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Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings

Yusuf Islam, formerly known as Cat Stevens, had this to say about the London bombings.

I am horrified at the nightmarish acts of carnage we have just seen inflicted on London and its people in what authorities are describing as co-ordinated terror attacks. What on earth these murderers think they can gain by blowing up innocent men, women and children is impossible to imagine. No doubt the fatalities will include people of all religions and races without discrimination. My heartfelt sympathy goes out to all those who have suffered loss or injury.

More of Yusuf's statement is here.

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    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#1)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    But wait, isn't he banned from the United States? Peace Train, y'all.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#2)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    From Yusuf's comments:
    It is possible that the perpetrators may have links to Al-Qaida and carry foreign or Arabic sounding names
    Possible? Possible? May have? This guy is obviously the world's greatest at understatement. BTW - Don't jump. I agree on no group condemnations.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#3)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    Jim, Let's just remember Tim McVeigh. The vengeful instinct doesn't lend itself to this critical examination, but the rational man, raised in free America, should lead himself there. And even if it was "Al Qaeda", the crude simplicity of these bombs ought to give you pause as to the ease with which anyone who has the evil motivation can slaughter people at will. That it doesn't happen more often should give you much more hope than it seems to. I actually like you, Jim. If only because I HATE PREACHING TO THE CONVERTED. I like the challenge. Let's both think hard, my fellow free American.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#4)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    Dadler - Why can't you just admit that the attacks were done by terrorists? They may be home grown, they may be imported. Who cares? Read their statement.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#5)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    of course they were done by terrorists - duh. It was an act of terrorism. You were trying to pin them on a specific group when it is not known yet exactly who did it.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    they were done by terrorists. and now?

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#7)
    by jimcee on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    It's a very safe bet that they were terrorists. I would also posit that it is safe to say that it was of radical Muslim origin and well co-ordinated, all but one went off at 8:50am London time so they were synchronized and of uninform construction (10lbs). Right now I'm sure that MI5 has made a courtesy call to all the Imams in the Brittish Isles and they would be correct to do that and not visit every Anglican viccar across the country-side for one reason, it isn't in the playbook of most religions to kill innocent people to earn the deity's graces. Yeah the Japanese managed to corrupt Buddism with the Bushiddo cult, the Christian crusaders corrupted the Bible to declare war on the non-Christian semetic peoples of the near-east and the Protestants and the Papists did unimaginable things to each other in the name of God. But that was in the past and we live in the here and now. There is but one religion that is involved in the violent attacks on innocents in the name of God and that is Islam. Profiling can be an honest and helpful tool and I'm sure that the Brits are clever enough to use it. But if they find it is a bunch of Methodists instead I'll eat my arse.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#8)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    There will continue to be attacks in Europe and maybe here sooner or later. The primary motivation is not religous but political. The Muslims want the US, England, etc out of the ME. Bush has no intentions of leaving and given torture, Fallujah, and the lack of concern for the well being of Iraqis by the US there is plenty of motivation besides religious. Look at this link in the American Conservative which is the most complete study of sucide bombers and their motivation. Religion has surprisingly little to do with it

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#9)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    SD writes:
    The Muslims want the US, England, etc out of the ME.
    SD, why do you keep repeating this? He doesn't want to settle for just the ME. We know exactly what OBL wants from this interview with Peter Arnett.
    REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, will the end of the United States' presence in Saudi Arabia, their withdrawal, will that end your call for jihad against the United States and against the US ? BIN LADIN: The cause of the reaction must be sought and the act that has triggered this reaction must be eliminated. The reaction came as a result of the US aggressive policy towards the entire Muslim world and not just towards the Arabian peninsula. So if the cause that has called for this act comes to an end, this act, in turn, will come to an end. So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world


    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#10)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:02 PM EST
    PPJ why do embarass yourself, you keep posting one comment that you have continually misrepresented and also ignored many of other statements by OBL. You do it to keep your delusional point of view going so that you cast all Muslims as the enemy. Your continuing to say something does not make it true.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#11)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    SD - I post it because it refutes your nutty claims that all these folks need is a hug and a cup of hot choclate and all will be well. And I didn't say all Moslems. OBL said we are supposed to let Moslems throughout the world do as they please. Read the last 15 words in his statement. That Is Plain Enough For Anyone.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#12)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    SD - I post it because it refutes your nutty claims that all these folks need is a hug and a cup of hot choclate and all will be well.
    as usual you just make stuff up.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#13)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    SD - I guess sarcasm is too complicated for you.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    Jim: "Possible? Possible? May have? This guy is obviously the world's greatest at understatement. And you take the cake avoiding all knowledge in the quest to play politics with OTHER people's lives. Just like your favorite petty prince. "Posted by jimcee: "It's a very safe bet that they were terrorists. I would also posit that it is safe to say that it was of radical Muslim origin" Which is why it affected transit in the MUSLIM section, right? I think if you'll check, it was the Basques.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#15)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    PIL writes:
    I think if you'll check, it was the Basques.
    How about that folks! Let's hear it for Paul! What an intellect! Link

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#16)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    I would suggest than anyone on this site who time after time only responds with personal attacks and the twisting of a single word or phrase, especially when that word or phrase is handed down to them from rw talk radio, is not worth responding to. We have many posters here, on all sides, who legitimately engage in reasoned discourse. The rest is just noise. Please don't feed the trolls.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    Don't forget Poland, Jim. You are ready to blame people who your fake president is ready to have other people kill. It doesn't take intellect to judge the morality of your bigotry. Package bombs are the cheapest, most unstoppable, low yield terrorism around. ANYONE could have left those bombs, but you racists already know, in line with Coulter's "Invade their countries, kill their leaders, forceably convert them to Christianity" TERRORISM You folks frankly believe in counter-terrorism, which is both racist and illegal under the UN charter. Since your kind are profiting from war and terror, you are biased by your greed. 'Unrestrained greed, collective-guilt racism, genocide, and conspiracy' is NOT a valid foreign policy or government under our Constitution.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    Jim: "I post it because it refutes your nutty claims that all these folks need is a hug and a cup of hot choclate and all will be well." That's all you and your fellow neocons are willing to give them with your own hands. You in fact are only willing to offer OBL a hug and a hot cup of chocolate. You don't have any bullets or any gun to do the WORK. Yet the claim that Democrats don't want to fight is clearly delusional. Democrats ARE fighting; neocons are not. You are not. You're standing there with livery on, offering OBL a chicken McNugget from the end of your silver spoon. You support the guy who put 2,000 men into the Hunt for Osama, and botched the job.

    Re: Yusuf Islam on the London Bombings (none / 0) (#19)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:04 PM EST
    "Salman Rushdie, indeed any writer who abuses the prophet or indeed any prophet under Islamic law, the sentence for that is actually death." Cat … er Yusuf Islam enlightening Kingston University students about the religion of peace. Yusuf’s contemporaries got their get back on Theo van Gogh last November, and Allah willing Rushdie’s days are as numbered. Note; the peace train has limited seating.