home

More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing 16 Words Were False

Jason Leopold and Truthout have published a June 10 recently declassified State Department Memo (pdf) from Carl Ford to Marc Grossman on Joseph Wilson's trip to Niger. The New York Sun earlier today posted a copy of the July 7 version of the memo. Jason writes:

Monday's declassified State Department memo was obtained over the weekend by The New York Sun under a Freedom of Information Act request the newspaper filed last July. The Sun's story Monday morning, however, did not say anything about the State Department's warnings more than a week before Bush's State of the Union address about the bogus Niger documents.

The memo was drafted by Carl Ford Jr., the former head of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, in response to questions posed in June 2003 by I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, about a February 2002 fact-finding trip to Niger that former Ambassador Joseph Wilson undertook to investigate the uranium claims on behalf of the CIA.

Jason continues:

Eleven days before President Bush's January 28, 2003, State of the Union address in which he said that the US learned from British intelligence that Iraq had attempted to acquire uranium from Africa - an explosive claim that helped pave the way to war - the State Department told the CIA that the intelligence the uranium claims were based upon were forgeries, according to a newly declassified State Department memo.

The revelation of the warning from the closely guarded State Department memo is the first piece of hard evidence and the strongest to date that the Bush administration manipulated and ignored intelligence information in their zeal to win public support for invading Iraq.

Jason also recaps Cheney's statements that El Baradei was wrong when he said the Niger documents were forgeries.

"I think Mr. ElBaradei frankly is wrong," Cheney said. "[The IAEA] has consistently underestimated or missed what it was Saddam Hussein was doing. I don't have any reason to believe they're any more valid this time than they've been in the past." As it turns out, ElBaradei was correct, the declassified State Department memo now shows.

Read what Joe Wilson had to say on Meet the Press in May, 2004 about the White House being involved in ordering a workup on him in March, 2003, after he went on CNN to discuss the El Baradie report. Wilson said the workup, which also revealed information about Valerie and her employment, was shared with Karl Rove.

RUSSERT: You're saying that in March the White House started talking about you and your "CIA wife"?

AMB. WILSON: That's my understanding from not just that one particular source but corroborated by other sources and offered actually by other sources from different walks of life, that after I appeared on CNN and said I thought the government knew more about this Niger business than was letting on, there was this meeting at which it was decided to run an intelligence collection operation against me, which led to the learning of my wife's identity and her employment.

....RUSSERT: So you're saying as early as March the information about your wife being a CIA operative was being distributed by the White House?

AMB. JOSEPH WILSON: That's the information I have. That also would explain how Mr. Novak got information so quickly, how to--a decision was made for two people to call six journalists and leak the information within a couple of days. And it also explains how Cliff May, who wrote for the National Review online, suggested in a matter of days after my article appeared and a leak appeared, that it was widely known in Washington that my wife worked for the CIA. It was not widely known. None of my friends, for example, knew it. So it's hard to believe that it was widely known unless somebody else put that story out.

Also check out this June, 2003 Knights Ridder article saying Cheney had been provided debunking information in March, 2002.

Three senior administration officials said Vice President Dick Cheney and some officials on the National Security Council staff and at the Pentagon ignored the CIA's reservations and argued that the president and others should include the allegation in their case against Saddam.

The claim later turned out to be based on crude forgeries that an African diplomat had sold to Italian intelligence officials. The revelation of the CIA warning is the strongest evidence to date that pro-war administration officials manipulated, exaggerated or ignored intelligence information in their eagerness to make the case for invading Iraq.

Related post here

< Defense ConfirmsTwo Sealed Indictments in Duke Lacrosse Case | Smile For the Camera >
  • The Online Magazine with Liberal coverage of crime-related political and injustice news

  • Contribute To TalkLeft


  • Display: Sort:
    Jeralyn -- Mahalo nui loa for keeping us up-dated on this stuff. Joe Wilson's plight deserves serious attention, especially since it aligns so closely with the interests of the State of the Nation and the latest attempt by the Bush Felons to repeat the Iraq monstrosity in Iran. ("Thanks a lot")

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#2)
    by squeaky on Mon Apr 17, 2006 at 07:31:45 PM EST
    We still have no memo that mentions Valerie Plame. The Sun's memo calls her Valerie Wilson. Where is the one that went on the Air Force One trip? She was named as Plame in that report. Why would they redact it now?

