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The Name Game : Rove and Plame

I don't believe President Bush will fire Karl Rove. But, David Corn makes a good argument for why he should.

He leaked national security information as part of a fierce campaign to undermine Wilson, who had criticized the White House on the war on Iraq. Rove's overworked attorney, Robert Luskin, defends his client by arguing that Rove never revealed the name of Valerie Plame/Wilson to Cooper and that he only referred to her as Wilson's wife. This is not much of a defense. If Cooper or any other journalist had written that "Wilson's wife works for the CIA"--without mentioning her name--such a disclosure could have been expected to have the same effect as if her name had been used: Valerie Wilson would have been compromised, her anti-WMD work placed at risk, and national security potentially harmed.

Either Rove knew that he was revealing an undercover officer to a reporter or he was identifying a CIA officer without bothering to check on her status and without considering the consequences of outing her. Take your pick: in both scenarios Rove is acting in a reckless and cavalier fashion, ignoring the national security interests of the nation to score a political point against a policy foe.

I don't think that whether Plame was undercover at the time of the leak is the determinative issue. I think the question is whether the U.S. would have wanted to protect her identity because of her past or present covert status. At this hearing (pdf) of the Democratic Policy Committee in October, 2003, three current and former CIA Agents emphatically and repeatedly answer that question in the affirmative.

As Corn says, at best, Rove was reckless or cavalier. Others have said Rove probably didn't know about the law prohibiting disclosure. If true, that in itself suggests he shouldn't be privy to classified information or occupy such a senior position in the Administration.

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    Re: The Name Game : Rove and Plame (none / 0) (#1)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    et al - I have no problem believing:
    At this hearing (pdf) of the Democratic Policy Committee in October, 2003, three current and former CIA Agents emphatically and repeatedly answer that question in the affirmative.
    The problem is, once you start to involve yourself in partisan politics, bad things happen. We know that neither the VP or the head of the CIA authorized Wilson's trip. He used his wife. Having done so for partisan politics, he is hardly in a position to complain that someone hit back. No free passes.

    Re: The Name Game : Rove and Plame (none / 0) (#2)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    And what about the importance of MOTIVE here? There was a clear motive to punish Joe Wilson (and his wife) for not toeing the Bush (league) company line on WMD and Niger. Absent this OBVIOUS MOTIVATION, the case against Rove (and, obviously, Cheney and his crew) is much less clear. But with it, let's all be serious, it is beyond reasonable doubt that men in their position knew what they were doing. They knew it was damaging and had dire public ramifications, otherwise there's NO REASON TO DO IT. We're always back to that motive here. Rove and his co-hots simply got screwed by their own failed move. And now they're trying to weasel out of standing up like men and taking real responsibility. They only play hardball when they can throw it at YOU. Slow-pitch softball when it's time for them to hit. A bunch of GVA's. Garden Variety A**holes.

    Re: The Name Game : Rove and Plame (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    There is precedence for the defense of "depends on what the meaning of is, is" if he wants to use that. Any moron knows that you should not reveal an agents identity even by saying "Joe Wilsons wife is a CIA agent" as if one cannot figure that out. If this were clinton, PB&J would be calling it treason and screaming that Clinton hates the military and the CIA and anyone that sells bananas on street corners. Karl Rove purposely outed an agent of the CIA and for that he deserves to be villified by the press nightly, as of course the press would have done to any demo that would do something so shameful. I can see why the White House was draggin arse on this investigation and why it was being played down so much. I bet his president is very proud of the courage he displayed in outing Ms. Plame.

    Re: The Name Game : Rove and Plame (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    It's the "Casino" argument. DeNiro tells the floor boss that "If you did know, that means you were in on it, and if you didn't know, you're too stupid to be here. Either way, you're out." Or something like that.

    Re: The Name Game : Rove and Plame (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    Hmm, I read that article several times - frankly this whole thing seems quite complex. Certaily more than the defintion of the word "is." I thought it read more like a warning to the reporter with an incidental disclosure. Now, if that disclosure was illegal, I would hope that Rove would be prosecured in a fierce fashion. But it all seems quite murky to me. It doesn't help that some of the reporters involved seem to think that they're channeling MLK in Selma, you know? _C

    Re: The Name Game : Rove and Plame (none / 0) (#6)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    neither the VP or the head of the CIA authorized Wilson's trip. He used his wife. The CIA operations officer authorized the trip after consulting the station head in Niger. The DCIA and VP are generally not involved in such relatively minor tasks. Plame could not and did not send her husband. It wasn't political until the WH lied about the findings. Even the CIA, and especially Tenet, has said so. If this had happened during a dem admin the same folks on this site saying there was no wrong doing would be calling for a firing squad. it's not political, it's treason, forget about spinning it and look at the facts.

    Re: The Name Game : Rove and Plame (none / 0) (#7)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    Cliff, Here's a rational assessment of "what we know so far." Use it, don't use it, but it is there to enlighten your supposedly free mind. Peace, bud. The Plame Game So Far