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S.D. Passes Abortion Ban

Both houses of the South Dakota legislature have now passed a near-ban on abortion. This was done deliberately, in an effort to set-up a Roe v. Wade review by the Supreme Court.

South Dakota lawmakers approved a ban on nearly all abortions Friday, setting up a deliberate frontal assault on Roe v. Wade at a time when some activists see the U.S. Supreme Court as more willing than ever to overturn the 33-year-old decision. Republican Gov. Mike Rounds said he was inclined to sign the bill, which would make it a crime for doctors to perform an abortion unless it was necessary to save the woman's life. The measure would make no exception in cases of rape or incest.

....Under the measure, doctors could get up to five years in prison for performing an illegal abortion. The House passed the bill 50-18 on Friday, and the Senate approved it 23-12 earlier this week. If signed, it would become law July 1.

Reactions? Molly Saves the Day has decided to blog instructions for performing a dilation/curettage abortion. She will follow-up with directions for performing "vacuum aspiration for first-trimester pregnancies and inducing miscarriages for later ones." Dadahead wonders if this is dangerous to put on the internet.

Amanda at Pandagon thinks it's okay to publish this information. She comments on Dadahead:

...women will do it anyway. Just because the government cuts off their best option doesn't mean they should be forced to take the worst option. Without spreading the knowledge of how to do it, many women will resort to even more dangerous methods.

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  • Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#1)
    by aw on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 06:48:40 PM EST
    Ok boys. You proved my point in the previous abortion thread. All men talking to each other. A couple of glancing acknowledgements, but not a single one of you directly addressed a real live person who has actually had an abortion. It's like a mini SD statehouse here. Actual real live women are not relevant.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#2)
    by squeaky on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 06:53:21 PM EST
    Time to get Lieberman out of office. . NOW of CT is taking action. His lack of support for the Alito fillibuster shows that LIEBERMAN HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON WOMEN Support Ned Lamont

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#3)
    by squeaky on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 07:09:57 PM EST
    aw-Sorry to see you have a mini SD experience on the other thread. People who have no experience in things like to pontificate about abstractions, hence are often the most black and white and rigid thinkers around. Abstract thinking about real physical things like war and abortion yield very poor real life decisions. The people, mostly affluent men who dodged the draft and at best, discretely sent their women to another state for an abortion, have no right to make these kinds of decisions. Sadly many of these types have too much power and wield it like a cudgel. Time to vote them out.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 09:14:15 PM EST
    "Sadly many of these types have too much power and wield it like a cudgel. Time to vote them out."
    Too late.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#5)
    by squeaky on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 09:37:01 PM EST
    Tampa Student-I get your point but it is never too late.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 09:40:45 PM EST
    Seems to me like the aswer is to move out of South Dakota. What's that, you don't live there? Then STFU. The instructive parallel here is Kelo. In the past week I read that at least 40 legislatures were working on legislation that would render the Supreme's findings moot. The remaining ten will find themselves under the gun when it comes time for reelection. Abortion is about to end up where it was pre-Roe, in the state legislatures. My guess is that this will be a boon for the Democrats and a loss for the Republicans. If I'm right, then what are the Democrats whining about so loudly? Vr, Jimbo

