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A Strange Kind of Freedom

By TChris, Section Civil Liberties
Posted on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 03:00:36 PM EST
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A strange kind of freedom will be celebrated in the nation's capitol tomorrow. If you try to join the celebration, you'll be arrested.

A "Freedom Walk" on Sunday in honor of the military, from the Pentagon to the Washington Mall, is open only to those pre-registered - and the U.S. Park Police has warned that it will arrest anyone who shows up without a pass.

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    A Strange Kind of Freedom | 19 comments (19 topical)
    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:37 PM EST
    I think you can see a trend here, In mindset I mean. Didn't NOLA have their own Freedom Walk/drive of sorts! but this the FEMA fence kept the poor trapped in the superdome, Convention Center and their flooded homes.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#2)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:37 PM EST
    ED:
    I think you can see a trend here, In mindset I mean.
    There is no difference at all between this and the mindset that resulted in Saddam Hussein being elected President of Iraq with , what was it, 99% of the vote? There just ain't no stoppin' progress now, is there!

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:37 PM EST
    I heard the New theme for the Freedom trot is... "We'll have Freedom in this Country if we have to throw everyone who disagrees with us in jail". Heil, What's his name!

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#4)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:37 PM EST
    Are any of our wingnuts going? Don't they love freedom?

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#5)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:37 PM EST
    See? This is what I was talking about a couple of months ago when Hume was righteously belching something about how horrible it is the Chinese gov't doesn't allow the words "freedom" or "human rights" to be uttered. Ahhh, how much the Chinese could learn from this government, if only they were paying attention.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:37 PM EST
    Oh since were talking about Marching. Is everyone aware of the march on washington on Sept 24, 05. I just had my Wheelchair all tuned and greased, got my Hotel room booked from the 23rd thru the 26th. It will be over thirty five years since the last time I Protested the War! My wife is afraid for my health but Hell, if I do have to kick the bucket I'd sure like to be close to the Vietnam Memorial and my fallen brothers. I'd be dying protesting to end this war and bring my fellow soldiers home and most of all for my Country, wouldn't I. PPJ, No comments please.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#7)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:38 PM EST
    ED: It will be over thirty five years since the last time I Protested the War! Those protests, the whole anti-war movement 35 years ago, lifted the entire society ED... Go, man!

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#8)
    by aw on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:38 PM EST
    Put in fashion terms: George Bush. The new Saddam.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#9)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:38 PM EST
    if i understand this correctly, it amounts to just another bush re-election campaign event, or "town meeting", where no one in the town is actually allowed to attend, unless they sign an oath of fealty to bush and the republicans. is it possible for this administration to get any more orwellian?

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:38 PM EST
    Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#11)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:39 PM EST
    This "Freedom Walk" is just more theatre of the absurd. It's nothing short of bizarre.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#12)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:39 PM EST
    I wonder if the marchers appreciate the irony of having to be so restricted to express their love of americas freedom. Perhaps they would say 'Freedom is tough to achieve, in order to gain it one must give up quite a lot.' WAPO's headline gets it right: Tight Constraints on Pentagon's Freedom Walk

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#13)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:39 PM EST
    “A "Freedom Walk" on Sunday in honor of the military,”
    It is actually a memorial walk starting at the pentagon crash site for the folks that died in the attack on the pentagon (including the passengers of flight 77) four years ago today. And while I agree with you all that public property is open to public speech I just want you to picture how you would feel memorializing your dead family, friends, or colleagues while the Paul in LA’s of the world are right there, beat faced, insulting you and the memory of your loved ones. By the way, private (exclusive) use of public property has been around my entire life. Go protests a family reunion at a reserved park shelter or national park campsite; see how it works out for you. Excluding folks from public spaces is wrong period, not just when you don’t like the folks who benefit from the exclusion.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#14)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:39 PM EST
    Uh ... beet faced, rather.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#15)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:40 PM EST
    pw-you must have a special hot line to the DOD. The DOD has not portrayed the event as only a
    a memorial walk starting at the pentagon crash site for the folks that died in the attack on the pentagon (including the passengers of flight 77) four years ago today.
    A private memorial would do just fine for what you are pushing here, not an exclusive event on the Washington Mall. The event happened four years ago, your sappy analogy
    I just want you to picture how you would feel memorializing your dead family, friends...
    is not appropriate here. This is clearly a political event meant to counter the anti-war movement. The DOD has said:
    The event, the America Supports You Freedom Walk, is billed as a memorial to victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks and a show of support for those serving in the military, topped off with a concert by country singer Clint Black, known for his pro-troops anthem, "Iraq and Roll."
    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#16)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:40 PM EST
    Squeaky- I stand corrected.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:40 PM EST
    Squeaky & PW - It was much worse than that. Originally it was unabashedly a pro-war rally and march. The language has been toned down significantly.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#18)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:42 PM EST
    They arrested registerd folks who had t-shirts and signs they didn't like. Ahh, smells like freedom.

    Re: A Strange Kind of Freedom (none / 0) (#19)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:42 PM EST
    They arrested registerd folks who had t-shirts and signs they didn't like.
    It's the new American way. If they don't think like you, chain them up. If they don't live like you, chain them up.

    A Strange Kind of Freedom | 19 comments (19 topical)