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The Sellout, Part II

All this compromise did was pass the buck to another day, while allowing three extremist judges to be elevated to lifetime appointments on federal appeals courts.

"I think they did what the Senate very often does," said Ross K. Baker, a professor of political science at Rutgers University and a longtime student of the Senate. "They kicked the can down the road. They basically postponed a crisis and set up the predicate for another one in the future on the Supreme Court nomination."

Check the language of the compromise. Check Sen. Mike DeWine's statement, with which Lindsay Graham agreed:

Some of you who are looking at the language may wonder what some of the clauses mean. The understanding is – and we don’t think this will happen – but if an individual senator believes in the future that a filibuster is taking place under something that’s not extraordinary circumstances, we of course reserve the right to do what we could have done tomorrow which is to cast a yes vote for the constitutional option.

The Washington Post article linked above makes it clearer:

Republicans reserve the right, individually, to support the nuclear option if they believe Democrats are abusing the agreement. Democrats said the final language on that point is closer to what they had wanted. But at the news conference, DeWine explicitly said that if the agreement breaks down, Republicans in the group feel free to support the use of the nuclear option.

The presidential election is in November, 2008. Inauguration is January, 2009. If the Republicans win a majority in the Senate in 2006, they can re-launch the nuclear option in early 2007, and we're back to square one. If they win the nuclear option then, Bush is free to name Supreme Court justices for the duration of 2007 and all of 2008 - without a filibuster -- while we're stuck with Owen, Rogers Brown and Pryor and who knows who else on the appeals courts.

All this did was pass the buck to the next congress - yet Democrats are stuck with 3 judges we could have filibustered if we held out. Reid had 49 votes - I think he had the extra two and we would have defeated the nuclear option and Owen, Rogers Brown and Pryor. I think Frist knew it which is why he gave in. You don't think he leaned on the indecisives and made them tell him privately what they were going to do? You don't think they told him, "Don't do this, You can't count on me?"

I don't believe Arlen Specter or John Warner would have voted for the nuclear option. They have been Senators too long and the Senate as an institution is too engrained in them. They, and possibly a few others, care more about preserving their Senate Club than they do anything else. They would not have voted for a rule of order that would have bypassed Senate Rules and 200 years of Senate tradition.

Also, keep in mind, the compromise is is not a bill that passed the Senate, went on to the House, was signed by the President, and became law. This is a piece of paper signed by 14 Senators expressing their commitment to vote a certain way. 86 Senators were not a party to the agreement and are not bound by it. The Senate leaders, Frist and Reid, are not bound by it. Today, these 14 Senators banded together as an oligarchy, and agreed not to change the Senate rules, provided all 100 of them act in good faith. As soon as one believes another has not acted in good faith, he or she is free to re-launch the nuclear option.

I am reconsidering one conclusion from my earlier observation: While this is a win for Bush and the Federalist Society and Dobson, this might not be a win for Frist. Dobson's press release criticizing Frist came so soon after the announcement of the compromise, that I'm wondering whether Dobson had already abandoned Frist - probably at the moment it became clear Frist couldn't muster the 51 votes, even with Cheney. Frist may be toast in terms of future aspirations, but from a practical standpoint, it makes no difference. Dobson and the radical right fringe will find another errand boy and the move towards a theocracy will continue.

One more thing: This played out in almost the exact scenario I warned against last week, so why am I so surprised and disappointed? After outlining the terms of the compromise, I said,

Centrism never works, in my opinion. It's like a divorce settlement. Afterwards, both sides felt they gave too much. And there's not even a judge to blame.

Sometimes it's better to just roll the dice. So everyone, whichever side you are on, call your senators and tell them, No Retreat, No Surrender.

Maybe activism doesn't work either. Many on both the right and the left today feel betrayed. It seems like we all got tooled. By 14 centrists, no less.

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    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#35)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:52:55 PM EST
    It's going down the toilet, PPJ...and only the neocons haven't admitted it yet...big surprise...

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#36)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:52:56 PM EST
    Jim, please shut down the bbq stand for a year and sign on to drive trucks or change tires or something in Iraq. They desperately need your keen intellect and optimism. If you true believers don't get over there and make it happen, you are setting up the failure of this magnificent war. You are letting this war be lost by sitting back here when your obvious enthusiasm is so badly needed in the fledgling democracy. I will chip in on your plane ticket. Please go and bring back victory.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#37)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:52:56 PM EST
    Blagh's in for a sawbuck...

