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Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update

We wrote the other day questioning how the British controlled U.S. Navy base of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean escaped damage by the Tsunami. There were so many comments, we closed the thread. Readers continue to contribute to the discussion:

The official US Navy website for Diego Garcia says the avg height above sea level is 4' and that the wave surged to a 6' height but operations were not affected. Really? Gonna be a lot of drowned detainees if they were housed in the same conditions as Gitmo. Sure hope the nuclear weapons bunker entrances were higher than 6'. We'll never know. We'll just trust the Navy to be truthful. LOL.

Another reader who served at Diego Garcia writes:

I have to also be skeptical of any reports from DG. I was stationed there as a weatherman in 72-73, things were pretty primitive when I arrived but a lot changed in a year. We had 3000' of asphalt strip at first when I left we had 13,000' of concrete strip. The highest point on the island was 7.2' above sea level, I'm sorry but a six foot tidal surge would have put most of the place under water, it would have been a big deal.

On our Diego Garcia newsgroup there was no e-mail from DG for a long time, then e-mails saying all was well that there was some erosion on the plantation side( eastern). when I was ther everything was censored in and out we never knew what was true. I would be very suprised if it was not the same now. The only way to know would be a satellite photo from an independesource, I'm not sure that exists. Take with several grains of salt.

The Washington Post reported in December, 2002 that Diego Garcia was used for secret interrogations of detainees.

The off-limits patch of ground at Bagram is one of a number of secret detention centers overseas where U.S. due process does not apply, according to several U.S. and European national security officials, where the CIA undertakes or manages the interrogation of suspected terrorists. Another is Diego Garcia, a somewhat horseshoe-shaped island in the Indian Ocean that the United States leases from Britain. [Available on lexis.com]

Human Rights First issued a report with the same finding. The Red Cross thinks so too.

In January, 2002, Stewart Powell of Hearst newspapers reported on the transfer of "American Taliban" John Walker Lindh and seven other detainees to a ship in the Indian Ocean--likely on Diego Garcia.

Captured Taliban fighter John Walker Lindh was transferred Monday from one American warship to another in a move that signaled Pentagon preparations to return him to U.S. territory for a possible trial. Navy Cmdr. David Culler, a spokesman for the U.S. Central Command, said the 20-year-old American and seven other battlefield detainees from Afghanistan were flown by helicopter from the USS Peleliu in the Arabian Sea to the USS Bataan in the Indian Ocean.

....Aircraft carriers handle the planes that would be used to ferry Walker to an allied nation in the Persian Gulf such as Bahrain, Saudi Arabia or Oman, or to the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia, a British-controlled U.S. base. From any of these places, Walker could then be transferred to an intercontinental passenger jet. [Available on lexis.com]

There is a very interesting article discussing among other things Diego Garcia and the Tsunami here. It mentions that the New York Times reported that Diego Garcia had advance warning of the tsunami:

"One of the few places in the Indian Ocean that got the message of the quake was Diego Garcia, a speck of an island with a United States Navy base, because the Pacific warning center's contact list includes the Navy. Finding the appropriate people in Sri Lanka or India was harder." (NYT, 28 Dec 2004, emphasis added)

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    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#1)
    by Darryl Pearce on Sat Jan 01, 2005 at 05:30:44 PM EST
    ...sight unseen. ...we can only speculate and let our imaginations soar without limit. Can we get anybody in the news arena to ask questions? Will they be able to find anybody with answers?

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 01, 2005 at 07:02:56 PM EST
    Ok, as I know a lot of people I sent out a bulk email looking for someone with a contact at DG. One of the investors from my previous company had a son at DG and he said that "things got wet but NOAA called in time." FWIW. -C

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#4)
    by Richard Aubrey on Sat Jan 01, 2005 at 08:10:58 PM EST
    If you're right, SMH, there are going to be a lot of disappointed TLers.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 01, 2005 at 08:11:42 PM EST
    Just announced on CNN: on Sunday Wolf Blitzer will be interviewing Colin Powell (noon ET/9 a.m. PT); maybe Blitzer can be emailed with suggestions to ask Sec'y Powell about Diego Garcia? There's a "contact" link here.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 01, 2005 at 08:50:38 PM EST
    addendum to previous messages: Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer (12 noon-2 p.m. ET/9 a.m.-11 a.m. PT): that's the program in which Colin Powell is scheduled to be interviewed Sunday. (I've e-mailed Blitzer's contact link, making a suggestion that he follow up the concerns expressed in this TL thread, along with the URL to it.)

