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Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers

By Jeralyn, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 09:00:54 AM EST
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The Mujahedeen Shura Council, believed to be affiliated with al-Qaeda in Iraq, has claimed on its website it is holding the two U.S. soldiers who have been missing since an attack Friday at a checkpoint in Yusufiya, about 30 miles south of Baghdad.

The statement said, "the strongest army in the world is turned around, ashamed of their failure [to find the soldiers] and we will give you more information on the incident in the following days."

The military has identified the missing soldiers as Pfc. Thomas Lowell Tucker, 25, of Madras, Oregon, and Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston, Texas.

No video has been posted on the website and the group's claim has not been verified.

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    Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers | 30 comments (30 topical)
    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 10:07:04 AM EST
    Rumsfeld should answer to this one.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 10:35:05 AM EST
    RE: "The Mujahedeen Shura Council, believed to be affiliated with al-Qaeda in Iraq." Believed? Not to confuse 'alQaeda-in-Iraq' with the alQaeda of binLaden/Afganistan fame. Nope, we sure woudn't want to muddle it all together. Let me clue you in on the big secret: Iraqis are fighting US occupation. --------------------

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#3)
    by james on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 11:03:54 AM EST
    Rumsfeld should answer to this one.
    It's something that happens during war - Rumsfield should be answering for his total ineptitude and all of it's consequences. Now, we could take the White House's response to this saddening episode. Mr Snow, the press secretary, marginalized their capture instead trying to focus on rounding up 'hundred' of fighters. Basically 'they aren't our top priority, please shut up about them'. The media seems to be complying. Another Snow goodie: When asked about the death toll in Iraq for US servicemen and women reaching 2500 he responded 'it's just a number'. Is 6 million also 'just a number'?

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 12:27:22 PM EST
    Weren't tha last soldiers captured hung from that bridge north of Bagdad? I'm curious, did ya'll know that we currently have 140 dedicated C-130 re-supply missions a day to Iraq. This is in addition to having half of tha C-17 airfleet dedicated to re-supplying Iraq. Also over tha weekend I found out that in order to make up for tha lack of replacement troops, currently 8,000 sailors and 6,000 airmen have been re-trained by tha Army to fulfill groundpounder assignments. Did ya'll know tha re-enlistment bonus' are up to $150K and they aren't getting enough takers to fill in tha cadres. Morale is sinking faster than 100 lb. rock dropped into tha water. One last thing, I don't know how many of yall are ex-military, but during a "time of war" for any Active member of tha military to speak out against his Superiors....is to risk being charged with Mutiny and Dereliction of Duty. Tha last soldier convicted of such was at tha end of WW2, he faced a Firing Squad. I don't think any of our soldiers are that stupid, but in private, they are pissed off that they are being wasted for DC/B.S. And ifn yu think that tha cost is high now, wait until we have to replace all those worn-out tanks, trucks, airplanes, etc., not to mention worn-out troopers.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#6)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 01:06:58 PM EST
    et al - Heaven forbid that you guys should blame the terrorists when America is always right here and ready to receive your bile. I mean, if they wanted to really treat our guys bad, why not just put'em in prison, give'em Bibles, diets that match their religion and lawyers??? I mean that would be terrible... wouldn't it? And they don't need tribunals to determine if they are really US soldiers... them being in uniform, carrying weapons openly and all that GC requirement stuff. I would fall down laughing if I could see the floors through my tears while crying....thinking of your claims and inverted values. zebm1 - Let me see:
    currently 8,000 sailors and 6,000 airmen have been re-trained by tha Army to fulfill groundpounder assignments.
    I don't believe you Zeb. Give us your source. and...
    Did ya'll know tha re-enlistment bonus' are up to $150K
    Source? I might wanna give that one a shot... of course they won't take me, but still.. anyway... SOURCE??
    but during a "time of war" for any Active member of tha military to speak out against his Superiors....is to risk being charged with Mutiny and Dereliction of Duty
    Been awhile, so can you quote the UCMJ on that?

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#7)
    by Che's Lounge on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 01:12:22 PM EST
    I would bet that the soldiers are already dead. If they are cutting off heads of civilians, I highly doubt there is anything we can do to save the soldiers even if they are still alive. You would like that wouldn't you Narius? Gets you off. More blood for your lust. Here's hoping our troops can rescue two of their own.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#9)
    by cmpnwtr on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 01:27:09 PM EST
    More blood on Bush's hands and his lapdogs! We're at a turning point.... Victory is ours! What a total waste? These kids died a tragic death for nothing but the vanity of Bush and Rove, who sit on their "fat back sides" in air conditioned offices in Washington and accuse others of being cowards.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#10)
    by Lww on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 02:22:46 PM EST
    "More blood on Bush's hands and his lapdogs!" You just don't get it do you. BUSH and his political cronies are the lapdogs. Just like the democrats. Money and fear of retribution at election time basically castrates these people when it comes to doing whats right for the country. Take the Iran situation? For the last week Iran has been kissing our ass yet the only thing Bush can do is threaten them. Can't let this "crisis" die down. North Korea. If that isn't the mouse that roared I don't know what is. Lets re-introduce the draft(no exemptions) and stop this nonsense.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#11)
    by Lww on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 02:45:21 PM EST
    I googled "reintroduce the draft" and lo and behold second on the list is "Talkleft" from Feb, 2004, discussing it. You wonder if it had been implemented how many lives would've been saved? The Bush daughters and some children of the well-heeled sweating it out in a humvee would have brought the troops home. No doubt about it.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#12)
    by jen on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 02:46:21 PM EST
    Why should they give our guys lawyers, it's not like we give their guys lawyers.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 03:14:39 PM EST
    The Bush daughters and some children of the well-heeled sweating it out in a humvee would have brought the troops home. No doubt about it.
    Amen. Instead what we get is gung ho keyboard warriors that won't even bite for a 150k bonus, more than content to let others fight the battles they supposedly believe in.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 03:29:24 PM EST
    "I would bet that the soldiers are already dead. If they are cutting off heads of civilians, I highly doubt there is anything we can do to save the soldiers even if they are still alive." Narius, So ignorant, yet, so representative of the US majority. While "they" cut off the heads of civilians, warriors are considered different. The military men's actions will determine their outcomes. As I said on a different thread, perhaps they can "strike a blow for Bush", attacking the freedom-fighters by committing suicide.

    Re: Al Qaeda Group Claims Capture of U.S. Soldiers (none / 0) (#15)
    by John Mann on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 03:35:50 PM EST