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Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog

By Jeralyn, Section Other Politics
Posted on Wed Feb 16, 2005 at 07:33:13 PM EST
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Former California Governor and Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown is blogging...a simple affair using Typepad. Unfortunately, his first post is one endorsing a curfew for people on probation. [link via BuzzMachine.]

Why the get-tough-on crime position? Maybe because Brown already has thrown his hat in the ring for the 2006 California Attorney General's position.

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    Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog | 21 comments (21 topical)
    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Feb 16, 2005 at 09:04:15 PM EST
    Wasn't Brown the mayor of Oakland and didn't the Oakland police fire rubber bullets into Iraq war protestors at the time?

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#2)
    by jerry on Wed Feb 16, 2005 at 09:26:10 PM EST
    I must admit, I loved Jerry Brown when he was Governor, and wished he had become Senator if not President. I loved Mike Royko too, and Governor Moonbeam. And he seems to have done well by Oakland as Mayor. What is wrong with a curfew for folks on probation? Seems like a reasonable tradeoff for being released early....

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#3)
    by jerry on Wed Feb 16, 2005 at 09:27:06 PM EST
    I find linking to buzzmachine much more odious!

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Feb 16, 2005 at 09:32:21 PM EST
    This is a state that woke up from their nap in the sun to recall their recently elected governor and put a movie star in charge. I'm not sure being rational is good strategy for winning a high office in that state.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#5)
    by roy on Wed Feb 16, 2005 at 09:35:55 PM EST
    Wasn't Brown the mayor of Oakland and didn't the Oakland police fire rubber bullets into Iraq war protestors at the time?
    Yup
    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Feb 16, 2005 at 09:51:49 PM EST
    Jerry: I think you are confusing probation with parole. Parole allows prisoners to be released before their sentence is up. Probation is an alternative to jail...if the judge grants someone probation, presumably they aren't dangerous. Why should they have a curfew?

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 05:55:36 AM EST
    I'm curious what, in the lefts derranged minds ofcourse, makes this man a qualified blogger? If Jeff Gannon had taken a US state and finished running it straight into bankruptcy, would that make him a "credentialed journalist."

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 07:28:21 AM EST
    You can split hairs all you want......Fact 1, Democrats have run California for almost ever, and Fact 2, The state is on the brink of complete and undeniable financial disaster. Any other stupid remarks you'd like to share with me Mr. Superhero?

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 08:25:06 AM EST
    Deranged Darma writes:
    I'm curious what, in the lefts derranged minds ofcourse, makes this man a qualified blogger? I thought the only qualifications were the ability to type, cut, paste, link and actually get people to visit your site. Is there a test you know of that I don't, Dagma?
    If Jeff Gannon had taken a US state and finished running it straight into bankruptcy, would that make him a "credentialed journalist." If Gerry Brown was running under a fake name and Bush came out in support of him it would make him a fake politician and Bush a shameless propagandist. If Jeff Gannon was just another (kinky) blogger, no one would care that he wasn't Jeff Gannon. We should all care that political operatives are posing as White House reporters - is it any surprise that they are RNC/Bush supporters. I can imagine a left-winger (e.g. a "reporter" for The Onion) trying to get access to the White House press room under an assumed name - never mind being among the chosen few who are called upon in the scripted farces Bush calls news conferences. Also, Dagma, you strongly imply that Jerry Brown bankrupted CA when you state: If Jeff Gannon had taken a US state and finished running it straight into bankruptcy, [implication that Mr. Brown did] would that make him a "credentialed journalist." I'm sure you didn't mean to mislead the good bloggers at TL, did you? After all, the right has got all those acres and acres of riteous facts and moral superiority as ground to stand on. C'mon - lets see you do a little better, Dagma!

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 08:26:03 AM EST
    oops - second paragraph above should NOT be in the quotation.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 08:28:08 AM EST
    Lawdy! The third paragraph should be in quotes! My goodness you get me excited, Dagma. To quote Tweety Bird (whom my five year old has been watching incessantly for the past two weeks).. You make me wittoo heart quivah!!

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 09:47:05 AM EST
    Dark Avenger, I have two comments for you. 1. Is Dark Avenger the name you use when gleefully bounce around the house in your under-roos and bath towel cape. 2. Yeah, I guess you could try pin California's current financial state on Arnold, if your completely mentally deficient. See comment number 1. MFOX, If your gonna start worrying about political operatives who are posing as journalists you better eat your Wheaties. Because this catagorization doesn't encompass about 6 journalists. And yes, I will be happy to admit Jeff Gannon to the ranks of republican imposters, if your willing to admit the hundreds of thousands of democratic operatives putting pen to paper and calling it "reporting." The facts bear me out when I imply or directly state that Brown was the last in a long line of democrats that are responsible for having financially destroyed California. As far as blogger's go, I'm afraid I must concede this point to you. The only test of being a blogger is internet access and enough people that will by your particular brand of bullsh!t. But by your admission and by my concession, I hope you realize that you have just unmasked TL as an unqualified, unnaccountable, anti-journalistic, blog that does nothing but espew its particular brand of bullsh!t and hope that enough fools like you will buy it. You play your part well.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 10:20:11 AM EST
    Wouldn't wanna have no curfew for criminals on probation!!!! Geeeeeewhizzzzz

