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By Jeralyn, Section Blog Related
Posted on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 08:13:27 AM EST
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We're having technical problems with Internet Explorer and the home page. The site shows fine in Firefox. We hope to get it fixed soon.

Update: Mike Ditto says the problem is fixed now. He had the same problem on his site and it had to do with Sitemeter's javascript.

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    Site Problems In IE | 20 comments (20 topical)
    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 08:20:41 AM EST
    Firefox is the best.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#2)
    by roger on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 08:31:38 AM EST
    I've been using IE all day, no problem

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 08:36:19 AM EST
    0834 PST IE 6 WN XP: the issue is still here, the other reader was likely in IE 5. If you're depserate strip all the SiteMeter elements out of your home page template, test, and wait for your webmaster to find the issue.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 08:48:33 AM EST
    SiteMeter is returning some very weird JavaScript today. It's causing the body element to be replaced in MSIE. I yanked it out for the short term.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:03:27 AM EST
    It's not yanked, sorry. At 0901 pst IE 6 WNXP the issue is still there and the SiteMeter tag is still barfing the file for IE. I just checked again. The tag has just not been stripped.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:12:40 AM EST
    You probably need to do a shift-refresh. I had the same problem.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:18:44 AM EST
    That is hold down the shift key and hit the refresh button. It causes MSIE to clear out its cache and reload the page.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#9)
    by Che's Lounge on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:25:14 AM EST
    I just slapped it a few times. Works fine now.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:25:21 AM EST
    long and boring explanation is that SiteMeter is doing a document.write() call without checking to see what context it is writing in. So if you defer the script to load after the rest of the page, MSIE (stupidly) assumes that means the script wanted to replace the whole page, rather than inserting its contents where it was actually called. Bad form for SiteMeter to not make sure it is writing to its own <div>, bad form for MSIE to assume a script embedded in a $lt;div> would want to replace the whole document. Short, quick answer: take defer="true" out of the script tag.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:35:13 AM EST
    I'm rebuilding the site to get rid of old instances of the script declaration, so if things seem a bit sluggish they will return to their previous speedy glory in about an hour. Rebuilding is a very disk-intensive process, so it tends to slow everything down just a tad.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:58:55 AM EST
    Many thanks for the explanation.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 10:12:51 AM EST
    For people continuing to have problems on the individual archives pages, those will go away as soon as the site is done rebuilding. It's on entry 8000 now, so I expect it will be done in 15-20 minutes.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#14)
    by kdog on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 10:16:32 AM EST
    I was having problems and got nervous the govt. shut ya down.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 10:52:14 AM EST
    you too kDog, know they got a file on TL and all the "whacko left" ilk that frequent; some of the wingers here probably reported us/them. if that's the cost of free speech (in search of truth) here's my ante. cun-theDungeons! btw: does this site receive many hack attacks, 'g only knows from who and why.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 11:11:21 AM EST
    No we don't get a lot of hack attacks. I doubt the Government is watching TL, it's not significant enough, plus if they read it they they know I always advocate change from within the system. This is hardly a radical site.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#17)
    by Che's Lounge on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 12:35:57 PM EST
    Oh baby are you naive!

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 04:07:30 PM EST
    Well, I got the site meter a couple of times this a.m. and thought it was kind of interesting! # of visits, etc. - then everything was back to normal and I wondered if I could get that for every blog site - cool! ??? Was it all for real? Something like 5-million visits? WOW!

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 04:09:12 PM EST
    Yes, five million plus visits is for real. That's since June, 2002 when I converted TalkLeft to a weblog.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 04:12:19 PM EST
    Hmmm-ah-hmmmm, something is a little strange here. In IE the server call for SiteMeter--which seems to be causing the problem--is not found anywhere in the View Source for MZ. Strange, and I also did not like the html for that call in IE: [code deleted] The "img" is left out of the link. I would try to re-load your SiteMeter link the way your webmaster has it set up and see what happens. Good luck. I'll be check back on this later in the day to see what the fix was.

    Re: Site Problems In IE (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 09:30:53 PM EST
    Then you should be VERY proud of yourself and congratulations! I don't know how you guys and gals who work these sites and go out to regular jobs do it. When do you SLEEP??? Shows you how computer illiterate I am ... just see the site meter below now, ha, ha (but of course that's ALL that was showing this morning). Continued success ... love your work.

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