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#7)
    by aw on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 09:50:55 PM EST
    Seems to me like the aswer is to move out of South Dakota. What's that, you don't live there? Then STFU.
    You didn't read the post. Try again. Welcome to the boys club.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#8)
    by aw on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 09:58:52 PM EST
    The instructive parallel here is Kelo.
    Keep digging. Property takings, bad. Eminent domain over women's uteruses to be used for the benefit of the community, not to mention business, good.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#9)
    by glanton on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 10:10:00 PM EST
    My guess is that this will be a boon for the Democrats and a loss for the Republicans. If I'm right, then what are the Democrats whining about so loudly?
    I love this new Talking Point. As if this were some little political skirmish the goal of which is to score points. When really its about adult human beings as property. And then the use of the word "whining," almost as priceless as the word "elitist" soming from these uber-rednecks whose definition of a constitutional right is a gun compound. Is it whining to be ashamed to be an American? If so, then whining is the place to be.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#10)
    by bad Jim on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 10:59:56 PM EST
    Firedoglake links someone calling this the Rapist Rights Bill. What a piece of work this is.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#11)
    by Johnny on Sat Feb 25, 2006 at 02:19:07 AM EST
    As a lifelong resident of SD, I can honestly say, this is effed up. Thank you John Thune, thank you Bush. F*cking f*ckers, everyone of them. The best part? This wasn't even put to a vote... Democracy is a godd*m sham, and anyone who lives in this country who truly believes they participate in a democracy needs a gun put down their throat and the trigger pulled, because they are beyond any kind of salvation from their deluded, warped sense of reality. Screw the republicans. And screw you, who think that this is the way to "enlightenment". Welcome to the 14th century.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Feb 25, 2006 at 08:10:07 AM EST
    Johnny sounds a little angry and I do think he is an eloquent example of how America will react if Roe Vs Wade is overturned. The right to individual privacy is something we Americans hold dear. A womans body is her own and these self rightous repiglicans will become an edangered species and good riddance. Mark my words.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#13)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Feb 25, 2006 at 10:48:54 AM EST
    Ok boys. You proved my point in the previous abortion thread. All men talking to each other. [...] Actual real live women are not relevant.
    A self-fulfilling prophecy, aw. If you have something to add, jump in and add it. Pouting in a corner until your demand for an invitation to join the conversation is met is the surest method I've ever seen to make yourself irrelevant. Don't take the above as an attack - while bluntly stated it is almost word for word what was told to me by an old boss of mine. And he was right. I would like to hear what you have to say.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#14)
    by glanton on Sat Feb 25, 2006 at 11:12:49 AM EST
    I would like to hear what you have to say.
    Sarcastic perhaps you mean well, but the myth of "we're all Americans let's discuss the issues" has been exploded; people with class will refuse to associate themselves with the likes of these degenerates in South Dakota. Eventually only the lowest of the low will be willing to even be seen at the polls. Now that the aforementioned degenerates have been given a meaningful voice, their degenerate brethren across the nation will get their chance as well. God bless Uhmerrikkah.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#15)
    by Johnny on Sat Feb 25, 2006 at 11:42:33 AM EST
    even be seen at the polls.
    This wasn't voted on. This is why representative forms of gov't are sometimes, well, bad... Oh well. If the new justices that shrub anointed are worth a salt, they will recognize the unconstitutionality of this new SD property law.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#16)
    by aw on Sat Feb 25, 2006 at 04:04:53 PM EST
    Pouting in a corner until your demand for an invitation to join the conversation is met is the surest method I've ever seen to make yourself irrelevant.
    I guess having actual experience with abortion wasn't relevant enough. Maybe if I had stripped it would have distracted the pompous asses away from their pontificating.
    I would like to hear what you have to say.
    Then why didn't you listen? Honestly, you guys just keep proving my point over and over and over.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#17)
    by aw on Sat Feb 25, 2006 at 05:03:20 PM EST
    that to fully protect the rights, interests,... of the mother...abortions in South Dakota should be prohibited. This just illustrates my point that women are irrelevant to the discussion whether it's here or in the statehouse. They are saying they are protecting a mothers rights and interests by prohibiting abortion, cause, you know, women don't know what's good for them.

    Re: S.D. Passes Abortion Ban (none / 0) (#18)
    by kdog on Sun Feb 26, 2006 at 07:04:44 AM EST
    It would be cool if a state senator somewhere proposed a bill banning male masturbation to protect the multi-trillions of unborn sperm murdered every year by deviant men...just to prove a point. "Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, god gets quite irate" -Monty Python Death to Puritanism!