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Bush's Unpopularity Topped Only By Nixon's

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Posted on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:29:00 AM EST
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The Washington Post reports that President Bush is the most unpopular president "in the history of modern polling" with the exception of Richard Nixon.

Bush's disapproval rating is now at 65%. Nixon's, 4 days before his resignation, was 66%.

The historic depth of Bush's public standing has whipsawed his White House, sapped his clout, drained his advisers, encouraged his enemies and jeopardized his legacy. Around the White House, aides make gallows-humor jokes about how they can alienate their remaining supporters -- at least those aides not heading for the door. Outside the White House, many former aides privately express anger and bitterness at their erstwhile colleagues, Bush and the fate of his presidency.

As for his plans for the rest of his term:

With his immigration overhaul proposal dead, Bush's principal legislative hopes are to save his No Child Left Behind education program and to fend off attempts to force him to change course in Iraq. The emerging strategy is to play off a Congress that is also deeply unpopular and to look strong by vetoing spending bills.

If you're wondering about Clinton's approval ratings:

His public support, though, never fell as far as Bush's. Clinton's worst disapproval rating, 51 percent, came during his first term, and he soared to his highest approval rating days after the Lewinsky scandal broke.

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    Wow, some of his people (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 07:28:49 AM EST
    think Bush is a comparison to Truman?  I don't care what they pretend are their morals, they are all taking drugs in the White House if any of them remotely believe that.

    With his immigration overhaul proposal dead, Bush's principal legislative hopes are to save his No Child Left Behind education program and to fend off attempts to force him to change course in Iraq.

    This is how a man who was handed a country united with itself and most of the world on September 12th 2001 is crossing the finish line?  I know that it is only because I'm business oriented that I see things this way but this loser has been Arbustoing everything his little silver spoon ever touches that won't thrive on nepotism.  He's so spoiled and petulant I could puke.

    Perhaps we should send them a copy l (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Molly Bloom on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:14:15 AM EST
    of David Mccullough's book, Truman



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    They might think you were complimenting Bush. (none / 0) (#4)
    by Edger on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:39:57 AM EST


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    good point (none / 0) (#5)
    by Molly Bloom on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:42:19 AM EST
    What was I thinking...must be the meds...



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    Well... (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Edger on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:00:07 AM EST
    I was just remembering that they do live on the far side of the mirror, you know? ;-)

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    Hate to bring (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:54:52 PM EST
    this up again, but you subtract those that have been told the Lake of Fire awaits all those who mess with their pastors faith-based intiatives, and the numbers would probobly be in the teens.

    et ak - Your problem remains this. (1.00 / 0) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:42:24 AM EST
    Bush doesn't care about polls. I've noted this time and again and when a new one comes out most of you react as if it is meaningful and will cause a change in his actions.

    Aint gonna happen.

    BTW - With his and Reid's ill-fated immigration amensty bill Bush lost a lot of support because of that issue. That doesn't mean that the same people who objected to his support for the amesty bill also disagree with his views on the WOT.

    And even within the demographic of disapproval for the war, many who disagree with the "war," disapprove only with his lack of vigorous actions and overall strategy, not the concept. Somewhat akin to a football fan screaming at the coach for the game plan, not the "game."

    And no, I don't have a poll, but have spoken with enough ex-Bush supporters to believe that I am correct on both issues.

    In the meantime Congress remains in the record low  terrority and sooner or later will have to stand and delivery on the social issues. Even on this blog I have read several complaints that you will never collect social security, etc. At some point people will start to remember that Bush did provide Medicare Rx insurance over the objections of the Demos. They will also remember that Bush also tried to implement a very rational Social Security reform plan but was shot down by the Demos. I add that since I wouldn't be affected by the plan, I think I am unbiasd.

    In the meantime the primaries drag on. Hillary is stretching her lead and now has decided to come to the  far Leftroots despite their evident dislike of her. She may think she can bring them into the fold without increasing her overall negatibe ratings, but she can't. That would rather be right.

    once again I'm comforted ... (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:12:13 AM EST
    ... by the fact that ppj's predictions never come true.

    With his and Reid's ill-fated immigration amensty bill Bush lost a lot of support because of that issue.
    Ha, ha, it was a republican bill and wrongwingers like yourself sank it.

