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By Last Night in Little Rock, Section Huricanes Katrina and Rita
Posted on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 09:12:04 PM EST
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by Last Night in Little Rock

The lunatic fringe of all religions have stated that New Orleans is being punished for being "sin city"--Christians, the Christian Taliban, and Muslims alike. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell thankfully shut up. Remember their idiocies after 9/11, as recounted here?

During a discussion about whether this crisis might bring revival to America, Jerry Falwell said God may have allowed what the nation deserved because of moral decay and said Americans should have an attitude of repentance before God and asking for God's protection. He specifically listed the ACLU, abortionists, feminists, gays, and the People For the American way as sharing in the blame. Pat Robertson responded with agreement.

So, Christian Taliban: Who Would Jesus let Drown?

As for the efforts to save people instead of playing politics with lives delaying relief efforts, What Would Jesus Do?

You helped elect this moron President. Don't find a religious justification to mask his monumental stupidity. If God wanted to punish gays, San Francisco would have been leveled by an earthquake long ago.

What Would Jesus Do? I think he would kick George Bush's a*s.

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    WWJD? | 28 comments (28 topical)
    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:30 PM EST
    On the Daily Show Jon Stewart asked; why did Bush designate September 16th as a day of prayer for the hurricane victims, when the hurricane was an "act of God"?

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:30 PM EST
    Bush was just handed the job of cleaning up Nagging Mayor and Blank Stare Blanco's mess. After all, if they were such civil geniuses and logistical wonders, not one person would have been left behind. Blanco would have given police and National Guardsmen orders to "shoot to kill" looters, shown some real leadership by mobilizing them BEFORE Katrina moved inland, and turned over control of the Guard to the Feds when things got too heavy for her to handle. Nagin showed NO leadership and NO plan. How many Metro Transit Buses and New Orleans School Buses have we seen with water up to their roof tops, abandoned and unutilized. Could not he have used these to evacuate his citizens? At the very least he could have moved the empty buses further inland as a 'hedge bet.' Then if nothing happened, have them driven them back home (and in the event of what DID happen, yes, use them to help evacuate.) You can tell that the people who screwed up BIG TIME in this whole mess are Liberal DEMOCRATS, when the DNC blows the dust off of Leon Panetta and parades him around the News Networks to whine - now is not the time for finger pointing, mistakes were made on both sides, Republicans and Democrats alike need to stop playing the blame game- blah, blah, blah. Well Leon, that's probaly good advice for your party. One way not to LOSE the game is to QUIT before the final score (or all the facts) are tallied. But, in the end, You still Can't Handle the Truth. Next Week; Why I hate Republicans Too.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    RETRACTION; Will not be writing ANY posts for this site next week. NOT worth it! No one with any brains blogs on to this site. I'm meltinggggg,,,.........

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Pete Guither on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    Jon Stewart also noted that with a Supreme Court justice dying and an city of "sin" being destroyed, Pat Robertson had two of his prayers answered in one week.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#5)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    perhaps now god will call pat back home. one can only hope. who really cares what these twits say, about anything? after all, they profess belief in an invisible, magical, supernatural being, whose very existence can neither be proved or disproved. in other, less civilized times, we called people like this witches, and burned them at the stake. now, they get on prime time talk shows to spout their blather. i submit that this does not constitute progress. i am convinced it is the work of the "flying spaghetti monster", resulting from the refusal of NO's residents to convert to "pastafarianism", and recognize pesto sauce as the mystical blood of the "blessed monster"! but hey, that's just me.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Johnny on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    RETRACTION; Will not be writing ANY posts for this site next week. NOT worth it! No one with any brains blogs on to this site. I'm meltinggggg,,,.........
    Oh shucky darn! Another self righteous wrong winger declaring aleft wing blog not worthy of commenting upon! how painful! How we must all reel in pain over this persons withdrawal! Wow! My life has been turned uopside down by this statement! please UHTT come back and make this blog worth reading again... *snicker* The problme you have, along with all other wrong wingers, is that your boy Bush and his hand picked advisors dicked it up on this hurricane and still you find reasons to blame liberals. Good for you. The world needs more deluded wrong wingers-people like you make left-wingers look even better. You go on with your emppty thetoric about us... You are the one who is giving up in the face of incredible rhetoric... Not us. Cannot handle a little of the spin handed back to ya? Tough. Live with it. You are either with us or against us. If you are against us, you make the terrorists happy.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    Finally, a wingnut troll has a good idea. Don't slam the pixels on the way out.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    wing nut or not - does not the local government derserve at least some of the blame here?

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#9)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    Really, than why is it that the strip is one of the only things to survive the hurricane? Isn't that where all the debauchery happens? Maybe god really is a man and has the sense of directions that all men have and refused to stop the storm to ask for directions to the strip....

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    strange that no one mentions the rantings of RFK Jr. He posited that the hurricane veered to Mississippi to punish Haley Barbour(at least until the levees broke). should you feel shame at this ignorance or is only religious based ignorance actionable?