    Does any one remember why the Kerry Campaign droppred Joe Wilson like a hot potato? Could it have had something to do with the fact that what he told the CIA and what he told the press didn't match? And what did he tell the CIA? That it was likely that Saddam was shopping for uranium in Niger - No deal was made. I wouldn't hitch my star to Joe. He will drag you into the mud. Be like the Rs with the Meyers nomination. Attack the unqualified. It makes your case stronger. Probably what that means to you is "go after Lieberman".

    Does any one remember why the Kerry Campaign droppred Joe Wilson like a hot potato? We don't remember it because it didn't happen. Wilson campaigned for Kerry in Phoenix, AZ in Oct., 2004.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#5)
    by ding7777 on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 07:14:36 AM EST
    And what did he tell the CIA? That it was likely that Saddam was shopping for uranium in Niger - No deal was made.
    What Wilson reported was that in 1999 (yes, a whole 3 years previously) the former Niger prime minister said that the Iraqi trade delegation expressed an interest in "expanding commercial relations." Wilson also reported that former Niger prime minister said yellowcake was NOT discussed. From this, the Republican spin is that Saddam was currently (2002) interested in aquiring uranium from Niger. Go figure!

    Can anyone tell me exactly what Wilson did to "investigate"?

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#7)
    by squeaky on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 07:42:30 AM EST
    JRT-
    Can anyone tell me exactly what Wilson did to "investigate"?
    We could, but it would be a waste of our time.


    I'll take that as a no. I am still zero for forever on getting a straight answer from you leftists.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#9)
    by squeaky on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 08:22:26 AM EST
    JRT-What are you waiting for a Federal Research Grant or something. Ever heard of google? You guys are utterly dishonest, and you want others to do your work for you.

    I have Googled it and I have asked people such as yourself and I have come up with nothing. All I can tell is that he asked some people if Iraq tried to buy yellowcake. I find it ridiculous that a guy like Wilson could have possibly come up with any answers in Niger. I am very open to any explanations that would show otherwise. I don't think you can do it Squeaky.

    Nice try, jrt. Prove that he did try to buy it. You can't. You couldn't then. You can't now. You can go now. Show yourself out. Use the servant's entrance.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#12)
    by aw on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 08:42:36 AM EST
    I don't think anyone can do it for you, JRT. You can't handle the truth, so you won't.

    Do you have any idea how juvenile your responses are? I can't prove that he tried to buy yellowcake, but I didn't claim that I could. I am trying to get a simple explanation of what Wilson did to investigate, but all you have is insults. Is anyone capable of a reasonable discussion?

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 08:57:50 AM EST
    JRT-
    I don't think you can do it Squeaky.
    No, I can't do it for you, but you can do it on your own. Here are a question to get you started: Do you know Josph Wilson's work history before the event you are asking about?

    Yes- I know that Wilson was with the State Department in Africa, which gives him a better chance than most of extracting information, but I still don't believe that he would have been able to reach into the underworld of African society to uncover an attempt to purchase yellowcake.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 09:18:25 AM EST
    JRT- Good job so far!!! Wilson has other job experience as well that may shed some light on your question. Next question: Do you know anything about how the Niger uranium industry is structured or regulated? Hint: Your lack of knowledge of the "Niger underworld' is irrelevant.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#17)
    by Strick on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 09:30:12 AM EST
    The Sun's story Monday morning, however, did not say anything about the State Department's warnings more than a week before Bush's State of the Union address about the bogus Niger documents.
    How odd. At least according to FactCheck.Org, the Niger documents were not what Bush was referring to in the "infamous" 16 words:
    Both the Butler report and the Senate Intelligence Committee report make clear that Bush's 16 words weren't based on the fake documents. The British didn't even see them until after issuing the reports -- based on other sources -- that Bush quoted in his 16 words. But discovery of the Italian fraud did trigger a belated reassessment of the Iraq/Niger story by the CIA.
    http://www.factcheck.org/article222.html Of course, they make a pretty clear case that Bush didn't lie in the 16 words, either. So what was the point?