    Neither you nor bush ever get anything right.

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    sailor (none / 0) (#21)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:07:15 PM EST
    You must have missed all the bipartisan support from Harry Reid, Pelosi, etc.

    June 10 -- Senate Democrats opened the door to reviving the stalled immigration measure on Sunday, calling on Republicans to resolve their internal divisions and produce an agreement on how to move the legislation forward.

    Link

    And yes, it was a coalition of the willing that sank it.

    They hated the screams from the American people so much the Demo bill supporters, and a few Repubs. most notably Trent of MS  are trying to bring back the UNfairness doctrine and shut down talk radio.

    Trent knows better. Reid doesn't.

    BTW - I think my predictions have done well. If you want to target one in particular I caution you  to not use the the one Dark Avenger used a few weeks ago because he came off very poorly when I linked to the actual and complete quote.

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    What about it, Jim (5.00 / 0) (#22)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:15:39 PM EST
    is he reimbursing those pollsters?

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    Do you still beat your wife? (1.00 / 0) (#56)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:50:03 PM EST


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    Yes (5.00 / 0) (#63)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:13:35 PM EST
    Didnt you read your own link Biblical Mineral Exploration? It's called the rod of correction in Leviticus.

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    jondee (1.00 / 0) (#68)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:01:25 PM EST
    You do??

    Unusual for someone to admit it.

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    Your link Whirled Nut (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:19:35 PM EST
    Daily with it's direct line to the all mighty reccomended it.

    Btw, Those are some devestating comebacks you've got going; it's kinda like watching Pee Wee Herman in a Golden Gloves Tournamont.

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    That's really "UnFair" (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:22:00 PM EST
    p.p: to prevent the public air waves from being controlled by a handful of indivuals.

    Apparently, along with monarchist tenedencies, you like monopolies too.
    Whats stopping you from taking the big leap and moving to Saudi Arabia?

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    bawk, bawk, bawk (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:35:38 PM EST
    calling on Republicans to resolve their internal divisions
    yep, rethuglicans sank the bill. o'lielly and other 'entertainers' sank the bill with their lies.

    I think my predictions have done well.
    Yet you can't provide a single link to that. Just getting drunk a thinking you're right is not the same thing as factual evidence.

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    sailor (1.00 / 0) (#42)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:07:00 PM EST
    Yes, the Repubs did, under the guidance of the American People.

    And that may just let them keep the White House.

    As for predictions, you made the claim, so you must provide the proof.

    If not, all you have is a claim.

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    Nope (5.00 / 0) (#59)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:04:23 PM EST
    You made the claim that your predictions were true.

    Prove it or just climb back in the bottle as usual.

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    Sailor Nope. You brought the subject up (1.00 / 0) (#69)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:04:24 PM EST
    at 11:12AM....

    by the fact that ppj's predictions never come true

    Prove it or lose it.

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    Congress isn't in trouble over social issues (none / 0) (#11)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:27:53 AM EST
    They're in trouble for not ending Iraq and you know it you eegit.  And you had better hope the Hill doesn't win the primary because oddly all sorts of Republicans we know can't wait to seal the deal in the general and vote for her.  I guess it's like BTD says..........she's the antiBush vote.  Silly ppj ;)

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    Does that mean all the pollsters (none / 0) (#15)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:19:41 PM EST
    he's employed have to give the money back, Jim?

    Please explain how that works.

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    He's just like Davey Crockett (5.00 / 0) (#17)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:27:47 PM EST
    (or the R.W action figure version), "he knows he's right and goes ahead"..Everyday it becomes clearer what a fantasy world these folks looking for any kind of vindication from "liberalism" are living in.

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    jondee (1.00 / 0) (#58)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:56:46 PM EST
    Sigh... Please be accurate. It is:

    Be sure you're right then go ahead.


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    Yeah (5.00 / 0) (#61)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:10:00 PM EST
    once Crockett was elected he didnt care about polls or color-coded terror alerts either.

    The striking paralells between the careers of the two men are endless.

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    jondee (1.00 / 0) (#70)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:06:19 PM EST
    Endless?

    Didn't know Bush fought at the Alamo...

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    jondee (1.00 / 0) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:21:26 PM EST
    I would assume that they can send cash, check or money order.

    Of course since he isn't running and his wife isn't running, why should he care??