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 01, 2005 at 09:17:10 PM EST
    Here's the base unit's bulletin board (which has a posting from its commander saying virtually the same thing as the update on the official website). There are a number of other postings from unit members there.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 01, 2005 at 10:49:38 PM EST
    Tsunami update link posted on Dec. 31/Jan. 1, 2005 here on the official Diego Garcia base website. From the geographical information available on the site, as referred to in the update, it seems that the base was protected by underwater ground formations blocking energy from both the earthquake and the resultant Tsunami. I read the comments in the other thread and above, and it's hard to tell how many people commenting actually read this update. Whether or not to believe the official update provided on the DG website is politically problematic, any way one looks at it. I am most persuaded by the perspectives on it of those who have served there (if they really have done so). The anonymity of the internet makes it difficult to know how much credence to give such testimonials. Most of them do, however, seem credible to me.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 04:06:49 AM EST
    From my time in Dodge (old nickname), I would guess the huge reef surrounding the island probably broke the wave up a bit before it hit the island.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 07:32:44 AM EST
    If you're right, SMH, there are going to be a lot of disappointed TLers. That's contemptible. Do you think that we want people to be injured, or killed? Grow up.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 08:00:38 AM EST
    I would guess the huge reef surrounding the island probably broke the wave up a bit before it hit the island. I'm not sure it works this way. This technical paper discusses what happens when a tsunami flows over a narrow peninsula. Both Fig.1 and Figure 4 suggest that the inundation is worse in the wake of this topographical feature (look at the graph of the runup heights from Aonea to Hamatsumae in Fig. 1). So a coral reef might not have a mitigating effect.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 08:16:16 AM EST
    From the Diego Garcia web site: Diego Garcia is located to the west of Chagos Trench, which runs north and south. The depth of the Chagos Trench and grade to the shores does not allow for tsunamis to build before passing the atoll. The result of the earthquake was seen as a tidal surge estimated at six feet. Here is an article from NOAA. About halfway down the page: At approximately 8:20 p.m. NOAA National Weather Service Pacific Region director contacted PTWC to report PACOM said no tsunami was observed at Diego Garcia in the Pacific. So one site says no tsunami and the other says a six foot surge (which would appear to be significant given the topography of the island).

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 08:47:12 AM EST
    Hello, I have to laugh on the main page of this site the reporter writes (I hope the nuclear weapons bunkers are save) I was stationed there for 15 months and can say there are no large concrete bunkers with weapons on the base everything was kept on ships across the lagoon.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 09:20:56 AM EST
    NOAA has a QuickTime animation of the tsunami here. (Be patient.) Diego Garcia is in the bull's-eye center of the screen and you can clearly see the tsunami breaking around the island. (Diego Garcia is too small to be visible until it impedes the flow of the wave.) Something took a huge pounding there. If the U.S. base escaped in good condition, then the reefs surrounding the island must have taken the brunt of it. Another caveat: I could not tell from NOAA's website whether the animation was based just on its computer model of the Indian Ocean or whether satellite or surface data were also used.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#14)
    by Richard Aubrey on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 01:14:11 PM EST
    Randy Paul. Yes. But for public consumption, they only want US military facilities destroyed. As long as American soldiers remain, the enemy is inconvenienced. The enemy of their enemy is their friend and their enemy is the US. Or George Bush. Works either way.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 01:58:36 PM EST
    The enemy of their enemy is their friend and their enemy is the US. Or George Bush. Works either way. You couldn't be more wrong. Bush is by far the biggest enemy of the U.S. in the world today. Bin Laden himself couldn't do more economic or diplomatic damage to this country than Bush has in a very short time.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 02:06:47 PM EST
    Yes. But for public consumption, they only want US military facilities destroyed. As long as American soldiers remain, the enemy is inconvenienced. The enemy of their enemy is their friend and their enemy is the US. Or George Bush. Works either way. Proof? Or do you just believe in smearing without proof?

