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The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo

By Jeralyn, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 10:31:00 AM EST
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    The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo | 12 comments (12 topical)
    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:41 PM EST
    Yawn. Hey, is this the Downing street memo that is the original memo, the photocopy of the memo, or the re-typed copy of the photocopy? I'm also confused as to why we should care what some anonymous British Intel guy thinks about this if we don't care what they thought about Uranium in Africa? Anyway, here's hoping that the Democrat base joins us in 2005 someday. -C

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#2)
    by The Heretik on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:41 PM EST
    General T. Michael Mosely, nominated as Air Force Chief of Staff, is testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee today. One hopes lawmakers will treat the spikes in bombing activity by US and UK forces in the summer of 2002 and early 2003 as worthy of investigation. The illegal nature of these unwarranted attacks in light of the Downing Street Memos casts harsh light on the continuing Bush Administration claims that war was only a last resort decided upon after all other options had been exhausted. More on this plus contact info here FYI: To those who have perhaps grown tired of Downing Street, the Butler Report to British Parliament on WMD cites the Downing Street Memo as authentic. Tony Blair nor any other British Cabinet official cited in them has denied their authenticity.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:42 PM EST
    "Posted by -cliff: "Yawn." Your yawn has a yellow ribbon to keep it company. Unfortunately, 1744 families no longer have a parent or the child they raised. They don't have so many yawns, Cliff. It looks more like tears of agony, but maybe they are tears of JOY over their parent/child being blown up for Bush's LIES and conspiracy. And the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis that have dead family members know that your yawn is just the domestic side that casually applauds foreign genocide for profit. You're disgusting.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:42 PM EST
    Posted by -cliff at June 29, 2005 11:53 AM Yawn. Hey, is this the Downing street memo that is the original memo, the photocopy of the memo, or the re-typed copy of the photocopy? -C
    A "just curious" question: Why are neo-cons allowed to post here if all they do is repeat the GOP talking points about certain issues as “C” has done above? Isn't this supposed to be a discussion board? If I wanted to hear the same old Republican rhetoric, I could go to Free Republic and read them there. IMO, it is a real waste of valuable bandwidth to see them reposted here daily. BTW: Authenticity of the Downing Street memo has been verified by the good folks over at Downing Street Memo. See also After Downing Street

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#5)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:42 PM EST
    The British government did not dispute the accuracy of the memo. Why would they possibly fail to see the evil machinations that Cliff does? Why isn't the world flat? I'm scared.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#6)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:42 PM EST
    Cliff, That would sorta make sense were it not for all those 100-page documents written during the '90s by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, et al about how great it would be to deceive the public into supporting a war with Iraq after a major terrorist attack. As I've said before, it's like if I tell you every day for a month that I'm going to steal your car on this day, and then sure enough your car is stolen and you find it in my driveway. And then I say I didn't do it. We're not stupid.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:42 PM EST
    scar - Sure, whatever, don't let the Gnomes of Zurich get behind you. And, remember, I never said you weren't stupid. Labby - Dude, I have never seen anyone more talking-point oriented than your typical leftie. Howard Dean? Turban the Turban? Teddy Kennedy for ghu's sake! -C

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#8)
    by Fr33d0m on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:42 PM EST
    I think this would have been more complete if his comments between January and September about going to the UN. If that doesn't go to intent, I'm not sure what does.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:42 PM EST
    cliff, please try to address the topic. The Downing Street minutes of the meeting by and of the top Brit gov't officials has been confirmed.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#10)
    by bad Jim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:43 PM EST
    In a letter to the New York Review, John Walcott of Knight Ridder wrote:
    Then, on February 13, 2002, nearly six months before the Downing Street memo was written, Knight Ridder reported that President Bush had decided to oust Saddam Hussein and had ordered the CIA, the Pentagon, and other agencies to devise a combination of military, diplomatic, and covert steps to achieve that goal.
    Everybody knew that the U.S. was preparing for war with Iraq.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:43 PM EST
    The cool thing about that photo is that you can't even see Cheney's hands working the controls of his puppet.

    Re: The Pre-War Period and Downing St. Memo (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:43 PM EST
    "Everybody knew that the U.S. was preparing for war with Iraq." Yeah, but that 'everybody' was just a "Focus Group." A conspiracy is still a conspiracy if everyone knows it is, whether or not they can do anything to stop it. Treason is still treason, and it is the only thing a POTUS can't pardon, even though that's exactly what GHWB did with his co-conspirator Caspar Weinberger. He calls Weinberger a "true American patriot." "The president also pardoned five other persons who already had pleaded guilty or had been indicted or convicted in connection with the Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages investigation. They were Elliott Abrams, a former assistant secretary of state for Inter-American affairs; former National Security Adviser Robert McFarlane; and Duane Clarridge, Alan Fiers, and Clair George, all former employees of the Central Intelligence Agency. "Explaining those pardons, Bush said the "common denominator of their motivation -- whether their actions were right or wrong -- was patriotism." They did not profit or seek to profit from their conduct, Bush said," Now compare this profit/no-profit excuse with the actions of Cheney-Bush. Is our children learning yet?

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