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    WaPo Schizophrenia (none / 0) (#1)
    by koshembos on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:24:52 AM EST
    The Washington Post paragraph from above is rather strange. Bush's support among the Republican senators is rather strong, e.g. latest vote on Reid's attempt. Bush's legacy is almost an oxymoron; do we mean Iraq, Katrina or immigration? And what enemies are encouraged?

    This type of writing is way too loose, too inaccurate and way off focus.

    At the same time, Bush's positions and goals are in good standing with Broder, Ignatius and Hiatt.
    So either Bush's situation is grave or may be he is still going to prevail in the Iraqi mess. (Prevail over what, whom, and why.)

    And finally No Child Left Behind never worked and was one of the most outrageous con jobs in the last 25 years. WaPo is supporting the survival of a major leagues con job, what a beauty.

    So What? (none / 0) (#8)
    by squeaky on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:10:07 AM EST
    Bush doesn't care about polls.

    That is really not the point. We care about polls. They acknowledge and confirm the collective animus that most of us are feeling about the Chimperor.

    What is irrelevent is your opinion in this matter.

     

    squeaky (none / 0) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:23:09 PM EST
    That you must be part of the group is understood.
    Most followers have that trait.

    Of course eagles don't flock.

    Heh

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    Nether do carrion birds (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:30:39 PM EST
    and chickenhawks.

    Heh.

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    actually they do (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:41:27 PM EST
    eagles don't flock
    they used to before they were endangered. And bush wants them off of the endangered list.

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    sailor (none / 0) (#46)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:25:41 PM EST
    they used to before they were endangered. And bush wants them off of the endangered list.

    Wrong. They weren't on the endangered list, haven't been since 1995... Now, let me see, who was Pres? Dare I say the word? Clinton!!!

    Let me hasten to add that means nothing. I don't know which administration they were listed as endangered, and don't care. They were and it worked.

    Yet instead of celebrating a success story spanning multiple adminsitrations of different parties, you want to play partisan politcs.

     

    The government took the American bald eagle off the endangered species list Thursday -- an official act of name-dropping that President Bush hailed as "a wonderful way" to celebrate the Fourth of July.

    Mr. Bush said the bald eagle's resurgence after a four-decade-long fight should be credited to cooperation between private landowners and federal and state governments. "This great conservation achievement means more and more Americans across the nation will enjoy the thrill of seeing bald eagles soar," he said.

    His department made the recovery official by removing the eagle from the list of threatened species under the Endangered Species Act. The bird had been reclassified from endangered to threatened in 1995.

    CBS News

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    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha (none / 0) (#28)
    by baba durag on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:31:24 PM EST
    Eagles may not flock, but wingers do.

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    hahahahahhaha (none / 0) (#29)
    by squeaky on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:33:40 PM EST
    PPJ fancies himself an eagle.

    Although you may be bald and do seem to have somewhat of a birdbrain....

    The comparison falls apart on further inspection.

     Had you an independent bone in your body that might make sense, but you are a mouthpiece for  the Right wing echo chamber.

    Besides Hillel says:

    If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, then what am I? And if not now, when?


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    Squeaky (none / 0) (#41)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:01:48 PM EST
    And you're the one that claims to have to know what the group thinks.

    Running allowed. But you can't hide.

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    More like (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:21:11 PM EST
    hiding ALOUD in your case, pp.

    What was that anecdotal Folks-is-mad-'cuz-we-aint-nuked-Bhagdad-yit crapola if not you evoking wingnut group think?

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    jondee (none / 0) (#47)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:26:21 PM EST
    I don't do RAP.

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    Just spread Crap (5.00 / 2) (#65)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:17:07 PM EST


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    jondee (none / 0) (#71)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:07:33 PM EST
    Like I said, I don't do Rap. Are the two similar in your opinion??

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    It's going around. (none / 0) (#10)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:22:25 AM EST
    NPR said yesterday that the latest polls show that congress' popularity/trust/whatever is at historical lows.

    People seem to be tired of pols in general these days...

    People tired of Republicans and Iraq occupation (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Edger on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:39:33 AM EST
    The 24 percent approval rating for Congress matched its previous low, which came in June 2006, five months before Democrats won control of the House and Senate due to public discontent with the job Republicans were doing.

