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An End to the Schiavo Story

By TChris, Section Other Politics
Posted on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 10:31:15 AM EST
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by TChris

It ain't over 'til it's over, but this time, it might actually be over. At least for the unfairly demonized Michael Schiavo.

When we last visited this case (be sure to read Peter G's insightful remarks in the comments), Jeb Bush made the loathsome decision to send a state's attorney after Michael to look for evidence that he abused his wife, all because of a minor discrepancy in estimates that Michael gave of the time he called 911 after discovering that Terri had collapsed. Never mind that he gave one estimate eleven years after the other; Jeb seized on the inconsistency to continue pandering to the right wing extremists who didn't want the controversy to die with Terri.

Despite Jeb's best efforts, Michael has again been vindicated and, like Terri, can finally be at peace.

The chief investigator in the matter has told Florida Gov. Jeb Bush he found no evidence that Michael Schiavo caused his wife's collapse 15 years ago. Bernie McCabe, the Pinellas-Pasco state attorney, urged Bush to end the state's inquiry into the death of Terri Schiavo. Bush said he would follow McCabe's recommendation, the St. Petersburg Times reported Friday.

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    An End to the Schiavo Story | 25 comments (25 topical)
    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    FINALLY!!!! Michael Schiavo is vindicated once again. Any chance the extremist religious right will apologize to Michael Schiavo? Saw Mark Fuhrman and Sean Hannity on FOX wen I was flipping through the stations and heard them say Jeb Bush should convene a grand jury to indict Michael Schiavo AND if that didn't work, the Justice departmnt should get involved!! Unbelievable! What's wrong with these people? Can Michael Schiavo sue for defamation or is it not worth it?

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Can Michael Schiavo sue? Calling Linn Woods! Jeb Bush was taking advie from Sean Hannity who encourage Furhman to write this cocked up book They really need to be called on this crap --the circle jerk of lies

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    If I were Michael Schiavo, I'd make it my life's work to exact justice from Jeb Bush.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#5)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    carla you're dead on but what's funny is the Shiavo circus probably won't get so much as a mention in 2006, even though it stands as a symbol that everyone can understand proving just how serious these people are, they're out for blood, it isn't pretty, it isn't chummy, and when Kerry said we all wake up the morning after an election winners because we're Americans he was more wrong than he is on any political issue. Those who care about their liberty and the liberties of others LOST, from every conceivable angle.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Make sure you don't enter a vegetative state in Florida....the state won't respect your wishes. The far right thinks they know whats best for everybody. God told them. Your wishes and beliefs are meaningless to them.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    So now I suppose that Frist and Delay will do the admirable and gracious thing and apologize to Michael Schiavo and the rest of the world for being horribly totally wrong and misguided, right? Crickets.... But, but, but, Durbin BETTER apologize, right?

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#8)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Kdog: Make sure to put it in writing.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Very true Wile, very true and very sad. Sad that you need a piece of paper to keep the govt. out of a personal family decision. If it wasn't for this case, I'd never dream that I'd need written proof of my wishes, when I trust my parents and siblings to carry out my wishes just fine.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#10)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Schiavo should sue.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#11)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Fenria - No, they won't and they shouldn't. et al - The issue here has always been the discrepancies between what what was said by the various parties. The state, when there is a conflict between parties were there is a life involved, should always err on the side of life. You may discover that in your hatred of Bush and all things Repub, and led by the usual suspects in the MSM, that you have greased the slippery slope that will allow someone in the not too distant future to decide if you are worth more to the state alive or reduced to fat and bone for sale in the chemical after market. Oh, I know, I know. Everyone on the family side was lying and the courts were merely following due process and precedent. Will that matter if your turn comes?

