So Axis Sally and Lord Haw Haw were just misunderstood patriots then?

So Axis Sally and Lord Haw Haw were just misunderstood patriots then?

They got their information from Mark Dubowitz, who heads a Washington-based policy group that has monitored Al Manar -- through a project called the Coalition Against Terrorist Media -- and campaigned for its removal from worldwide broadcasting. Mr. Dubowitz said in a telephone interview that Al Manar's programming includes "very explicit calls for violence," including ones that promote suicide bombing against American troops in Iraq and "death to America." He said that some broadcasts, which he characterized as racist and anti-Semitic, glorify suicide bombings and suicide bombers themselves as martyrs and that children's programming encourages youngsters to "join the jihad and give their lives for the cause." The programming, he said, is sophisticated and diverse, ranging from soap operas and dramas, produced in Syria and Iran, to what he called "MTV-like" music videos. A 28-part series that was broadcast over Ramadan and based on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion included a dramatization that depicted what he said looked like an Orthodox Jew slitting the throat of a Christian child and draining the child's blood to make food for Passover.

When FNC braodcasts the above

Sailor - Are you claiming that our avowed enemies and an identified terrorist organization should have unfettered rights to spew hate?

why not, faux news does.

John Mann. When FNC braodcasts the above, let me know. Until then, keep practicing your judophobia.

John Mann - "Judophobia" an unreasonable hatred and fear of Israel.

"Judophobia" an unreasonable hatred and fear of Israel.

A 28-part series that was broadcast over Ramadan and based on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion included a dramatization that depicted what he said looked like an Orthodox Jew slitting the throat of a Christian child and draining the child's blood to make food for Passover.

If an attack occurred just before the elections, I have to think that at least a few of the voters who persist in this "Bush has kept us safe" thinking would realize the fallacy they have been under. If 5% of the "he's kept us safe" revise their thinking enough to vote Democrat, well, then, the Dems could recapture the House and the Senate and be in a position to... I am not proud of myself for even considering the notion that another terror attack that costs even one American life could ever be considered anything else but evil and hurtful. And I know that when I weigh the possibility that such an attack- that might, say, kill 100- would prevent hundreds of thousands of Americans from dying who otherwise would- I am exhibiting a calculating cold heart diametrically opposed to everything I stand for as a human being. A human being, who, just so you know, is opposed to most wars and to capital punishment. But in light of the very real potential of the next two American elections to solidify our growing American persona as a warlike, polluter-friendly nation with repressive domestic tendencies and inadequate health care for so many tens of millions, let me ask you this. Even if only from the standpoint of a purely intellectual exercise in alternative future history: If you knew us getting hit again would launch a chain of transformative, cascading events that would enable a better nation where millions who would have died will live longer, would such a calculus have any moral validity?

So stop your savagery or we'll kill ya! Makes sense to those running the war...and to you.

Posted by Jo May 30, 2006 06:30 AM I only mention this because Talkleft participants seem to have a penchant for disregarding statements which contain inconsistancies, and this appears to be one. Posted by JimakaPPJ May 30, 2006 06:58 AM Jo - No criticism is allowed. Especially if you ask questions regarding the party line. So just remember that presently many on the thread is involved in spasms of self hatred.

Telling us that Israel is not a Jewish state is like saying Iran is not Moslem.

Jo - No criticism is allowed.

And you, Ernesto, certainly are incapable of making me change my mind.

Sailor - Tell us again that Israel is not a democracy, and that Iran is.

Telling us that Israel is not a Jewish state is like saying Iran is not Moslem.

Hate speech is either bad, or it is not. I say that certain words, phrases and commens are dangerous and hateful and should not be tolerated in public discourse.