    Just two months ago, 35 percent of the public approved of Congress' work.
    ...
    Tammy Lambirth, 42, a data researcher from San Antonio, disapproves of "all the fighting that they do all the time."

    The latest tussle involves Bush's refusal to hand over documents and let former White House aides answer questions from the Democratic-controlled Congress about the firing of U.S. attorneys. The dispute could end up in federal court.

    "The Republicans are just stonewalling everything, and the Democrats are just not stepping up and making them do what they need to do, especially about Iraq," said Lambirth, a Democrat. "They need to make our troops get out of Iraq."

    Forbes: AP Poll, July 13, 2007

    Bush doesn't care about polls. GOP candidates do. Bush should have been a liberal. He does more to destroy the GOP than millions of liberals can.

    He never was too bright, though...

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    Yeah, there are a few Republicans (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:08:46 PM EST
    in the Congress isn't there?  How come when I want something done wingnuts blather about Dems "slim majority" doing me in and then when polls show how badly people feel about Congress it is all the slim majority's fault?  Where is the center of gravity for a wingnut?  Oh yeah, what it's trying to screw.

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    Yep ... (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:16:51 PM EST
    ... one just has to see the tactics the rethugs are using to understand why congress isn't popular.

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    sailor (1.00 / 0) (#40)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:59:30 PM EST
    You need to get 9 votes and hold your own to get a bill to the floor for a vote. If you can't do that with at least 4 Rhinos don't complain.

    In 1955, Senator Morse joined the Democrats and gave them a one-vote majority.Lyndon Johnson became majority leader and held that post for the next six years. Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower occupied the White House during those years

    Link

    Your problem is your leader. LBJ would never have claimed a war was "lost." He was far too smart to anger both Repubs and Demos.

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    So it isn't the Dems fault ... (none / 0) (#60)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:09:04 PM EST
    ... but rethuglicans just like yourself.

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    Sailor (1.00 / 0) (#78)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:42:45 PM EST
    Uh, in case you haven't noticed I am not a memeber of Congress.

    Again. LBJ would never have done what Reid did.

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    Tracy - Huh?? (1.00 / 0) (#31)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:37:29 PM EST
    How come when I want something done wingnuts blather about Dems "slim majority" doing me in

    You see, when you have a slim majority and are unable to attract enough of the minority while losing some of your own, you lose. Especially on procedural votes that require 60 instead of 51.

    and then when polls show how badly people feel about Congress it is all the slim majority's fault

    Because the Demos have the hammer. They get to schedule the bills. And people recognize that the bills they schedule are bad. They also recognize that the Demos have not delivered on cleaning up corruption, especially on ear marks.

    If you are going to lead, lead. Don't posture.

    (With apologies to "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.")

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    Jim baby (5.00 / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:47:46 PM EST
    I'm not a Democrat anymore, but they seem to share my goals so I guess as an Independent you could say I caucus with them.  In 2008 they are going to stomp the Republicans so hard the last words out of Repubs mouths as precincts report in is going to be "Momma?"

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    Tracy (1.00 / 0) (#43)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:09:55 PM EST
    The maturity of your comment is astounding.

    Will you also "spank" them??

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    OFF TOPIC PERSONAL ATTACK AND TROLL POST (5.00 / 0) (#62)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:12:37 PM EST
    The maturity of your comment is astounding.

    Will you also "spank" them??

    Why is ppj allowed to violate TL's rules over and over?


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    Jealous?? ;-) (1.00 / 0) (#79)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:43:40 PM EST


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    I know you just can't get beyond (none / 0) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:20:48 PM EST
    that spanking thing.  I'm not their momma but they are going to be trying to find her after this life upheaval.  Someone is going to have to dry those tears.  I refer to them in this fashion also because the Republican incumbents are frighteningly juvenile acting.  They have rubber stamped themselves into a horrible corner.  Even John McCain his sold his conservative soul to the devil for "W" and the Iraq War.  I've never witnessed such a wholesale lack of ability to take responsibility for actions and start the journey back to the Republican Party roots than these incumbents are parading all over the place.  Not only have they burnt their base but now they are burning all of their bridges to their base.  It's remarkable in sort of a horrific way watching them do this right now.  It's like watching Katrina happen again on a political stage.

