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Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision

By Jeralyn, Section Court Decisions
Posted on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 05:39:16 PM EST
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This is too funny. Think Progress has the video of Sen. Trent Lott on Fox News with Neil Cavuto today. Lott blasts the Supreme Court decision in Hamdan v. Rumseld and then admits he hasn't finished reading it.

LOTT: I think some people are probably laughing at us. This is ridiculous and outrageous. Now in legal speak, let me say, I have not read the entire opinion, nor the dissents. But preliminarily my opinion is they probably didn't even have jurisdiction. They shouldn't have ruled the way they did. This is not a bunch of pussycats we're talking about here. These are people that have made it clear in many instances that they would kill Americans if they got out. This is Osama bin Laden's driver. And this is one other example of why the American people have lost faith in so much of our federal judiciary. This is a very bad decision in my opinion.

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    Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision | 27 comments (27 topical)
    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#1)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 08:14:07 PM EST
    Lott: And this is one other example of why the American people have lost faith in so much of our federal judiciary. How's life on that side of the looking glass, Trent? You were close, but from this side it's more like this is one other example of why the American people have lost faith in you guys.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#2)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 08:20:13 PM EST
    On a more serious note, I guess I really do sympathize with Lott's plight, and I can certainly understand why he'd say "This is a very bad decision in my opinion".

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 08:37:57 PM EST
    These are people that have made it clear in many instances that they would kill Americans if they got out. This is Osama bin Laden's driver.
    Is he really that bad a driver? Seriously, being a Bad Guy's driver does not strike me as being a heavyweight rap. The only charge against most of these guys is Being In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#4)
    by profmarcus on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 08:43:57 PM EST
    and there are rumors of this guy returning to a repub leadership position in the senate...? as bugs bunny says, "what a maroon...!" And, yes, I DO take it personally

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:01:48 PM EST
    nice that 5 of the supremes saw through the illegality of the bush rethuglicans noxious policy. look forward to reading the majority opinion by Stevens. i'm not a little bit curious about the dissents, either. i wonder what basis in law they they used to justify such blatant power grabbing criminality. . .

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#6)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:09:58 PM EST
    i wonder what basis in law they they used to justify such blatant power grabbing criminality. . . Maybe they just need the money? Trent need to build a new porch for him and george to sit on. The foundations are collapsing under the floor they're sitting on now. Ahem. Did I really type that? Aw, jeeze. I better get a new writer...

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#7)
    by Che's Lounge on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:11:37 PM EST
    Custom Agent: "Reason for your visit sir?" Former detainee: "I have come to seek revenge against George Bush for imprisoning me for four years for nothing." Custom Agent: "Have a nice visit sir."

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#8)
    by jondee on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:15:04 PM EST
    Edger - No sooner did I see "Lott's plight" than I had an image of Trent in an extreme bent-and-tucked position with head in tuber-mode. You crossed me up this time.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#9)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:17:44 PM EST
    Hey, Che? Maybe absolute ridicule will work to get rid of these guys where 6 years of trying to educate people about them didn't? ;-)

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:20:08 PM EST
    Sorry, Jondee. Couldn't help myself. The devil made me do it. :->

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#11)
    by cpinva on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:43:21 PM EST
    Hey, Che? Maybe absolute ridicule will work to get rid of these guys where 6 years of trying to educate people about them didn't? ;-)
    um, no, it won't edgar. simply put, to get to that position, you must be beyond shame and embarrassment. i am myself. of course, i'm not a politician, so it doesn't really count.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 09:49:57 PM EST
    cpinva - you're probably right. These guys have no shame, so embarassment is nothing to them I suppose...

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 10:43:01 PM EST
    I bet Lott loved the Bush v. Gore decision. Vicious little twit.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:40:06 AM EST
    I'm confused, where is the hate for Lott coming from? Jealously? Fear? Blind Rage? Ignorance? or all of the above? Lott has done/said far, far less than some of your heroes and yet your heroes are quickly forgiven and praised. This site seems more along the lines of a schoolyard playground than a place to have intelligent discussion of what's happening.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#15)
    by dutchfox on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 06:14:58 AM EST
    Muddy@5:40 AM This site seems more along the lines of a schoolyard playground than a place to have intelligent discussion of what's happening. Is this your first time here? Just take a look around TalkLeft. Yeah, there are rants and raves (and why not?), but there are very serious discussions.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#16)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 06:32:24 AM EST
    Lighting writes:
    The only charge against most of these guys is Being In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time.
    Got a link? No? I didn't think you had any proof. Muddy - It's the nature of the beast. Et al - Why criticize Lott for commenting without reading. He is stating an opinion, not commenting on any particular legal point.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#17)
    by azportsider on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 06:51:27 AM EST
    Senator Lott's dead right about one thing: I'm laughing at him, and have been for years.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#18)
    by scribe on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 06:58:25 AM EST
    Moron, he. Thoughtless partisanship, again. Even Mississippi deserves better.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#19)
    by Sailor on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 07:31:23 AM EST
    just like ppj can review movies he's never seen lott can rail against a decision he hasn't read. such informed opinion amongst wrongwingers.
    Got a link? No? I didn't think you had any proof.
    we shown you this one over and over ppj:
    Only 5% of the detainees were captured by United States forces. 86% of the detainees were arrested by either Pakistan or the Northern Alliance and turned over to United States custody.
    and:
    According to the Government, fewer than half of the detainees engaged in 3(b) hostile acts against the United States or any members of its coalition.
    and here's a list of the detainees, some with their alleged crimes.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#20)
    by Punchy on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 07:36:27 AM EST
    Jim-- Here's your proof You really ought to try Google. Works wonders. But then again, your type doesn't want the facts. They interfere with your fantasies...