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 04:20:06 PM EST
    "As long as American soldiers remain, the enemy is inconvenienced." REALLY. That's funny, because several sources say that the Iraq invasion has been a boon for Al Qaeda. Giving 4,000 shoulder-fired missiles, cannisters of cesium and strontium, and 280 tons of high-explosives has certainly inconvenienced world terrorism for decades. Giving this deadly materiel to the enemies of our troops has sure showed them. After all, how are they supposed to make primitive IEDs when they now have shape-charge? They've had to learn a whole new set of far-easier to employ strategies. What a horrible burden to our enemies! Sending the Iraqi army home with their AK-47s and 650,000 pounds of ammo was a real inconvenience to the insurgency. Killing 1350 of our nation's finest has CERTAINLY inconvenienced the terrorists like Osama bin Laden, who has walked away scotfree, still backed by all that Saudi money from Bandar Bush and the Bin Laden family. It's just not fair what they have done to him. Good thing "I really don't think about him at all" Bush is on the case. --

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#18)
    by Richard Aubrey on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 04:56:21 PM EST
    Randy Paul, I got involved with the Left in the late Sixties. I've been hanging around them from then on. I've even been on mailing lists for the in-group, not-for-publication stuff for the insiders. L.A. Paul. You owe me, man. If it weren't for me, you'd think everybody in the world believes you and then you'd do something really stupid. Who "sent" the Iraqi army home? Nobody. They went by themselves before we could catch them. If we had, of course, we'd have killed a lot of them, giving you a different issue to complain about. The 280 tons story was made up by CBS for the election. It wasn't actually supposed to be true, you know. So does everybody else. Shaped charges go back to just prior to WW II, and are most promiscuously found in RPG heads. But you can make them with a funnel and high explosive. Had the class. The rest of your stuff is equally similar to materials found at the south end of a north-bound bull.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 08:11:34 PM EST
    Diego Garcia didn't get much effect from the tsunami. I am in the navy and stationed here. The plantation side of the island was covered in water but the plantation is closed during the week and no one was there during the tsunami. The lagoon (mouth of the horse shoe) has been extremely shallow for the last few days. No, U.S has nothing to hide as far as the effects of the tsunami on Diego Garcia; however because the island is restricted to civilians except for DG21 contractors and DOD civilian employees it is impossible for any reporters to gain access to the island. Naval News media center (D.C) stationed on Diego do not report on island affairs. I personally have been on just about every stretch of the island and there is only one main road. It is unlikely to be any secret bunker of missing detainees or even a CIA interrogating facility. The island is small and would be extremely difficult to hide detainees.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 08:18:51 PM EST
    Randy Paul, I got involved with the Left in the late Sixties. I've been hanging around them from then on. I've even been on mailing lists for the in-group, not-for-publication stuff for the insiders. Still isn't proof, just a smear and just your opinion. I'm sure you know the old saying about opinions . . .

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 08:37:17 PM EST
    Here's the transcript of the special tsunami coverage on Late Edition Sunday containing Wolf Blitzer's interview with Colin Powell (no direct mention of Diego Garcia navy base, but some allusions to NOAA advance warning system). According to what was posted earlier on the Diego Garcia website in its tsunami update, the base received advance warning of the earthquake (but not the tsunami; most government officials from the affected areas interviewed on CNN/MSNBC, e.g., so far, have emphasized that tsunamis are not generally predictable, though the Indian ambassador interviewed by Blitzer Sunday did talk about adding sensors both on the floor of the ocean as well as on the surface to create a better earthquake early warning system, which, when interpreted, could warn of tsunami-building conditions in the future). Re: some earlier comments: According to the eyewitness reports about the tsunami, its multiple tidal waves exceeded 20 feet (not six feet), higher than multi-story buildings. 6-feet surges would not be considered tsunami-magnitude or tidal waves. Thanks to those who have been or who are serving on the base at Diego Garcia for posting their own impressions. Maybe Keith Olbermann on MSNBC will follow this up (as he did the voting-irregularities issues in election 2004) if CNN is not tackling the questions being raised about Diego Garcia here.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 11:27:55 PM EST
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    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 11:34:55 PM EST
    6-feet surges would not be considered tsunami-magnitude or tidal waves. Well maybe not, but I keep hearing that the island averages only 4 feet above sea level.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 11:45:13 PM EST
    I'll be skeptical about the releases from Pentagon. It makes you wonder why Thai Government gives U.S, their Navy facility for relief work.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#25)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 02:08:34 AM EST
    "Who "sent" the Iraqi army home? Nobody. They went by themselves before we could catch them. If we had, of course, we'd have killed a lot of them, giving you a different issue to complain about." (Richard Abrey) PAUL BREMER disbanded the Iraqi Army, and all sorts of people, including our own military has said that it was a HUGE mistake. Like for instance this wild-eyed anti-Iraq war looney: "I do accept that there was probably one, as I've said before, one error that was made, which is that, I think in retrospect, to disband the Iraqi Army in its entirety..." Some cat named Tony Blair said that. You must rely on your 'facts' for whatever cr*p Murdock is peddling (or is that pederasting?), or whatever is coming out of the syringe Limbaugh has jammed into your artery on that particular day of your indoctrination. --