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    Trcy (1.00 / 0) (#53)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:47:53 PM EST
    Uh, you don't have to be their momma to spank them..

    ;-)

    Tracy, I will apologize for keeping on going back to that, but I found it just so outrageously funny I laughed and laughed....

    And be careful when you bring up party roots or else the Demos will be trying to overturn all the civil right laws....

    But nice rant.

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    About that not needing to be someone's momma (5.00 / 0) (#57)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:51:00 PM EST
    in order to spank them....on the playgrounds I frequent those are the rules.......now whatever playgrounds you frequent they could have different rules.

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    Trcy (1.00 / 0) (#72)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:12:10 PM EST
    Sadly I am too old to care for playgrounds... of any type.

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    dumb and dumber (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:48:51 PM EST
    Because the Demos have the hammer.
    uhhh, what hammer? Yah see here what we have is a fahlure to communicate.

    Rethugs are filibustering every bill. and ppj thinks that's just A-OK. A course he was agin' fillibustering before he wuz fer it.

    p.s. welcome to yet another psychotic episode of all about jim.

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    sailor (1.00 / 0) (#52)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:42:28 PM EST
    Uh, thought you would understand...to most ex military people, the "hammer" means control... getting to go first...

    That's why having the majority is important, don't ya know??

    Now. If you guys had just let the Repubs kill the fillibuster last congress, you wouldn't be in trouble.

    Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get.

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    Oh, I thought that to most ex military (5.00 / 0) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:49:12 PM EST
    people a hammer became a hammer again when they got to grow some roots and hang pictures on walls using nails and a hammer.  I'm just silly though......

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    Tracy (1.00 / 0) (#73)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:15:15 PM EST
    In 10 years I think we moved 6 times but we were still able to have pictures on the wall.

    Of course we had no time for commenting on blogs...


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    They didn't have blogs then Jim (5.00 / 0) (#81)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:22:25 AM EST
    Nor did they have that $25 fee for every nail hole in the drywall I suppose.  As always I'm just silly.

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    Tracy (1.00 / 0) (#84)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 08:52:09 AM EST
    No, the fee was $5.00 for any hole that was not patched.

    And are you sure they didn'thave blogs?? I could have swore... no, those were bull sessions in the line shack..

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    Yes, I see that (5.00 / 0) (#87)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 09:16:59 AM EST
    you were long before they privatized our military housing.  You aren't allowed to "work" or patch your own housing now.  3M is making it hard for the crooks running military housing to send their kids to Harvard with that new hanger that just peels off when you're done though.  At Ft Carson a family that was in my FRG paid $200 because someone put a cigarette burn on the edge of a $35 plastic sink - the kind they put in trailer houses and military housing.  Sad part was the next family who lived there oddly had a plastic sink in the downstairs bathroom with a cigarette burn on it.  As with most "Republican" privatization plans, the only thing that happens is some middleman makes a killing for doing absolutely nothing!

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    Edger - So Bush isn't bright??? (none / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:25:17 PM EST
    Can I compare your resume with his??

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    Can taxpayer subsidized and.... (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:38:43 PM EST
    trust fund enabled "success" be called success at all?

    If GDub was the son of a sharecropper, I doubt he'd be where you are today Jim....he'd be lost in a bottle somewhere, more than likely.

    Honestly...you defend that putz just to get under edger/squeaky/sailor's skin, dontcha?  I feel like I know you well enough to believe you can't really admire the guy.

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    kdog (1.00 / 0) (#74)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:27:31 PM EST
    I don't know. Anyone who has strapped a F102 to his butt and flew the darn killer has my admiration for skill, nerve and smarts.

    See the pictures.

    Do I like him? Nope. Do I think his social program is worth a *^52>? Nope.

    Would I have a beer with him? Nope.

    What I like about him is that he is dead solid perfect on his assessment of the threat coming from the radical Moslems, and those who enable them.

    An enemy of my enemy is my friend. Somethings are important. I'll jump his behind after we've won the war.

    Does that answer your question re Sailor, et al??

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    You worry so much about the welfare of others (5.00 / 0) (#82)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:32:47 AM EST
    Rest easy, we have very little evidence of actual flight hours.  Photos standing next to airplanes vs time spent risking your life in them is akin to being in the National Guard vs. time spent showing up for and preforming your National Guard duty.