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#11)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    charley, care to post a link to this? apparently, his rantings were pretty quiet, since you seem to be the only one who heard them so far.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    cpinva:
    perhaps now god will call pat(robertson) back home. one can only hope. who really cares what these twits say, about anything? after all, they profess belief in an invisible, magical, supernatural being, whose very existence can neither be proved or disproved.
    To paraphrase George Carlin: Sooooo.... let me get this clear. You've got an invisible man, who lives in the sky! And, he's got a list of ten things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any one of them, he'll make you burn, and scream, and writhe in unbearable, horrible pain, and suffer for eternity for doing it. But he "loves" you! :) And he has a problem managing his finances, BTW - he always wants just a "little" more from you... Pat would do well to hope and pray this god he says he believes in, doesn't exist.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#13)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    First youcanthandle says
    One way not to LOSE the game is to QUIT before the final score (or all the facts) are tallied. But, in the end, You still Can't Handle the Truth.
    Then he says
    RETRACTION; Will not be writing ANY posts for this site next week. NOT worth it! No one with any brains blogs on to this site. I'm meltinggggg,,,.........
    Does anyone else find that a little bit ironic?

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#14)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    Sort of a "Screw you guys, I'm going home" argument if you ask me.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#15)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    You know, I too am a Christian, and I wonder how a guy gets away with saying things like this. Who is he to judge? I think too many ministers in our day take things from the Bible to relate it to something else and forget about another part of the Bible. The Good Book is not to be taken one bit and piece at a time as it relates to one thing. It is to be taken as a whole to reflect a philosophy of life. These guys saying that God is punishing NO are forgetting about the part of scripture that says not to tell your neighbor to get a slinter out of his eye when you have a log in yours. ie, nobody is perfect except for God, so only God can judge. The Christian philosophy also holds that only God knows His plans. To speculate at God's plans or will can be far too destructive for a measely minister. That's what we have here.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    I did a simple cut and paste. You can do your own research re the Huffington Post. It was all over the news and not very quiet-how could you have missed it except for your tunnel vision: "In 1998, Republican icon Pat Robertson warned that hurricanes were likely to hit communities that offended God. Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast." You guys are a joke.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:31 PM EST
    peacrevol - excellent post. as with any cultural/social/religious group, we must try to avoid broad generalizations because of the mis-guided comments of a few.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#18)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:32 PM EST
    Jesus drank a lot of wine and hung out with a hooker, sounds to me like NO would be his kind of town.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#19)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:32 PM EST
    Thanks LCA, but I think the problem gets worse when these guys that have been on TV for years and have gained some trust, even among the regular Christians, start saying all sorts of rediculous things. It was easy when it was branch dividians at Waco, or mass suicides, or anything else that was clearly an extremist cult. These guys that say things like that should be taken off of TV and never listened to again. With me, they have lost all credibility. I just hope people will realize that these guys are, at best, on the fringe of the true philosophies that the Christians hold.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#20)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:32 PM EST
    mr charlie means that the RFKjr remark is being taken out of context and spread all over the rw echo chamber. "He posited that the hurricane veered to Mississippi to punish Haley Barbour" Is an absolute lie. RFKjr's well reasoned post is that barbour was behind the gutting of CO2 caps and Kyoto and that is what is causing more frequent and stronger hurricanes. Just like Trent Lott stopped the ACE from preserving barrier islands and the resulting storm surge is what took his house out. He supports it with a MIT paper I referred to yesterday. Sorry charlie!

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:32 PM EST
    when will you ever learn you can't contort yourself out of your words. RFK(D-Idiot) is pretty straightforward-God pushed the hurricane into Mississippi to punish Barbour. Just as nutty as anything put forward by any old reverend. Sorry sailor, he's your imbecile, you can't blame a church for him.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#22)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:32 PM EST
    mr charlie, you lie, and are irony impaired.
    Well, the science is clear. This month, a study published in the journal Nature by a renowned MIT climatologist linked the increasing prevalence of destructive hurricanes to human-induced global warming.

    Now we are all learning what it’s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged. Our destructive addiction has given us a catastrophic war in the Middle East and--now--Katrina is giving our nation a glimpse of the climate chaos we are bequeathing our children.
    As the game is played in echoland, the rethugs ignore the whole article and distort ONE line for partisan purposes
    Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast.
    Once again the holier than thou crowd has the set maggot ridden corpse of irony spinning. Your personal attacks and repeated rnc ranting points are quite tiresome. Perhaps if you believed in a real god you wouldn't be so quick to condemn others!

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#23)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:33 PM EST
    I'm only quick to condemn idiots, not align myself with them like, for instance, you. I guess he spoke too soon about sparing NO to punish Haley Barbour. Wear him like a millstone.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#24)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:33 PM EST
    When the water rises, the rats start swimming.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#25)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:33 PM EST
    WWJD? I'll tell you what I think Jesus would do. He'd go in there and try to save some lives, not blame anyone, and put those in charge that can get the job done most efficiently. He would not blame those who stuck around for the problems that their unwillingness to leave may have caused for anyone. He would not say that the hurricane was sent as a punishment of any sorts. He would give help and not ask for, or expect, anything in return. He would let God's will be carried out and save who God allows him to save. He would roll up his sleaves and not leave until the job was finished. He would forgive everyone who did something wrong. Thats what I think Jesus would do.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:33 PM EST
    come on, that's very naive. you know jesus would blame bush and sport a "Vote Democrat" bumper sticker on his hybrid.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#27)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:33 PM EST
    Charley: Stop lying.

    Re: WWJD? (none / 0) (#28)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:36 PM EST
    Robertson doesn't have to speak now. His prayers have been answered. And I think Charley's about to be "evacuated".

    WWJD? | 28 comments (28 topical)