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Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform

by TChris

Pot smokers in the Vancouver area are growing so much weed that Canadian police can't keep up. Last year alone, the police received "more than 4,500 reports ... of illegal indoor pot-growing operations."

Police are less likely to investigate marijuana growers, prosecutors are less likely to lay charges against them, and judges are less likely to send them to jail than they were in the late 1990s, according to a groundbreaking study to be released today.

Moreover, using the criminal law to address marijuana smoking has had the counterproductive effect of wasting scarce resources while creating more serious crime.

[S]uccessive governments have spent billions of dollars enforcing the law, and organized crime has reaped billions of dollars in profits from trade in marijuana and other illicit drugs. Marijuana laws have made criminals out of pot smokers, and have allowed organized crime, and its attendant violence, to flourish.

The answer, according to a series of editorials over the last four days in the Vancouver Sun, is to stop fighting an unwinnable battle. Today's editorial, while warning that the U.S. is likely to remain intransigent, explains why Canada should become a world leader in creating more effective drug strategies -- strategies that seek "to minimize the harms caused not only by drugs, but by drug laws."

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    Re: Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform (none / 0) (#1)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:25:21 AM EST
    The prohibition wizards haven't figured it out yet...this plant is too popular to criminalize. We are talking millions and millions of users. It's impossible to catch us all, so only a small percentage of unlucky or not-to-bright users suffer the consequences of prohibition. I've said before, if the govt's attempts to criminalize this plant weren't so blatantly ineffective, then I'd be worried.

    Re: Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:29:47 AM EST
    re-phrase...if the govt's attempts to enforce the criminalization of this plant weren't so ineffective.

    Re: Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform (none / 0) (#3)
    by desertswine on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:37:24 AM EST
    Maybe the US should invade Canada in order to eliminate their drug trade. Didn't we invade Panama for that reason.

    Re: Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform (none / 0) (#4)
    by pigwiggle on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:50:16 AM EST
    I’m embarrassed and frustrated that while socialist quagmires like China and Canada are slowly learning from their efforts to thwart the power of free trade and capitalism, the US continues full tilt at this particular windmill. There is no personal freedom without economic freedom.

    Hi PW. You state :
    There is no personal freedom without economic freedom.
    While I agree with the sentiments in your post and am (secretly!) sympathetic to your libertarian arguments, I would argue that unfettered economic freedom CAN, in fact, limit personal freedom.

    Re: Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform (none / 0) (#6)
    by John Mann on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 03:36:35 PM EST
    Pigwiggle oinked: "I’m embarrassed and frustrated that while socialist quagmires like China and Canada are slowly learning from their efforts to thwart the power of free trade and capitalism," I'm equally embarrassed that someone who otherwise appears reasonably intelligent would compare China with Canada. Oh, by the way - that socialist quagmire in China is putting your textile industry out of business. Oops! I just heard on the news that the United States today reported its second largest trade deficit in history. Nothing like good old free trade, huh?

    John, you missed the opportunity to point out to PW that a Communist nation that sells its property to for-profit private enterprise while continuing to repress their population is no longer Communist. They're not a representative Democracy. They're not Capitalist, because they do not allow competition. They're not Socialist for numerous reasons, including that they continue to own all land aside from what they grant to private enterprise. They have also never developed the Capitalist system that forms the foundation of a Socialist government (i.e. France). China is a quasi-Fascist secular totalitarian oligarchy. Communism is dead, but what has replaced it is different, not better. They're a nation of poor repressed people producing cheap electronic components instead of farming Rice for the government while wearing Nike clothing.

    Re: Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform (none / 0) (#8)
    by John Mann on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 04:47:13 PM EST
    Tampa Student observed: "John, you missed the opportunity to point out to PW that a Communist nation that sells its property to for-profit private enterprise while continuing to repress their population is no longer Communist. Tampa, as usual you're right: thanks for picking up my slack. Now that I think of it, has there ever been such an animal as a communist country? I can't think of one.

    Re: Canada: A Potential World Leader in MJ Reform (none / 0) (#9)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Mar 12, 2005 at 08:58:02 AM EST
    TS, John- “… China is putting your textile industry out of business.” China has implemented a great number of market reforms, including the protection of property rights, and is enjoying the benefits. Why should I care that China is out competing US textiles? I should care because I have access to inexpensive high quality textiles. “Nothing like good old free trade, huh? I agree, and why would you think I wouldn’t? “I'm equally embarrassed that someone who otherwise appears reasonably intelligent would compare China with Canada.” Embarrassed why, are you Canadian? “China is a quasi-Fascist secular totalitarian oligarchy.” “Now that I think of it, has there ever been such an animal as a communist country? I can't think of one.” How many angels can dance… I definitely don’t have the stomach to parse the details and argue the minutia of what is your archetypal socialist state. China is in transition; once all property and capital was central, as well as the operation and direction of industry. The Chinese have realized, like every other failed socialist state, that this [central planning] is untenable. The Chinese found their economy stagnating without market reforms, they have slowly corrected this over the last two decades, and have enjoyed an unprecedented boom in their GDP. So again I compare China’s progressive market reforms to the US regressive strengthening of federal drug enforcement. Communist or DEA, you cannot fight (and win) capitalism.