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Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial

Jeffrey Toobin has an excellent new article in the New Yorker, available here, on how reporters are finding it increasingly difficult to protect their sources as a result of the frequency with which they are being subpoenaed in criminal investigations. He explains how Judge Tatel's decision in PlameGate is not the law of the land, or even in the federal courts in the District of Columbia, and that journalists fighting the subpoenas have little cause for optimism.

Toobin also discusses how defendants intend to fight back. Case in point: Scooter Libby.

As Libby's lawyers prepare for his trial, which will probably take place this year, they are expected to ask to see the journalists' notes, and they may subpoena other reporters who covered the investigation. At the trial, Libby's team will try to undermine the journalists' credibility by challenging them on everything from sloppy note-taking to evidence of bias. "This guy is on trial for his freedom, and it's not his job to be worried about the rights of the witnesses against him," a person close to Libby's defense team said. "There are going to be fights over access to the reporters' notes, their prior history and credibility, and their interviews with other people. By the time this trial is over, the press is going to regret that this case was ever brought."

The Washington Post reports today that U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan released previously sealed documents in the Valerie Plame Leaks case Friday, at the request of the New York Times, including one filed by Tim Russert's lawyers, in which they stated the Government expected that Russert's recollection of his conversation with Libby was apt to differ from Libby's recollection:

It "appears that Mr. Russert's testimony is sought solely because the Special Prosecutor believes that his recollection of a telephone conversation with an Executive Branch official is inconsistent with that official's statements," they wrote.

It looks like Russert may be Target Number One for Libby's lawyers.

[Update:] Tom Maguire found the court page link with the newly released Russert documents. Here's his take.

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    Re: Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial (none / 0) (#1)
    by swingvote on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 10:44:04 AM EST
    Sounds to me like nothing more than defense lawyers doing their job. As for Russert: If true, it raises an interesting question. Supposing that Russert does remember things differently than Libby, so what? Unless he has a recording of the conversation which can prove his version is correct, all we have is a he-said he-said argument. If Libby stands by his recollection, they can't convict him on the grounds that Tim Russert disagrees with him. It will take at least three people party to single conversation, with two of them agreeing on how it went, before it means anything.

    Re: Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 11:26:14 AM EST
    JP, in the Russert case, Russert has said that he called his bosses immediately afterwards and related what Libby had said to him on the phone. "You could look it up."

    Re: Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial (none / 0) (#3)
    by swingvote on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 11:45:20 AM EST
    DA, Meaningless, and you know it. If his bosses were not in the room with Russert and Libby, any recollections they might have are mere hearsay, provided to them by one of the two people whose version of truth is at issue. If I post this comment, and then call my mother and report a very different version of our short exchange here, it does not change what was really said just because she is willing to testify that I told her something else.

    Re: Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 12:06:44 PM EST
    There are going to be fights over access to the reporters’ notes, their prior history and credibility, and their interviews with other people. By the time this trial is over, the press is going to regret that this case was ever brought If reporters are more reluctant to let the congenital liars of the Bush admin go on "deep background", that's fine with me (disclaimer: same goes for anyone 'leaking' disinfo at the behest of his/her boss, Dem or Repub).

    Re: Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 12:22:07 PM EST
    You still haven't given a reason to doubt Russerts' account, or why he would lie about the call when telling his bosses about it. "Skepticism is a good watchdog if you know when to unleash it". Given that this isn't the only time in the case where someone's account differs with that of Libby's, I would postulate that using Occam's razor would suggest that: Either Libby lied on all those occasions or Libby told the truth, and everyone else just 'happened to lie' about their conversation. Conspiracy, or mere coincidence? You decide. Oh, and the bosses wouldn't be testifying as hearsay, because they would be testifing as to what Russert told them the conversation was about, and Russert is avaliable to confirm or deny what he told them. Hearsay is when you relate what person A told you about fact or person B, and person A isn't avaliable to question as to what transpired in the conversation.