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 02:14:25 AM EST
    "6-feet surges would not be considered tsunami-magnitude or tidal waves." Force = mass times acceleration. Wave height has very little to do with it, except more mass. It's the rate of travel that makes all the difference. A six foot wave travelling 500 mph does what a 300 mph hurricane does, only nearly twice as well and all focused at the coastline. There is no comparison between a tsunami wave and a storm surge. The smallest tsunami wave is far more destructive, just as a bullet has tiny mass, but high velocity. --

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 03:00:14 AM EST
    US appears to have weather modification technology as a means for weather warfare. Google on 'HAARP' project and you'll see. This is their plan, to kill us non-US citizens. Read this link: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/307042.shtml

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#28)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 03:08:39 AM EST
    Ryan: As you can see, your on-the-scene reporting pretty much gets ignored here. Details and facts get in the way of the invectives and rumors.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#29)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 03:46:01 AM EST
    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#30)
    by Richard Aubrey on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 05:01:01 AM EST
    As to disbanding the Iraqi army: If we'd been able to actively disband them, as oppose to not disabanding them, we'd have had to have them in custody first. We didn't. What the folks are referring to is not calling them back as units. Those who think we should have think they'd have shown up. The Iraq army was composed of brutalized, poorly-trained Shia conscripts commanded by brutal, cowardly Sunni officers. It is unlikely they'd have been useful. The Iraqi forces now being raised provide a place for anybody who wants to come back, and better training and equipment. Having a third of a million, or however many, Iraqi army guys under little or no control would have been a problem. Getting them back would have been far more difficult than talking about it. And you can point out where we had them under control where we were in a position to decide if they went home or stayed.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#31)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 04:11:41 PM EST
    To bring the conversation back to the original topic, I suspect that Diego Garcia did not feel the full effect of the Tsunami. While there was a lage amount of compression energy built up from the earthquake, the topography does not suggest a major tidal wave could happen. Simple physics proves that the wave would have been minimal. There is no shallow rise to DC to compress further into a cresting wave. The logic from the original argument suggests that Tsunamis and waves act the same even without compression. The fallacy is easily passed off on the ignorant or anybody whose agenda is anit-USgovernment. Please make logical arguments. They are more interesting and thought provoking. I was stationed in Hawaii when the Kobe earthquake struck sending out tsunami force waves across the ocean. Since Hawaii doesn't have a gentle sloping seabed, no effect was felt there --actually the seas dropped about two inches for two mintues. I have also been to DG and whoever is telling you that the highest point of land is only 7 feet is very wrong. If it were true than you could stand on a vehicle and see all of the beaches around you. I would guess that the highest point is more around 20 feet, and there is heavy vegetation. I assume that the plantation side may have received a few waves, but nothing too damaging.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#32)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 06:25:27 PM EST
    DG at it's highest natural point is 7 ft. The barracks which stand at 30 ft are the tallest structures. I can see a good part of the island from the top of my barracks (BEQ 18) right on the ocean side. If you have been to DG then you would know that the island is covered in massive amounts of coconut trees. THICK jungle that is impassible even if you had a tank. Really, 30 ft and all I see are trees and if I look north I see the ocean. I'll tell you all what though, if Diego was hit by a tsunami then no one here really noticed. The day of the tsunami I was taking a walk to the ruins and the cemetary and I notice on the ocean side 4 ft waves. Not a WAVE but waves and that is highly unusual here. The biggest waves are about a foot during high tide. Diego did experiance unusual waters, the plantation was submerged. There are no deaths and most people heard about the tsunami on CNN and had no clue what happened on the island. These are the facts and they are undesputable. If you would like to discuss the facts I will provide any information you request.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#33)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 09:59:37 PM EST
    Here's the link to the home page of the Science of Tsunami Hazards, which links to information about the organization publishing it. It was last updated (unfortunately) only in Oct. 2004; its next international conference was scheduled for May 2005; maybe that will change now? It's based at the University of Hawaii (and, as the NYTimes article suggested), most of the knowledge of tsunamis seems, up until now, focused on the Pacific Ocean. Due to the tragic events of last week's earthquake and tsunami, weaknesses in the warning systems pertaining to the Indian Ocean are being rapidly identified and addressed. If one googles "Science of Tsunami Hazards" one can see that newspapers around the world are asking questions and demanding answers from both scientists and politicians about why people in the Indian Ocean regions were not warned in advance--some saying that it is a basic "human right" for people to be warned of natural disasters. The issue thus becomes political in another way than originally anticipated; it becomes an issue of the "haves" and the "have nots" in extremus. This is just the tip of the iceberg--uh--wave--for those interested in the political implications of the disaster; concerns and debates about it will probably last for decades.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 10:45:13 PM EST
    From John Pike's page on Diego Garcia: Camp Justice (last updated Dec. 30, 2004) at his site globalsecurity.org.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#35)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 12:42:34 AM EST
    I am an editor for one of CNN's journalist and furious because an article was prevented from being released by the Bush adminstrative media administration. I would like to get the word out and I am not concerned about wether I lose my job because I believe the american people should know what goes on. Here is the story and if anyone would like I can send them the original edited article. AL QAEDA LEADER DEAD FROM WAKE OF Tsunami? By Henry Schuster CNN Senior Investigative Producer Wednesday, January 6, 2005 Posted: -:-- -M EST (---- GMT) U.S CIA agents infiltrated an apartment building in Pondicherry India yesterday at 9 am (GMT + 5.5 Indian time) Said the local flat landlord. Residents on scene believe they were looking for al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden or one of his top insurgents. Several locals say that a man lived there but never left his room. “A man lived upstairs but left a week ago. He always watches CNN at the daytime broadcast and would not leave his room for anything.” Officials later reported that a man’s body that resembles al Qaeda’s Leader Osama bin Laden was found in South Karaikal beach and had washed up this morning. Officials believe that the man had been swept away by the tsunami tidal wave and was washed out to see. “Whoever he is, he has endured meticulous and heavy plastic surgery operations as well as scars suggesting surgery to his abdomen area. Only DNA testing will reveal the true identity of the man.” CIA agent Felix Rodriguez remarked. Officials are continuing to put together a report. Copyright 2005 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 01:08:36 AM EST
    CIA agent Felix Rodriguez remarked. I'll be damned...isn't that the guy that killed Che Guevara? Heh heh. You spin a good yarn, my man.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#37)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 01:17:59 AM EST
    no one has said anything about the tide was it high tide or low tide? I don't think the island just floats there so a low low tide would also make a huge difference