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    Thanks, it does.... (5.00 / 0) (#83)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 06:32:48 AM EST
    I'd have a beer with him though, or a smoke if he's down.  I'd love to ask him "whats your deal?"

    We disagree on the level of threat and US foreign policy...obviously, ad nasuem:)

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    I'll grant you (none / 0) (#37)
    by Edger on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:49:33 PM EST
    that Bush is, without a doubt, miles beyond his supporters in intelligence. In fact, compared to him his supporters are imbeciles.

    I'm sure you'd agree.

    Doesn't say a whole lot for Bush, though.

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    Edger - Oh, I don't know. (1.00 / 0) (#50)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:38:18 PM EST
    Some of his WOT supporters live in a palatial retirement compound using their retirement funds and investment income to pay the DSL bills....

    Not to mention the huge Social Security check..

    You paid out yet this year??

    ;-)

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    So? (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Edger on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:21:18 PM EST
    You saying it's only his other supporters that are imbeciles? Or did you win the lottery?

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    edger (1.00 / 0) (#77)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:38:52 PM EST
    Starting long ago and in a galaxy far away... my life has been pure velvet.

    Maybe you'll get there.


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    Getting farther out there all the time are you? (5.00 / 0) (#88)
    by Edger on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 09:28:50 AM EST


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    At least ppj isn't still insisting ... (none / 0) (#64)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:16:04 PM EST
    ... that bush had a high SAT.

    He got caught in a lie then yet just can't stop making personal attacks and lying even more.

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    Sailor (none / 0) (#75)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:29:51 PM EST
    Let's see your proof, sailor.

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    I think they're (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:23:16 PM EST
    tired of two-faced, self-serving bureaucrats and the polls reflect it, s.u.

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    yep (none / 0) (#19)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:30:29 PM EST
    that was my conclusion as well.

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    If that's the subject, we agree. (none / 0) (#34)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:44:59 PM EST


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    Pols and polls.... (none / 0) (#18)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:29:36 PM EST
    Do we really need a pollster to tell us which way the wind is blowing?

    We're all sick of the president and congress...the corruption, the double-speak, the ineffectiveness...yet we enable the two party duopoly with every election.  

    I guess that makes us, the voters, the suckers.

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    According to squeaky, you do. (none / 0) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:42:38 PM EST
    We care about polls. They acknowledge and confirm the collective animus that most of us are feeling about the Chimperor.


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    personal attack and off topic troll post (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:50:24 PM EST


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    Sailor - who do you think you're kidding??? (none / 0) (#48)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:28:47 PM EST
    Uh, that is a direct quote and the subject is Bush's lack of popularity.

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    PPJ Lies Again (none / 0) (#39)
    by squeaky on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:53:28 PM EST
    Distortion central.

    kdog says:

    Do we really need a pollster to tell us which way the wind is blowing?

    Hardly what I said, but you cannot help twisting, lying and distorting. It is your job here.

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    squeaky - oh, really?? (none / 0) (#49)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:32:51 PM EST
    kdog worte:

    Do we really need a pollster to tell us which way the wind is blowing?

    Squeaky wrote:

    We care about polls. They acknowledge and confirm the collective animus that most of us are feeling about the Chimperor.

    Why do you deny this?

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    Whatever you say (none / 0) (#55)
    by squeaky on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 02:49:54 PM EST


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    Squeaky (none / 0) (#76)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:32:45 PM EST
    Nope, not whatever I say.  Whatever I copy and then display for the world to see.

    You've been caught. Exposed. Shown up.

    Can I expect an apology for you making a dreadful insulting mistake and calling me a liar??

    Have a nice day.

    ;-)

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    OK (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by squeaky on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:07:26 PM EST
    I got it wrong, you are a dirty f'ing liar. Although your stupidity is a somewhat mitigating factor.

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    squeaky (1.00 / 1) (#85)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 08:58:14 AM EST
    Pouting and trash talking becomes you.

    But the facts don't change.

    You said what you said.

    ;-)

    Think I'll keep this one for later.

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    Thurdsay is "projection" day? (5.00 / 0) (#86)
    by Edger on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 09:08:38 AM EST


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    Knock Yourself Out (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by squeaky on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:33:40 PM EST
    Being a troll is what you do best.

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