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More Evacuations in London Transit Today

By Jeralyn, Section War on Terror
Posted on Thu Jul 21, 2005 at 05:57:56 AM EST
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Four underground transit stations in London were evacuated this morning during rush hour.

BBC radio is reporting that several "dummy" bombs or detonators exploded but authorities had not confirmed that. There were no reports of casualties.

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    More Evacuations in London Transit Today | 24 comments (24 topical)
    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#1)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    From the AP ... "He said that a man was carrying a rucksack and the rucksack suddenly exploded. It was a minor explosion but enough to blow open the rucksack," McCracken said. "The man then made an exclamation as if something had gone wrong. At that point everyone rushed from the carriage." Sounds more like a defective bomb than a dummy.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    could we please get past these little distractions like people who want to destroy western civilization through horrendous attacks and back to the Democratic talking points on Rove.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#3)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    people who want to destroy western civilization through horrendous attack
    dumba** Rethug & neocon talking points Without a change in American foreign policy or the obliteration of 1 billion Muslims the attacks will continue. I know Ed and the neocons prefer the latter.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    it hardly seems controversial to me as to what is the more important story-but that's just me. given the thread above re the two gay teens, perhaps we should sympathetically discuss the root causes of their murder.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    Ed's right. Begin tactical nuclear strikes and kill 'em all. Especially the children. (/sarcasm)

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    kdog's right. find excuses and sympathize with root causes. try appeasement.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#7)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    Of course Ed, as a true extremist, believes there is only black and white in the world. There is only war or appeasement. There is nothing in between, no savvy middle ground, no hard fought compromises, no difficult but productive consensus, no reasoned products of freedom and vigorous open debate. There is only be frightened and trust Bush to blow them all up.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#8)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    “or the obliteration of 1 billion Muslims” So, extremism is inherent in Islam or nearly all Muslims are extremist; did I miss something? Or, perhaps, terrorist style attacks are not extreme but rather a logical response to US foreign policy. You’re slipping, SD.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    Dadler... Nicely put. No-one ever said that the path to peace is easy. War is the simpler, stupider, and most importantly, more financially lucrative route.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    What we are seeing now is the groups that our racist bigotry targets bringing the fight to our soil. Luckily these recent incidents have been in Britain not America, but how long? I am pretty sure that there is at least one fundie/terrorist who can fly under our radar long enough to make a bomb. We haven't been "McVeighed" by them yet because the orders haven't been given. There are plenty of people in the ME who would kill or die to ham the US right now, and as long as we act this irresponsibly, our greatest vigilance can not protect us. Or we could stop gathering in public or traveling, or leaving our bunkers, while TSA and FBI disassemble our whole lives... Wow, I must be pissed.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#13)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    So, extremism is inherent in Islam or nearly all Muslims are extremist; did I miss something
    yes as usual you did. Let me spell it out for you. Most of the motivation for the suicide bombers come from their responding to our actions in the Middle East and the pronouncements by the right wing here in the US that Islam is evil. You start out with a small band of extremists. We kill many innocent Iraqis and occupy their country. many times when the US kills an innocent Iraqi, family members will swear revenge on the US. As their is no change in US policy over time and the true intentions on the US have become clear more Muslims have become radicalized. As you kill more, more of those left will become radicalized. In the end, as Rumsfeld has said "theY will tire of being killed" but not before they have inflicted significant damage. The actions of the US government on other peoples has consequences. They will just not lay down and let us kill them or take their country and/or resources without a fight. This scenario is errily familar to the 1860's in the US. What % of the Indians were left after the Indian Wars.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#14)
    by John Mann on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    This just in: British Prime Minister Tony Blair pulled his head from his rectum long enough to mumble that these attacks are not in any way related to British participation in the American war on Iraq. Many around him laughed, but hey, he got reelected too.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    Luckily these recent incidents have been in Britain not America, but how long?
    Luckily?? Thanks coz, that's real sensitivity right there!

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    actually, John Howard had a response to that "it's our fault" reasoning today. You might want to take a look. they don't need Iraq to hate the west-any excuse will do. Tell me, o wise ones, what compromise you will make with the jihadists. they only get to bomb buildings/kill jews on Tuesdays and Thursdays? stone gays/honor killings on wednesdays? I guess Hitler had his apologists in the west too.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    I say luckily, because I am still surprised that there hasn't been MAJOR retaliation against the US. I did not mean to discount the horror of London's bombings, but to point out that these people are not striking at their true target yet- America.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    Haha Ed... And how many must our troops kill before we are evil? Why is our killing (on a much greater scale than any "terrorism") so much better than theirs?

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    typical non response since you wouldn't want to be judgmental (maybe an evangelical flying a plane through a building could open your eyes to black and white evil-the same evil with jihadists certainly doesn't). the answer is not that difficult-goals(freeing people versus slaughter(be it jews, americans, british, their own people-I know your pat oil answer to that); means(intentional killing of innocents to sow terror versus trying our best not to kill innocents in spite of our enemy using that against us-your faultless root cause innocents blew up a schoolyard full of children). finally, if we are killing the enemy, I regard that as a positive. these are common sense so I don't expect that to make a dent in your talking points.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    maybe an evangelical flying a plane through a building
    We have that already, Ed. Onward Christian soldiers.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#21)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    Wow, Ernesto...
    He told one gathering: "Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. He's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this."
    To Republicans, Karl Rove really is God.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#22)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:30 PM EST
    Ed - congrats- thats completely incoherent.

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#11)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:31 PM EST
    No-one ever said that the path to peace is easy. War is the simpler, stupider, and most importantly, more financially lucrative route.
    You cannot travel the path until you have become the path. --- the buddha

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#12)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:31 PM EST
    could we please get past these little distractions like people who want to destroy western civilization through horrendous attacks and back to the Democratic talking points on Rove. Yes, Ed, because surely there is no room for anything but wartime propaganda in American lives. Honestly. Do you REALIZE how Orwellian you sound? Do you care? I mean, the basic premise was that you can do whatever the hell you want as well as you convince the populace that it's necessary to win a perpetual, ever-shifting war. And here you are saying that we should pretty much ignore anything the Administration does because they're either helping the Forever War or reporting on it would distract us from fighting it with our minds and our keyboards, or whatever the hell you guys think will happen if these bombings become front page news. Which, uh, they already are. What was your point, exactly, anyhow?

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#23)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:31 PM EST
    soccerdad.... Most of the motivation for the suicide bombers ....and the pronouncements by the right wing here in the US that Islam is evil. Funny....(I'd ask for a link here,.... but...) I don't recall anyone (of either party) ever saying that! We kill many innocent Iraqis and occupy their country. many times when the US kills an innocent Iraqi, family members will swear revenge on the US. Nice try dude...that might make sense if all this just started 'after' Iraq. But unfortunately, your theory falls apart because they (radicals) were killing Americans LONG before we went to Iraq... Remember?

    Re: More Evacuations in London Transit Today (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:32 PM EST
    Has anyone else noticed that, in the wake of 9/11, anyone who even intimated that America deserved it would have been disembowelled as a traitorous America-hater, but the neocon talking heads, since the first London bombing, have been lining up to blame Downing Street's and BBC's "coddling" of British Muslims for Britain's own 9/11? Anyone else notice? Anyone else vomit into their Corn Flakes hearing it? Just wondering...

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