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#12)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Schiavo should sue.
    Let me add: Big time.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#13)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Kdog: Interestingly enough, I believe it is the fear of lawsuits that stop hospitals from pulling the plug alot of times. But I am with you about having a piece of paper from the gov't in order to have something. A federal firearms permit for a machine gun in my case.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#14)
    by Johnny on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:00 PM EST
    Oh Jim, a couple of the rocks of the wrong wingers were dead wrong in this, they should aknowledge. They messed with something they should not have, were proven wrong, showed up, and now they need to stand up. But not in this current atmosphere. republicans are all hot and bothered about personal responsibility, let them practice what they preach.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#15)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    Johnny - I care nothing about the Demos or the Repubs. Get partisan politics out of your mind and read the link. See what this case protends for the future.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#17)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    Oh, and Mr. Kincaids' blog has the current entry dated Jan. 21 of this year. He's a real go-getter, kinda like some folks I know.
    Huh? What are you talking about? Kincaid writes a daily column for Accuracy in Media. I'm unsure of his title, and don't really care. The column I linked you to was dated 7/8/05. The article also referenced/quoted O'Reilly of FNC, the General Accounting Office, Human Events, the AARP, the UN, the World Health Organization and Dutch euthanasia advocates. Why did you not mention them instead of only the Discovery Institute? So what's your point besides trying to discredit someone? When you can’t dispute the facts, just attack the source? That has become so ridiculous. Yesterday I linked to a source that showed the 23 sites of terror attacks and Glanton when into spasms because it was the “Sun.” I mean, that is funny. And you are also. Facts speak for themselves. Tell me the information referenced is wrong, not that you hate the source. BTW - Might we ask what nationally known organization you write a column for? And I withdraw the offer to be my secretary. Anyone who doesn’t know that it should be “…Mr. Kincaid’s blog…” can’t be my secretary. I don’t need two of us making mistakes.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#18)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    No they didn't quote all those people he gave his opinion about what their motives were and then compared everyone to Nazis. I thought you were for a single payer system. Are you a Nazi too

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    PPJ - "Everyone on the family side was lying" Correct."Bob and Mary Schindler disputed the results, maintaining that their daughter interacted with them and tried to speak." link

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#21)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    DA - Pay backs are hell, eh? You have made a career out of my misaventures with keypads, I just thought a little reminder about casting the first stone would be sweet. And I ask again. Why do you care about his blog? So what? Maybe he quit. Who knows? The information in the link us either factual or it is not. Since you don't refute it, I assume you can't refute it.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#22)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    Steve J - Sorry, I should have posted a sarcasm warning. My point in all of this remains the same. If there is a dispute, government should err on the side of life. To not do so the courts displayed an amaxing arrogance.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#23)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    There can always be a dispute even if the facts are clear, simply because someone refuses to accept the facts.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#24)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    SD - Looking back over history, I think Gallieo and Columbus would agree with you.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#25)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    SD - Looking back over history, I think Gallieo and Columbus would agree with you.
    WTF, that is really idiotic and not at all comparable. The evidence in the Schiavo case was overwhelming and was not based on gueses or ignorance. The parents refused to accept it. I can understand their unwillingness to let go, but that doesn't excude all the other political hacks who tried to milk it for their purposes.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#27)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    SD writes:
    The evidence in the Schiavo case was overwhelming and was not based on gueses or ignorance.
    And so said the “Church of We Can’t Afford To Keep You Around.” DA writes:
    As you didn't catch another error I made in my first post, I'll have to say that your stone is kinda more like a nerf ball, like most of your 'reasoning' on display here.
    You know, if we are all going to sit around worrying about keyboard misadventures... What have we? Communication is about understanding, and blogging is about thoughts and positions. I find your worries over misspellings, etc., to be demonstrative of being totally anally retentive. So snip and snap, I’ll just ignore your complaints… and every now and then hold up a mirror. Now, you write:
    It's not the information that I refute, but the conclusion that we're all going to be killed when we're old and dying because it costs too much to keep us alive.
    Check out the financials on Medicare. It makes Social Security look great. And find out what happens to an ill old person when a certain number of days pass, or when certain tests happen, in their hospital stay. It is all written down. It is all in the guidelines. “You can blow a 92 on the old oxygen meter? Great! We’re sending you home.” “Oh, you can’t feed yourself? There’s no one to do it? Well, have a nice day.” Tell me again how the Left is concerned about people. What you care about is power. As for Sagan...

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#28)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    ppj, (insult deleted)you once again resort to empty oneliners and unfounded allegations, i.e. dog bites man.

    Re: An End to the Schiavo Story (none / 0) (#30)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    DA writes:
    I don't know. You started it on this thread, but you want to end it because you don't look good. Boo-f****n' hoo.
    No, I was just trying to point out how useless it is, but you just want to quarrel. Okay, fine. Shall I go back and show you the numerous times you have tried to change the subject by attacking my spelling? You can't hide. You have done it over and over. The link on Sagan makes a simple point. Science by consensus is not science. I think the article hit home. BTW - My original comments were simply that, if we care for life, there was no need to kill Terri Schiavo. She had a family just waiting to take care of her. Her husband could have divorced her and went forward with this life. But no. Her very existence enraged the Left. My God, what evil the state does in the name of power.

    An End to the Schiavo Story | 25 comments (25 topical)