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#21)
    by Al on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 03:14:58 PM EST
    Lighting writes: The only charge against most of these guys is Being In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time. Got a link? No? I didn't think you had any proof.
    PPJ, you have no shame. I have been trying to get you to tell us which of the detainees in Guantanamo you suspect of committing a crime for quite a while now, and all I get from you is deafening silence. So, PPJ, let's hear it.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 06:15:18 PM EST
    hasn't read the constitution either. Why let ignorance stop you from making a perfectly good sound bite?

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 08:36:16 PM EST
    Punchy - Proof? That's a news story about two people. Do you know the meaning of the word, "most?" brave - And exactly what part do you wish to discuss? Al - Shame? Are you so dumb that you actually believe that it is rational to ask me about what crimes I suspect the detainees to have committed? Do I look like I have the powers to investigate? Well, yes, you evidently are. Try this. I don't suspect any of them of committing a "crime," alhough, according to Sailor 10 have been charged with "crimes." What I do suspect them of is having engaged in attacks against the US and/or our allies. That is not a "crime," it is an act of war. For that act they are being detained in GITMO. Sailor - Are you saying that all of those captured by our allies are innocent? That's funny.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jul 01, 2006 at 08:12:00 AM EST
    DOD

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#25)
    by Sailor on Sat Jul 01, 2006 at 12:20:10 PM EST
    Sailor - Are you saying that all of those captured by our allies are innocent? That's funny.
    no, I never said that, and only an imbecile would think I said that ... or someone trying to hijack a thread. How about responding to the facts linked instead of making personal attacks? You said "Got a link? No? I didn't think you had any proof." and we supplied the links, of which you quibble about one. Why not just admit you were wrong and insulted people unfairly?

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jul 01, 2006 at 01:22:19 PM EST
    Sailor write:
    No? I didn't think you had any proof." and we supplied the links, of which you quibble about one
    . "...about one?" Can you count? Quibble? Let us revisit the thread. Lighting claimed that most of the terrorists were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I asked for links... for proof.. Punchy responded with an article about two men. Two does not equal "most." Al decided I should tell him which of the terrorist I suspect of committing a crime. Now as irrational as that request was, I answered him:
    I don't suspect any of them of committing a "crime," alhough, according to Sailor 10 have been charged with "crimes." What I do suspect them of is having engaged in attacks against the US and/or our allies. That is not a "crime," it is an act of war. For that act they are being detained in GITMO.
    Now you make a comment saying that 86% of these folks have been captured by someone besides the US. In the context of the discussion, what else could I think besides that you see that as proof that they provide proof of Lighting's claim. Do you withdraw the point? As for your link to the list of the terrorists and what they are accused of, so what?? Please re-read (or read) my response to Al.

    Re: Trent Lott on Hamdan Decision (none / 0) (#27)
    by Sailor on Sat Jul 01, 2006 at 02:57:58 PM EST
    1) it's not 'according to sailor' it is a fact that has been linked to over and over. Only 10 out of 759+ have been charged. 2) 86% were turned over to the US by ... almost anyone. That is also a fact that has been linked to many times. 3) A total of 759 detainees have been held in Guantanamo, with about 300 released or transferred. Since 300 of 759 were released, and only 10 of the remaining 459 have been charged, it seems obvious that most were caught 'wrong place, wrong time.' 4) "As for your link to the list of the terrorists and what they are accused of, so what??" The links, in some cases, showed where they were captured, who they were captured by and what the grounds were for holding them were. Those are called facts. Your 'so what' just illustrates the fact that you are either unable or unwilling to learn the truth that most of the folks in gitmo never took up arms against the US, and were imprisoned indefinitely, illegally and in sub-human conditions for very little reason. Wearing a casio watch, while it might be a fashion crime, is not a prosecutable offense. Now, after you've seen the facts, which have been linked to over and over, don't you think you should apologise?

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