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#38)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 03:00:01 AM EST
    Hello?! Ryan says everyone in Diego is fine and I tend to believe him since I'm also here on the island. Like he said, we found out about the tsunami by watching the news. Nobody here felt a thing. Continue with your conspiracy theories about us if you will...but we're alive and well and the only detainess we've got are chickens and donkeys.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#40)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 08:22:36 AM EST
    The sudden movement of the ocean bottom caused by the earthquake produced a shockwave that radiated in all directions away from the epicenter. Water is nearly incompressible, so the force of the shockwave travels incredibly fast, but the energy dissipates slowly. If the shockwave travels into broad areas of shallow water, the surface of the water is forced upward forming large waves. In deep waters like those surrounding DG, the transition to shallow water is too abrupt for large wave formation, but smaller waves & surge occur (as noted above).

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#39)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 09:32:08 AM EST
    Truth about Diego Garcia - The shame of USA/UK

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#41)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 01:26:08 PM EST
    I suggest you you stop here and don't go further, because the upcoming days and events will make the Asia tsunami a child play compared to what you will see. Asia tsunami was just the start of a new twist in the earth's life, rushing it to its end. You are free to belive or not.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#42)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 02:28:47 PM EST
    "I suggest you you stop here and don't go further, because the upcoming days and events will make the Asia tsunami a child play compared to what you will see. Asia tsunami was just the start of a new twist in the earth's life, rushing it to its end. You are free to belive or not." Don't talk riddles..tell us what you know (or think you know, alcohol and drugs excluded).