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#38)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:52:56 PM EST
    I'm in for a sawbuck too. BTW, There are no conventional battles in this type of war. Lets see, we've been there 2 years and can't secure the 6 mile road to the airport. We can't keep Baghdad clear of insurgents or safe for its citizens. We can't keep member os the government from being killed. I'm starting to think that Bush doesn't give a crap. I beginning to think that what he is going to try is bring all the troops onto a few highly fortified bases sit back and watch the Iraqis kill each other and then fight who ever is left for the oil.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#39)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:52:56 PM EST
    “If you true believers don't get over there and make it happen, you are setting up the failure of this magnificent war.” I’ll extend the same offer to all you gits who bellyached about the US’s failure in Somalia while proposing intervention in Darfur. I have two shotguns and one handgun that I will lend out for your term in the region. Now be honest, the TL archives are full of you folks challenging the pro Iraq invasion folks to step up. Do I have any takers or are you all finally going to put this hypocritical hackneyed rhetoric out of my misery?

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#40)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:52:56 PM EST
    Shorter Pigwiggle, If you like to eat apples so much why don't you like oranges too you hypocrites.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#41)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:52:56 PM EST
    This has gotten far of field; I’ll save my retort for an open thread. But Che, give this a bit more thought. Really, how would you be unique in asking others to die for your pet cause?

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#29)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:54:18 PM EST
    Blag - Still making things up, I see, since I didn't make a c0omment about Canada. As for war making, well, we're great at defeating armies, but since we often fight with one arm tied behind our back, smallish groups give us fits. Especially when they are being encouraged by what they hear from our Left. But don't demean your own. I've don't joint ops with them, and they always carried their own water. et al - The compromise was between 7 Repubs, and not the Senate leadership. So the nuclear option is still on the table, and to keep it off you must now satisfy five Repub Senators. A task that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Especially when they realize just how badly they have screwed up.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#30)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:54:18 PM EST
    “And your President never did get around to thanking us for taking in thousands of stranded American fliers on 9/11...” Well, let me be the first. To all those vested in the Canadian hospitality business, thanks for accepting all those US dollars. Sheesh … Can I get a plug for Philip Morris and Kraft for all the food and smokes that were sent to those wayward folks as well? Sound like the beginning of a bad joke, “how do you get an American to stay for a week in Canada?”

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#31)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:54:18 PM EST
    So the war is going badly and its the Left's fault. PPJ you have no shame. meanwhile the military in Iraq are blaming it on a lack of boots on the ground. So predictatble so pathetic

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#32)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:54:18 PM EST
    SD - No, the war isn't going badly, and no the war isn't the Left's fault. But, it is a fact that is as obvious as a zit on a teenagers nose on prom night that the terrorists now understand they can only win through a political settlement, and they have adapted the Vietnam model, depending on you to do your part. Can they count on you?

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#33)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:54:18 PM EST
    Yes the war is going very badly see the article up further.
    now understand they can only win through a political settlement
    This is not news, this has always been the plan. If the US loses it will be for the simple reason there were not enough troops committed to the fight and because they have acted as colonial occupiers and have alienated most moderates with their over the top methods that even the British think are self-defeating.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#34)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:54:25 PM EST
    SD - Within wars there are battles and events. I know you want to believe that the war`is going badly, but using "events" is not an accurate or logiocal measurement.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#1)
    by The Heretik on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:55:42 PM EST
    As I listened to the Senators speaking live (the screen said they were live so I must believe it), the new phrase that stuck out was this good agreement. A self congratulation ans self loathing mixed with a tiredness leaves us with Janice Rogers Brown on the bench, with Priscilla Owens on the bench to rule for life or more likely for death or for property. Harry Reid says he can finally sleep. Others will not sleep so easliy.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#2)
    by Andreas on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:55:42 PM EST
    TL wrote: "Maybe activism doesn't work either." If "activism" means "calling Democratic senators" then certainly that does not work--it is a waste of time. It is urgent to draw political conclusions from the behavior of of the Democratic Party during the last years. It is necessary to build a party representing the working class against both parties of the oligarchy.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:55:42 PM EST
    "It is necessary to build a party representing the working class against both parties of the oligarchy." No. It is necessary to build an effective second party that represents the interests of Americans. No one wants to see the Senate destroyed. Therefore, the Democrats should have called Frist's bluff. Instead of a nuclear option, we'll have death by a thousand cuts with the result the same: a neutered Congress.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#4)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:55:42 PM EST
    If you do not like what the Senate did, you show push for the repealing of the 17th amendment. Originally Senators were appointed by the states to be the states representatives in the federal gov't. The 17th Amendment changed that. By repealing the 17th amendment, the states once again would have some say in DC and it would put a halt to the unfunded mandates from the feds. And this episode may have never happened.

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#5)
    by MikeDitto on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:55:42 PM EST
    How would repealing the 17th amendment have affected this at all? The state legislatures are elected via the same money machine that elects the Senate under the current system. And the 17th amendment was passed, in part, because some state legislatures were failing to appoint senators at all. How would having no representation be better than having representation elected by popular vote?

    Re: The Sellout, Part II (none / 0) (#6)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:55:42 PM EST
    It is necessary to build an effective second party that represents the interests of Americans.
    Nice words but how? The defining moment for me was the vote for the bakruptcy bill where many Dems rolled over for the big corps. When the Dems called me for my annual doanation I told