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CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder

By Jeralyn, Section Terror Detainees
Posted on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:30:14 PM EST
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Meet the Scorpions. They interrogate you, and then you die. The Washington Post has reviewed the declassified documents in the case of murdered detainee Iraqi General Abid Hamed Mowhoush.

When Army efforts produced nothing useful, detainees would be handed over to members of Operational Detachment Alpha 531, soldiers with the 5th Special Forces Group, the CIA or a combination of the three. "The personnel were dressed in civilian clothes and wore balaclavas to hide their identity," according to a Jan. 18, 2004, report for the commander of the 82nd Airborne Division.

If they did not get what they wanted, the interrogators would deliver the detainees to a small team of the CIA-sponsored Iraqi paramilitary squads, code-named Scorpions, according to a military source familiar with the operation. The Jan. 18 memo indicates that it was "likely that indigenous personnel in the employ of the CIA interrogated MG Mowhoush."

Then the fun began.

On Nov. 24, the CIA and one of its four-man Scorpion units interrogated Mowhoush, according to investigative records.

When he didn't answer or provided an answer that they didn't like, at first [redacted] would slap Mowhoush, and then after a few slaps, it turned into punches," Ryan testified. "And then from punches, it turned into [redacted] using a piece of hose." "The indig were hitting the detainee with fists, a club and a length of rubber hose," according to classified investigative records.

It got worse, and then Mowhoush was dead.

The CIA has tried hard to conceal the existence of the Scorpions. CIA classification officials have monitored pretrial hearings in the case and have urged the court to close much of the hearing on national security grounds. Redacted transcripts were released only after lawyers for the Denver Post challenged the rulings.

A lawyer for one of the soldiers charged with murder says,

"The interrogation techniques were known and were approved of by the upper echelons of command of the 3rd ACR," Cassara said in a news conference. "They believed, and still do, that they were appropriate and proper."

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    • CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder | 9 comments (9 topical)
    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#1)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    "And then from punches, it turned into [redacted] using a piece of hose."
    Turned into... fratboy pranks? Surely that couldn't have been the T-word...

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    Eagerly awaiting the "this wasn't torture/these guys deserved it/not as bad as some countries" spin...

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#3)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    Barbaric.

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#4)
    by Darryl Pearce on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    We've become what we feared.

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#5)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    Darryl, We've perfected what we feared. Same story, different country.

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#6)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    [off topic, I'll be doing a thread on it.]

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#7)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:54 PM EST
    But we condem the practice of torture to various dictators, Uzbekistan most recently. We do not torture people, or POWs, we only torture enemy combatants who were people, but have lost their humanbeing status because they are so bad. No wonder three Military prosecutors have refused to be involved with the SC sanctioned kangaroo tribunals.

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:55 PM EST
    The interrogation techniques were known and were approved of by the upper echelons of command of the 3rd ACR
    Yep...looks like there were a "few bad apples" there at the upper echelons. Hey, none of the torture apologists have shown up on this thread yet...could it be that even they have reached their limit of credulity? Nah, more like they haven't received their talking points yet.

    Re: CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder (none / 0) (#9)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:55 PM EST
    I have not researched this quote but I like the sound of it when compared to our times: "everything Hitler did in Germany was legal there'. We seem to be rewriting the laws these days in odrer to protect our Freedom. I wonder if that was Hitler' spin as well.

    CIA Unit Involved in Detainee's Murder | 9 comments (9 topical)