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FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records

By Jeralyn, Section Civil Liberties
Posted on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 04:53:04 PM EST
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Where's the shredder. This isn't right.

If you're among the millions of Americans who took airline flights in the months before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the FBI probably knows about it - and possibly where you stayed, whom you traveled with, what credit card you used and even whether you ordered a kosher meal.

The bureau is keeping 257.5 million records on people who flew on commercial airlines from June through September 2001 in its permanent investigative database, according to information obtained by a privacy group and made available to The Associated Press.

What might the F.B.I. do with the information?

Privacy advocates say they're troubled by the possibility that the FBI could be analyzing personal information about people without their knowledge or permission.

The information was obtained by EPIC from a Freedom of Information Act Request.

EPIC has learned through Freedom of Information Act litigation that the FBI obtained 257.5 million Passenger Name Records following 9/11, and that the Bureau has permanently incorporated the travel details of tens of millions of innocent people into its law enforcement databases. The FBI made the revelation as it explained (pdf) why it made heavy redactions in documents (pdf) it released to EPIC in September. For more information, see EPIC's Passenger Profiling Page.

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    FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records | 10 comments (10 topical)
    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 05:32:25 PM EST
    Records are a normal way the government has always done bussiness. in fact you have an FBI File, we all have records on us and its always been that way, you just did not know that fact. by the way did anyone note that Homeland security is not doing what we were told it would be doing? it's doing other things many other things.

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 07:20:42 PM EST
    Wonder if they would let me borrow mine? I think UAL missed some miles.

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 07:36:47 PM EST
    So years for travel records, 24 hours for gun sale records. Welcome to America.

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 08:38:56 PM EST
    Hmm, I wonder if they bothered to call Amex - I know they still have all that. -C

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 15, 2005 at 03:03:29 AM EST
    mmm. . .FBI wasn't too interested in questioning any of those Saudis leaving in waves after 9/11 (Sept 13 & Sept 22-)(you know relatives of bin Laden, e.g., Omar bin Laden) but the records relating to OTHER travellers, well that's obviously of inestimable value. . . seems as though the FBI wasn't too interested in those reports from its field agents before 9/11, either. . . but, hell-- they were all over those videos filmed of the attack on the Pentagon at Jose Velaquez's (i.e., removed from public scrutiny). this administration is absolutely ludicrous and insanely criminal. (or, is that absolutely criminal and insanely ludicrous?) In case you have any remaining doubts about the Cheney Administration's certifiable lunacy and characteristic bad faith: Wolfowitz is still on the payroll. Sources: http://www.peaceproject.com/books/BK13.htm http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/09/opinion/09dowd.html?ex=1263013200&en=478bd1ac4972616f&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 15, 2005 at 07:03:07 AM EST
    x174 - How can you keep repeating this stuff that has been completely debunked?

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 15, 2005 at 07:32:06 AM EST
    PPJ - Duh. "The idiots in town are on our side and that's a majority in any place" - Twain. Other memes you should be innoculated against: Bush was selected rather than elected, Gore won FL, Gregiore won WA, Bush lost Ohio, Bush was AWOL, The Swift Boat Vet allegations were disproved, Trust me I'm from the government, The check is in the mail, I won't .... Never mind that last one. -C

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#8)
    by soccerdad on Sat Jan 15, 2005 at 08:13:02 AM EST
    If Moe defends Curly,does anyone really care

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:28 AM EST
    Soccer - I dunno, is Dean defending Kerry on the talk shows or something? -C

    Re: FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jan 15, 2005 at 12:41:42 PM EST
    Cliff - ....And the Beamer's paid for, it's just a cold sore and I'll call you next week.

    FBI Keeping Pre-9/11 Travel Records | 10 comments (10 topical)