    Re: Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial (none / 0) (#6)
    by swingvote on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 12:46:31 PM EST
    DA, I never said I was offering a reason to discount Russert. I merely pointed out that the defense lawyers will surely attempt to do so, and that when it comes down to it it's still just a case of who said what versus who remembers what. Hardly a slam dunk. As for the bosses: If the case was a question of what Russert had told them after the call, then they would be offering direct evidence. But if they are called to confirm his account of the exchange with Libby, all they can offer is what he told them. And even if he confirms that what they say he told them is what he told them, it's still hearsay. They have no idea whether Libby truly said anything Russert says he did and they cannot confirm it, nor will his confirmation that he told them such and such prove Libby actually said such and such. Now, as to why Russert would lie? Who said anything about lying? Tim Russert is a reporter with his own opinions. Just like everyone else on earth, his positions color his experiences as they are filtered through his own set of lenses (as it were). It's quite possible that Tim Russert heard, or thought he heard, things that Libby did not in fact say. This happens all the time. Get any two people together for a conversation, then separate them and ask them what was said and you will get two different accounts, which will depend on what the person thought was important, or what things which were said made them think of, or what struck them as odd coming from the other person. It still boils down to he-said/he-said and without a verbatim recording or an honest third party who was involved in the conversation, we really can't know the truth. Which doesn't mean that Libby isn't lying. It merely means that we can't prove he is just because Tim Russert remembers a conversation differently than Libby does. We'll need something more concrete.

    Re: Report: Libby to Attack Reporters At Trial (none / 0) (#7)
    by Tom Maguire on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 02:33:40 PM EST
    You still haven't given a reason to doubt Russerts' account, or why he would lie about the call when telling his bosses about it. I don't think his bosses will be any help - per the court docs, it seems to have been Libby's story (which matches Russert's) that Libby called to complain about a broadcast (probably Chris Matthews, as Jeralyn noted.) *IF* the mention of Wilson's wife ocurred, it would have been incidental, and Russert may very well have not mentioned that to his boss. Why would Libby lie? That is not so hard to answer. However, Russert's story is going to be a bit odd - again subject to an *IF*, if Andrea Mitchell meant it when she said that Plame's CIA association was known to reporters covering the intel community, then Russert may well have learned about that from her. Wilson was certainly in the news that week. And the Chris Matthews coverage was of the Niger trip. So Russert's story sounds as if it is something like (a) Libby called me out of the blue to complain about Chris Matthews' coverage of the Niger trip; (b) I knew there were rumors of a "Wilson and wife" connection; (c) Wilson was in the news and an object of curiousity in our newsroom; but for some reason, and contra Libby's testimony, I never raised the subject of Wilson's wife. Hey, Fitzgerald must have believed Russert, or he would not have put it in the indictment. And maybe a jury will buy it, too. But if a jury hangs up on reasonable doubt, can you blame them? Now, why would Russert lie to Fitzgerald? (a) He is insane. Doubtful. (b) He knows it will never be prosecuted, and he did not want to start down a very obvious path - if Russert told Libby about Wilson's wife, then Russert must have heard it from someone, yes? And if that someone was Mitchell, Russert can't even argue source protection - he has to give up her name. So if he tells the truth, Andrea will get a subpoena and a shot at jail time. Or, since editors often inquire about sources (and Russert is her boss), maybe he knows who Andrea heard it from - does he want to go to jail to protect her source? Who knows? But if I'm defending this case, I certainly offer the reasons for Russert to, uhh, misremember. And it reeks of reasonable doubt. FWIW - the other part of Libby's testimony, that he thought he was hearing about Plame for the first time from Russert, is still very hard to defend, so I think Fitzgerald gets him for something. Oh, I'm almost done - the other key witnesess will be Judy Miller and Matt Cooper. Do folks think Miller will be something other than a disaster for Fitzgerald? She had "Valerie Flame" and "Victoria Wilson" in her notebook, but can't remember where she got that. Compelling. And you can slip a razor blade betgween Cooper's version of their chat, and Libby's. Cooper - I told Libby about Plame, and he said something like, "Yeah, I heard that, too". Libby - Cooper told me about Plame and I said "Yeah, I heard that from other reporters, too". Hey, if Jeralyn wanted to move to DC and handle this, she would get Libby off on three or four counts, EZ.