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The Evolution of Torture and Secret Prisons in the Bush Administration

by TChris

The NY Times explores the genesis of the Bush administration's secret prisons:

According to accounts by three former intelligence officials, the C.I.A. understood that the legal foundation for its role had been spelled out in a sweeping classified directive signed by Mr. Bush on Sept. 17, 2001. The directive, known as a memorandum of notification, authorized the C.I.A. for the first time to capture, detain and interrogate terrorism suspects, providing the foundation for what became its secret prison system.

And the genesis of torture:

That 2001 directive did not spell out specific guidelines for interrogations, however, and senior C.I.A. officials began in late 2001 and early 2002 to draw up a list of aggressive interrogation procedures that might be used against terrorism suspects. They consulted agency psychiatrists and foreign governments to identify effective techniques beyond standard interview practices.

Policy became practice in a Thailand prison, where the CIA concluded that the FBI's standard interrogation techniques weren't inducing Abu Zubaydah to tell all he knew about al Qaeda:

At times, Mr. Zubaydah, still weak from his wounds, was stripped and placed in a cell without a bunk or blankets. He stood or lay on the bare floor, sometimes with air-conditioning adjusted so that, one official said, Mr. Zubaydah seemed to turn blue. At other times, the interrogators piped in deafening blasts of music by groups like the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

The rift between the agencies widened:

F.B.I. agents on the scene angrily protested the more aggressive approach, arguing that persuasion rather than coercion had succeeded. But leaders of the C.I.A. interrogation team were convinced that tougher tactics were warranted and said that the methods had been authorized by senior lawyers at the White House.

The FBI says Zubaydah was forthcoming until the CIA took over. The CIA claims Zubaydah was playing the FBI agents, and that drastic action was necessary to force his disclosure of terrorist plots. The administration backs the torturers:

The agents appealed to their superiors but were told that the intelligence agency was in charge, the officials said. One law enforcement official who was aware of events as they occurred reacted with chagrin. "When you rough these guys up, all you do is fulfill their fantasies about what to expect from us," the official said.

The CIA was wrong about Zubaydah's unwillingness to divulge plans of future attacks: "it later became apparent he had no such knowledge."

Here's the problem:

[A government] official added, "When you are concerned that a hard-core terrorist has information about an imminent threat that could put innocent lives at risk, rapport-building and stroking aren't the top things on your agenda."

In other words, if you think a prisoner has important information, don't use interrogation techniques that have a history of producing reliable answers. Instead, use techniques that assure the prisoner will say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear -- and in the process, destroy the reputation of the United States as a guardian of human rights.

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    Re: The Evolution of Torture and Secret Prisons in (none / 0) (#1)
    by Darryl Pearce on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 09:26:07 PM EST
    ...it's a pity that--compared to the administration's current boot-up-yer-ass approach--the fictional, cinematic Wicked Witch of the West has a firmer grasp of foreign policy: "This things must be done ...delicately."

    At other times, the interrogators piped in deafening blasts of music by groups like the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
    The fiends.

    You haven't described any torture to me.

    Another day, another Bush Administration atrocity. Canada, please, please accept me! I'll be good! The world is going through a bad time right now. Hopefully, it shall get better in January, 2009.

    Re: The Evolution of Torture and Secret Prisons in (none / 0) (#5)
    by Sailor on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 07:20:09 PM EST
    You haven't described any torture to me.
    Either you are an extreme masochist or no one every kept you in a 50 deg room and tossed water on you, kept you standing w/o sleep, hit you repeatedly, drowned you to near death ... all together. let's play a game, what if mohammed was doing that and American soldier Tom was subject to it ... would your definition change?

    Tom D... You haven't described any torture to me But you don't understand.... these are poor innocent lads and we (I mean GW --- that Hitler!) are treating them terrible. We should be nice to them...bring them milk & cookies and then they won't hate us anymore... Don't you get it? Sailor... let's play a game, what if mohammed was doing that and American soldier Tom was subject to it Ask the guys that had their heads cut off .... if they'd rather have cold water thrown on them and listen to loud Chili Peppers! Oh...wait....you can't ask them THEY'RE DEAD! THEY HAD THEIR HEADS CUT OFF!

    Re: The Evolution of Torture and Secret Prisons in (none / 0) (#7)
    by Sailor on Mon Sep 11, 2006 at 02:53:10 PM EST
    these are poor innocent lads
    They might be, we'll never know until they get a fair trial.
    Oh...wait....you can't ask them THEY'RE DEAD! THEY HAD THEIR HEADS CUT OFF!
    How many heads cut of v. how many died by WP, HE, artillery, shot, bled to death because we deliberately targeted hospitals ... all innocent civilians. 5 heads cut off v. 100,000 dead civilians. Only sick f***s think that's fair. It is nice to know BB, like ppj, admits they were tortured.

    Sailor... They might be, we'll never know until they get a fair trial Where is it said .. that enemies of this country picked up in the field of battle get access to our courts? Please show me where that has EVER been done! You guys on the left are way out in left field on this one... Put your hate of GW aside for a sec and think about how absurd that is!!!! because we deliberately targeted hospitals ... all innocent civilians. If you believe that this country deliberately targeted hospitals then you are the sick f**k! As I have said before...either prove this f-ing BS or stfu about it! Only sick f***s think that's fair. Look sailor...I never said anything about fairness. Can you read? Comprehend? Try a puting words in people's mouths a little less and actually listen to what they are saying. This is WAR... do you understand that? You don't fight wars to appease political parties... you fight to win. Anonymus... all I seen was decapitated bodies. Any guess on who did that? So what are you trying to say..because a few soldiers kicked a few heads around we are just as guilty? Pa Lease...!