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#43)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 02:33:35 PM EST
    The ability to trigger earthquakes, floods, hurricanes and even effect peoples brains and the Earth’s own tectonic plates is now a very real possibility. The research has been done, the tests completed and the weaponry has been deployed, and maybe even used. It’s called HAARP (High-frequency Active Aural Research Program) and was developed as part of the “Star Wars” initiative. Asia Earthquake kills 120,000 [so far] EXACTLY one year after Iran quake killed 26,000 Incredible Coincidence: A massive earthquake in Asia unleashed tsunamis killing 0ver one hundred thousand, exactly one year to the hour after the Bam, Iran earthquake killed 26,000. What are the odds of two of the most destructive earthquakes in decades occuring exactly one year apart- almost to the minute! December 26, 2003 - Bam, Iran, only 6.6 on the richter scale, but quake is centered directly under the city- 26,000 dead. December 26, 2004 - Centered off the Indonesian island of Sumatra, the massive quake, which measured 9.0 on the richter scale, unleashed tidal waves across the Indian Ocean. 2003 Iran Quake: December 26 01:56:52 UTC 2004 Asia Quake: December 26 00:58:55 UTC Exactly one year apart to-the-hour, 58 minutes shy of being to-the-minute! This an amazing coincidence- or is it more than coincidence? The United States government has the capability of creating earthquakes with HAARP. [See article below and Google] And there is a motive for this timing: to distract the populace, especially during the holiday season when many Americans getting together in large family gatherings, perhaps the only opportunity for many to talk with their family about the unjust war in Iraq and the war crimes perpetrated by our government. Last year Americans were greeted with Bush’s ’heartwarming’ generosity. He offered to lend aid to a member of the ’axis of evil’ when tragedy struck. Republicans across America had ammo for their Christmas dinner conversations: "How can you say Bush is not compassionate? He’s helping the axis of evil, now that’s Christian." This year the motive is to focus the news on the tragedy, away from the Ukraine re-vote and election reversal. It is undeniable that certain people in power do not want Americans to connect the dots between Ukraine exit polls, a re-vote and victory for the opposition.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#44)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 08:52:04 PM EST
    Frustrated, Isn't it amazing some of the stories they come up with here? bin Laden washed-up? That has got to be the most commical story here yet. They expect us to believe this propaganda bull. And they believe it themselves, someone will open their eyes one day.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#45)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 09:33:16 PM EST
    Felix Rodriguez is a higly respected CIA agent and is why he was used for the spokesmen for this story. We all have been hushed and I think there is more at stake then my Job. If I disappear then it doesn't have to be with a magic bullet. You will not let the truth be told?! Remeber the Kennedy Assasination? How many lies were twisted in that? I believe in the truth. This story is big. Get it out to the public by any means and spread the truth. I can send you via mail a copy of the original works of this paper which was not finished and still being edited when I was told we were dropping the story. [Ed. text of article deleted, this space is for comments. thanks.]

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#46)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jan 06, 2005 at 03:50:50 PM EST
    tsunami's since 1945. IAEA and experiments on tidal surges and wave generation and propagation. Fact or fiction WHO put RADIO ACTIVE substances on OATMEAL? Who tested vaccines and STD's? Who experimented with certain ethnic groups and sterilization? Who uses DU? Who developed land mines and bunker busters and mega penetration weapons and put them on SPACE PLATFORMS?

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#47)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 08, 2005 at 07:52:22 AM EST
    Check out Global Security's site for more info on Diego Garcia and the big waves. Good info on explaining the probable reason Diego Garcia was spared. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/diego-garcia.htm

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#48)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 08, 2005 at 02:47:21 PM EST
    spaceimaging.com has Jan 01 2005 satellite photo of Diego Garcia.

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#49)
    by Bill on Wed Jan 12, 2005 at 12:53:32 PM EST
    Hello is it a trick ? lmao

    Re: Diego Garcia Tsunami Damage Update (none / 0) (#50)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jan 13, 2005 at 05:05:37 AM EST
    I hope that most of you have heard of the illegal depopulation of the Chagos islands that happened in the late 60's to make way for the Military base. I am the Chairman of the grp of people that were sent to Seychelles. We are filing a case against the British and American Government in the European Court of Human Rights in Strasboiurg this year. We are looking for people who were on Diego/Chagos in the year 1970 to 1973 .. military/technicians etc .. that are willing to report/testify what they saw happening at that time. If you are willing to help please contact me on: prprosper@yahoo.co.uk If you want to know more about the case .. do search with words "chagos islanders OR Diego garcia".