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Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment

By Jeralyn, Section Other Politics
Posted on Wed Jul 13, 2005 at 08:09:18 AM EST
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Another executive fiat is on the way....the Washington Post reports that John Bolton will accept a recess appointment.

"The president has made his selection, and the president is asking the Senate to confirm the selection, and if the Senate refuses to do that, then most assuredly [Bush] will make a recess appointment."

Just another indicator of Bush's lack of respect for the legislative branch. Welcome to the Monarchy.

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    Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment | 23 comments (23 topical)
    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    you mean the same procedure that has been used for years by multiple presidents. the Republic trembles. the drama queenism of the left again shows its face.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#2)
    by Richard Aubrey on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Are all recess appointments bad? Or only those of President Bush?

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#3)
    by swingvote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Which is worse in the eyes of TalkLeft: giving a recess appointment to someone the Senate refuses to even grant a vote to (such a John Bolton), or naming as "acting" someone the Senate rejected (as in Bill Lan Lee)? Recess appointments were a good idea when they were written into the Constitution because back then the Senate was a real part-time job, Senators were actually expected to spend a good bit of their time in their home states even when they weren't running for re-election, and getting back to DC to vote on a nominee could take a long time for some Senators, denying the administration the ability to fill important positions. Today, the recess appointment is used when the Senate refuses to do its job, even though it is in town and even though they have the time to do less important things like give themselves another pay raise or fund another building project in WV. I'm not thrilled about this practice, but if it causes even just a few of these self-appointed ceasars to wake up, I can live with it. Bolton is far from the worst choice Bush could make; he could have chosen Albright.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    RA - Ed, I would argue that the left thinks Bolton is worthy of blocking based on his statement about the validity and efficacy of the UN. I think Bush should use a recess appointment here. The administration and the right in general have accused the UN of being ineffective and believe that the US needs someone in the position who will push the envelope so to speak. I don't care for Bolton or his mgmt style, but I believe the President believes Bolton will make a difference. I don't believe the UN has been all that effective lately and would prefer to see someone with a more diplomatic toughness as opposed to a curt style. I support the recess appointment because it is his right to do so, but I would also vote against Bolton were I given the opportunity.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#5)
    by jarober on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    So no Democratic President has ever, or will ever, make a recess appointment?

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#6)
    by theologicus on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Welcome to the Monarchy. Yes. Just one more sign of creeping authoritarianism. "A republic if you can keep it" is looking more and more iffy by the day.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Obviously recess appointments have been made before. They are (for democrats and republicans) an abuse of power, but obviously they have happened. What makes this one different is that there has NEVER been a recess appointment of anywhere near as high ranking of a position. If for no other reason, I don't think he should do it because it will make it tougher for Bolton to do his job because it is known that he goes without the support of the legislature.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#8)
    by ras on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Those who refuse to hold votes should not complain about the lack of one, eh?

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#9)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    J.B. - I doubt if that band of crooks at the UN cares whether Bolton has support or not. JL - Gasp. We`agree.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#10)
    by Richard Aubrey on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    JL. Measured and reasonable. Good post.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    Bush violated the UN charter (aka US law) with his illegal invasion for profit and airbases. Not just a resolution or some minor rule -- the very thing that the UN was formed to prevent. He wants a thug in the chair to further damage that institution. And he, sob, has to circumvent the opinion of the people and their Congress to get him in. "Those who refuse to hold votes." Those who can't get a fair election demand our rights. Pack the Senate through stolen elections, and then complain when the most extreme and ruthless thug can't get a vote. Boohoo. I hope the other delegates throw tomatoes.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#12)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    Paul in LA:
    UN charter (aka US law)
    I hope they are not one and the same (yet).