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 10:40:11 AM EST
    To your credit you're very slippery, Dagma, when you reiterate:
    if your willing to admit the hundreds of thousands of democratic operatives putting pen to paper and calling it "reporting."
    Point 1: Do you argue with distinguishing between someone "putting Pen to Paper" and being given a White House Press Pass (apparently the "good" kind)under their nom de plume? If they're the same to you, let's hear your argument. I'm listening. Given that admission to the White House under the auspices of being a journalist and being nationally televised as one of the "chosen ones" allowed to question the pres. IS different from "putting pen to paper", could you name a democrat/liberal journalist (credentialed or not) or anyone, for that matter, who have been admitted to the White House Press Room under a false name (and apparently w/out a background check)? This may be common practice and simply news to me. I've never heard anything like this and would certainly temper my criticism of the Bush Administration and Mr. Gannon. Please fill me in. Looking forward....

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 10:46:25 AM EST
    BTW - I forgot that Mr. Brown failed in his presidential run, not his Gubenatorial one, so your point about the economy is well taken.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 10:59:55 AM EST
    Dagma (should be Dogma) writes:
    I'm curious what, in the lefts derranged minds ofcourse, makes this man a qualified blogger
    Qualified blogger? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. "blogger" != "journalist", you silly thing.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 11:57:31 AM EST
    "Ah, did you notice that there's been a Republican Governor in office for more than a year? I guess that despite his promises to fix the budget, he has no responsibility for the current crisis in your part of reality." As a californian, I can tell you the primary reason why Arnold is in office is because Gray Davis screwed up the budget and his fiasco with the power rate heights. Most californians, at least the ones who voted for Arnold, rightly so blamed Gray Davis for the power budget shape we are in. Whether Arnold can fix it or not, we are still in a wait-and-see mode.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 12:02:01 PM EST
    MFOX, let me put it this way........for "putting a number on its" sake, lets assume there are about 200 reporters assigned to the White House. Yes, unusual circumstances surrounding Jeff Gannon, but it strikes me as odd that of the remaining 199 reporters, 195 of them are left wing and or democratic attack dogs (I believe you called them political operatives)and you see this as status quo and perfectly acceptable. Does that bring your credibility into question, while your on Jeff Gannon's blood trail? Absolutely! If you want to take a look at the overwhelming percentage of hostile questions in relation to overall questions, thrown at the president during his next press conference, I'd love to see you dance around those facts. I seem to remember not that long ago, a democratic "hack" operative who attempted to set up the Secretary of Defense, via proxy, at a press conference, and its funny, but I don't remember you having a problem with that kind of jounalistic scourge. So which is it MFOX? Are they both scumbag political operatives that are attempting to control your impressions about the current administration, or is it something else? Before you answer, put on your dance shoes and spend a few minutes stretching and warming up. I have a feeling your gonna need it.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 03:11:16 PM EST
    Appreciate the challenge Dagma while disagreeing wholly with your position. LOL Good thing I've been tap dancing since I was three (I was almost a Rockette!) You say:
    it strikes me as odd that of the remaining 199 reporters, 195 of them are left wing and or democratic attack dogs (I believe you called them political operatives)and you see this as status quo and perfectly acceptable.
    I find this statement a bit hard to swallow. Really? 195? Left wing in their personal beliefs or in the media they represent? When you equate democratic attack dogs in the White House Press Room with political operatives, I beg to distinguish between 1. reporters who I don't think are supposed to have a political agenda due to credibility concerns, 2. Pundits/Commentators such as Bill O'Reilly and Rush who are not news reporters and 3. Political operatives whose main job is to promote their respective agendas and platforms. I actually went online but couldn't find a definition for political operative. Granted, the lines between these distinctions are being obscured by partisan driven gray area, but I still expect there to be a difference.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#22)
    by jerry on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 06:30:23 PM EST
    Ah, thank you. Yes, I did confuse probation with parole. Sigh, reminding me that John Vernon (double secret probation) is still dead.

    Re: Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog (none / 0) (#23)
    by Che's Lounge on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 09:53:21 PM EST
    Maybe Davis lost his job because he was incometent. Not for me to say. I've lived in CA since 1978. Dagma maliciously attacks selected targets of the past (You forgot Wilson, Dukmedjian [sp] and the archangel Ron). Maybe he forgot that the thieves of Enron, who had been shoving powerlines up our a***** since 1998, were Republicans who wanted to retake the governorship of CA. Does it feel good Dagma?

    Former CA Gov. Jerry Brown Starts a Blog | 21 comments (21 topical)