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'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town

by TChris

Town officials from Colonie, New York are accused of issuing "pretend subpoenas" to force Time Warner to disclose the identities of town employees who sent anonymous emails that were critical of the job performance of a town official. "Copies of the e-mails, which raised allegations of mismanagement, misconduct and cronyism in Colonie's Emergency Services Department, also were sent to local newspapers." The information disclosed by Time Warner in response to the subpoenas led to disciplinary action against the two employees.

The subpoenas were signed by town attorneys Arnis Zilgme and Michele U. Mercadante. Legal experts consulted by the Times Union questioned whether the town's lawyers have the prosecutorial authority that was needed to issue criminal subpoenas. They said state and federal laws outline who has the authority to issue an investigative criminal subpoena for electronic records. The list includes district attorneys, federal prosecutors, grand juries and judges.

The town claims now claims that it issued "investigative subpoenas" rather than "criminal subpoenas," a muddy distinction that is undermined by the facts.

[T]he subpoenas carried the header "People of the State of New York" and demanded that Time Warner disclose information "in a certain criminal matter." The subpoenas said the records were being sought for a "Colonie Police Department criminal investigation."

Police Chief Steven Heider, grudgingly conceding that there was no crime to investigate, assured the public that "We never intentionally go out to violate anybody's rights."

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    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 10:30:00 AM EST
    Pretend news and now pretend law enforcement ahhhh the land of Bushco

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#2)
    by scarshapedstar on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 11:07:45 AM EST
    Motion for a pretend impeachment.

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 11:17:08 AM EST
    Nothing pretend about this one, but it is third world government, now all we need is someone to talk about the "big heart" or maybe "I feel your pain" "so say come you see the flag of our third world" Oh yes the Organ of government, got it?

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 11:19:35 AM EST
    "Never intentionally go out to violate peoples' rights"-- They just do it accidentally? What did they think they were doing?

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 11:38:25 AM EST
    Excellent post. Thank you. I'm posting a link to this on FreeSpeech.com -Steven G. Erickson aka Vikingas I also post here: http://starkravingviking.blogspot.com

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 11:41:50 AM EST
    "Investigative subpoenas are a complicated issue. In general, there must be a specific statute, but a number of these statutes are complicated, and many agencies have issued subpoenas thinking that they had the power, when, in fact, they did not." Well, but there has to be an arguably legitimate investigation before an agency can believe in good faith that it has the power to issue an investigative subpoena. Finding out the identity of a person who anonymously critcized the agency isn't arguably a legitmate use of an agency's investigative powers.

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 12:24:47 PM EST
    This part I agree with in general. (However, there still needs to be a statutory grant of power to issue the subpoena, and to have a court enforce it.) Now, in the end analysis, this would never have been a legitimate use of a subpoena and any target would be entitled to have it quashed, but it is quite possible to see a situation where the power would exist to issue such subpoenas.

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#8)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 01:09:40 PM EST
    This cracked me up...
    "We never intentionally go out to violate anybody's rights."
    Sure chief....sure.

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 03:47:57 PM EST
    Whether it was a legal action or not, it was clearly abuse of authority. Hopefully, the New York Attorney General's office is empowered to investigate such abuses. If so, it'd be an interesting political question - would investigating this abuse help or hurt E.S. in the polls?

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#10)
    by cp on Thu Mar 17, 2005 at 07:25:36 PM EST
    sniffs the air........ahhhhhhhhhhh, it smells like..............a huge lawsuit for these twits! as i gaze into my crystal ball, i see a large insurance payout, loss of the town's liability coverage, closure of parks, playgrounds, schools, for lack of insurance. let's see if i get this straight: anonymous e-mails, containing no language that could be reasonably construed as threatening, or otherwise in violation of federal, state or local laws and ordinances, are sent to a town official, complaining about the actions or inactions of other town officials/employees. as a result, said town official got his knickers in a twist, and had the two town attorneys issue "sort of" criminal subpoenas, for a not really "ongoing police criminal investigation". i assume these same two attorneys, who presumably should have known better, are currently under investigation by the state bar association, and run some risk of disciplinary action. or not. welcome to the outside of the "hotel rwanda"!

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 06:48:32 AM EST
    Ooops. Bye-bve bar card.

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 06:54:23 AM EST
    kdog, you got that right.

    Re: 'Pretend' Subpoenas Issued By NY Town (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 02:08:47 PM EST
    I don't see how a subpoena violates anyone's rights. They never claimed that they were self-enforcing. OK, anonymous poster; in that case, let me find someone to subpoena TalkLeft's ISP to disclose your identity. And if said ISP complies without a fight, as Time Warner did, we'll see if you still think none of your rights were violated.