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    Paul in LA: It couldn't be damaged worse than it already is under its own power. this attachment to such a ugly institution is puzzling.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    Violating the UN Charter is to violate the UN treaty, which is US law. Ed, screw you and your pals. The UN was formed because we can no longer survive our technology if we don't control wars of aggression. The cowboys want no constraint on their acts. That has nothing to do with America, and everything to do with fascism, treason, oligarchy, and lies. Spit at the UN, and it bounces back on your 'party' -- you thugs.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#15)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    J.B. - I doubt if that band of crooks at the UN cares whether Bolton has support or not.
    They are no worse that the crooks in Iraq, i.e. Bremer, who "lost" $8.8Billion

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#16)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    Well Bush's other option is to wait for another 9/11 and then rush him through a vote like he did with the terrorist John "Death Squad" Negroponte. Bolton is the perfect guy for what we are about these days. And this is the perfect way to install him. No more putting makeup on a pig...let the world see what we're about and just how low we've sunk.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    as the wise man of the world that you are, you must be aware of the nobility of the other nations at the UN. the membership of the human rights commission, the "Zionism is Racism" proclamations, the first/third world kleptocracies/dictators club, one could go on and on. what perfume do you put on that rotting collection to make it smell like roses to you?

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#18)
    by jimcee on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    Maybe I'm mistaken but I'm sure the Chinese, the Sudan and just about everyone that is an UN ambassador is the worst of the worst from the scumbag ruling class. Perhaps Castro has sent a humanitarian? Yeah right. Send Bolton there for one reason, if you're going to offend people that continence child rape, mass murder in Bosnia, the oil for food scam, the gassing of Kurds and genocide in Rwanda as well as appointing the Sudan, Cuba and Lybia as Human Rights Commission representatives it would seem pretty hard to justify that John Bolton is a poor choice. Unless of course your think that child rape, mass murder/genocide and political oppression are the sterling standards of world governance. If Bolton opposes these things then why do you oppose Bolton? Politics makes very strange bedfellows IMHO.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#19)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    The issue of the UN is one thing. The issue of how Bush is circumventing the legislature to appoint an ambassador is another.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#20)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    Please name one other president that appointed a UN Ambassador over the Senate's wishes. Oh, and provide links. On a general note; I'm not sure why some folks on this site object to providing links for their assertions, but asking for links is not a rhetorical tactic, it is merely asking for proof, or grounds, for your opinions.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#21)
    by jimcee on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    Sailor, I use no links because I assume anyone that would reply to my posts has at least a factual grasp on the subject at hand. My mistake, sorry and as far as links are concerned, I can barely type. I am tired of the Left hoisting the bloody shirt while trying to replicate some sort '60's redux. I would be happy to hear some good news from the Left but I'm afraid there isn't much happiness to be reported right now. Being negative is a hard sell; nothing sells worse than no and it is time for the Dems to figure this out. Just be positive afterall it has worked in the past.

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#22)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    jimcee, my comment about providing links was not directed at you, it was a general complaint about folks who assert facts w/o documentation. I have enough infirmities that I use software to compensate for I would never criticise another for similar shortcomings, but I would suggest it is easier to cut and paste than to type. I would also suggest that "anyone that would reply to my posts has at least a factual grasp on the subject at hand" is misguided because the 'facts' are going to be represented much differently on different media outlets, e.g. Fox News, LAT, NYT, NY Post, NRO ... etc.) As for being 'positive', hey, I'm happy I'm not sick (I can't afford health insurance), I'm happy I'm over 45 (because I can't be called up again), I'm happy I ... well shucks tinkerbell, I just can't clap louder. (sorry, jimcee, but the line was too funny to resist;-)

    Re: Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    what perfume do you put on that rotting collection to make it smell like roses to you?
    Ed, nowhere do I say that the UN is full of roses...I just said we were sending one more rotten gas bag there. I didn't think Negroponte could ever be matched, but I forgot who was making the choices. It always gets worse with these guys. Now go write a nasty letter to Chuck Hagel and leave me alone.
    but I'm afraid there isn't much happiness to be reported right now.
    jimcee, come on...don't blame the messenger for the Neocon's taking this country on a nosedive into the compost.

    Bush May Give Bolton a Recess Appointment | 23 comments (23 topical)