    Do you know anything about how the Niger uranium industry is structured or regulated?
    Nope- not a thing, but that is also irrelevant.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#19)
    by squeaky on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 09:51:24 AM EST
    JRT-
    Nope- not a thing, but that is also irrelevant.
    Oh well so much for your homeschooling project. I guess you have decided to drop out.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#20)
    by Sailor on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 10:03:26 AM EST
    bush admitted he was wrong to include those words in the STFU address. case closed.
    Bush takes responsibility for Niger claim The US president, George Bush, today accepted personal responsibility for citing a controversial claim that the former Iraqi regime tried to obtain nuclear material in Africa. [...] Mr Bush's administration has faced increasing scrutiny over the claim - which was based on British intelligence - ever since the CIA publicly cast doubt over its validity, saying it should not have been included in his State of the Union address last year. [...] But many CIA officials doubted the accuracy of the British intelligence - concerns that were not reflected in the decision to include the statement in the speech.


    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#21)
    by Sailor on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 10:09:55 AM EST
    BTW, Wilson's quals, in his own words but easy enough to google:
    For 23 years, from 1976 to 1998, I was a career foreign service officer and ambassador. In 1990, as chargé d'affaires in Baghdad, I was the last American diplomat to meet with Saddam Hussein. (I was also a forceful advocate for his removal from Kuwait.) After Iraq, I was President George H. W. Bush's ambassador to Gabon and São Tomé and Príncipe; under President Bill Clinton, I helped direct Africa policy for the National Security Council.
    His methods:
    The next morning, I met with Ambassador Owens-Kirkpatrick at the embassy. For reasons that are understandable, the embassy staff has always kept a close eye on Niger's uranium business. I was not surprised, then, when the ambassador told me that she knew about the allegations of uranium sales to Iraq -- and that she felt she had already debunked them in her reports to Washington. Nevertheless, she and I agreed that my time would be best spent interviewing people who had been in government when the deal supposedly took place, which was before her arrival. I spent the next eight days drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people: current government officials, former government officials, people associated with the country's uranium business. It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place.
    Since Wilson was right and tenet was wrong, I think we can says Wilson's methods were viable.

    Thank you Sailor.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#23)
    by Che's Lounge on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 02:31:17 PM EST
    Nice work Sailor.

    JRT, it is important to remember that the burden of proof was on Bush in making the case for war. Since he chose to include forged documents in his address to congress, all of his evidence and claims are suspect. That is the nature of dishonesty. People stop trusting you.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#25)
    by Dadler on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 07:05:01 PM EST
    Sailor, Top notch post. Thanks for ending the deadlock.

    So, jrt. In addition to not havin' a clue as to what you're talkin' about and bein' totally incapable of bein' able to discuss this 'cause there's nothin' to discuss, remind me again, just why it is I should so much as give you the time of day when all you are is just another freeperville troll over here figurin' you'll mug some pacifists for their lunch money. Well, take a poke at me, sport, and I'll thump ya to the point of organ failure with a sack of oranges. Metaphorically speaking. Be sure to tell your friends and family. Y'all come back now. Hear!

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#27)
    by Sailor on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 07:59:06 PM EST
    Dadler -"Top notch post." Thanks! "Thanks for ending the deadlock." Dream on.

    Re: More on Unclassified State Dept. Memo Showing (none / 0) (#28)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 08:16:01 PM EST
    Yes, very good work sailor. Of course the G.O.P has probobly devoted more energy to smearing and attempting to discredit Wilson than they have to finding wmds and Mr. long 'n snarky is sure to show up with an exhaustive grocery list of talking point insights to remind us all of how much Wilson hates Bush and America.