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Arrests in London Bomb Attacks

By Jeralyn, Section War on Terror
Posted on Tue Jul 12, 2005 at 08:56:09 AM EST
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Arrests have been made in last week's London bombings. The BBC also reports that all four suspects were London natives. Sky News reports all four bombers died in the attacks.

Scotland Yard is conducting a press conference. Quick notes:

Three came from West Yorkshire area. Executed six warrants under Terrorism Act at three of the four men's homes. A detailed forensic exam will follow. All four arrived in London by train on the morning of July 7. They have seen CCTV footage showing them at King's Cross station at 8:30 am on that day. One man's family reported him missing. He was killed in the bus bomb.

Personal documents bearing names of three of four man have been found close to the sites of explosion. Missing man, his property was found on the bus. Property in name of second and third man found near two of the bombs.

Another man has been arrested in Yorkshire.

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    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#1)
    by theologicus on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:06 PM EST
    Personal documents bearing names of three of four men have been found close to the sites of explosion. Hmmm. How convenient. Just like those passports of the supposed highjackers after 9/11. Those terrorists! They just can't seem to control their personal documents. But the police sure are resourceful.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#2)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:07 PM EST
    Sky News terror expert Steve Park said the documents may have been deliberately planted to "send police the wrong way".
    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#3)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    All still after the fact, just like a criminal investigation. Which is what this is, just like 9/11. We took the bait and now we're being reeled in. Sad but true. And Blair, an absolute coward, has no one to blame for being such a suckup to Dubya but himself. That relationship is so clear it's painful. The wimpy, never-taken-or-thrown-even-a-punch-in-anger Blair being essentially bullied and charmed at the same time by Bush. Blair is like a kid on the playground who sells his soul to be friend with the illiterate bully. Idiot.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    so who was it that exploded the bombs-the zionists, the mossad or the american neocons. the depths to which the posters here sink in an effort to excuse and offer apologies for terrorism never cease to amaze me. I await the anguished bleats to the contrary.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#5)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    ed, it was religiofascists; whether they bomb abortion clinics or subways all religions MUST be stamped out!

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    ah, the voice of moderation is heard from. sorry, don't see hordes of christians blowing themselves and other up-right now, it is an almost uniquely islamic trait. don't see praise from the pope for the few and rare abortion clinic bombings/don't see eric rudolph elevated to martyrdom. the only thing I see is that the posters here find excuses for one (guess which) and run shrieking in terror from the other (come on, you can guess).

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    ... all religions MUST be stamped out!
    I think that's the most openly honest assessment of what the extreme left is all about. Take note, all ye Christians, Jews, and Moslems. Your country was founded on the basis of freedom of religion; the left would eliminate that bedrock.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    don't see hordes of christians blowing themselves and other up-right now
    And I don't see the war supporters like you running down to enlist to fight in this global clash of civilizations. Why not? Your mindset is the same as the terrorists, except that you are only willing to send others to do the heavy lifting. If the terrorists are emboldened, it's because they see people like you...who support war but are too scared to fight.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Dear Famous Mr. Ed, You've been the first one to bring up "zionists" or blaming the Jews. Nobody else here has been during this discussion. Although, a while back when somebody WAS making actual anti-semitic comments, you were strangely silent, as you are on many issues involving injustices that don't match your world view. So thanks, but no thanks, for the "support." Bleats? You're the one making a synonym-for-donkey out of yourself. O.K., now, everybody else, here's an interview with somebody who has interesting ideas about the roots of terrorism. In American Conservative magazine, of all places! Go figure.
    Robert Pape: Over the past two years, I have collected the first complete database of every suicide-terrorist attack around the world from 1980 to early 2004. This research is conducted not only in English but also in native-language sources—Arabic, Hebrew, Russian, and Tamil, and others—so that we can gather information not only from newspapers but also from products from the terrorist community. The terrorists are often quite proud of what they do in their local communities, and they produce albums and all kinds of other information that can be very helpful to understand suicide-terrorist attacks. This wealth of information creates a new picture about what is motivating suicide terrorism. Islamic fundamentalism is not as closely associated with suicide terrorism as many people think. The world leader in suicide terrorism is a group that you may not be familiar with: the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. This is a Marxist group, a completely secular group that draws from the Hindu families of the Tamil regions of the country. They invented the famous suicide vest for their suicide assassination of Rajiv Ghandi in May 1991. The Palestinians got the idea of the suicide vest from the Tamil Tigers. TAC: So if Islamic fundamentalism is not necessarily a key variable behind these groups, what is? RP: The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland. From Lebanon to Sri Lanka to Chechnya to Kashmir to the West Bank, every major suicide-terrorist campaign—over 95 percent of all the incidents—has had as its central objective to compel a democratic state to withdraw.
    (And grad student: have a tasty troll cookie! Click the link!)

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#10)
    by Patrick on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Having served for more than 8 years in the United States Armed Forces, and participating in combat operations, I can say Ernesto is full of shyte IMO. I served to protect the citizens of my country without regard for whether or not they served, without regard for the reasons they did or did not serve. Thank God my country is protected by an all volunteer force, unless of course the Democrats get their way and re-introduce the draft.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Patrick, you are playing the role of yet another mealy-mouthed wingnut weasel. Like I told PPJ...a true patriot who believes in a cause does NOT cite past actions as an excuse to avoid fighting for what they believe in. Put up or shut up. Get down to the nearest recruiting center and prove your mettle. Your not doing so will embolden the terrorists, as they will see that even those who support the war are NOT WILLING TO FIGHT IN IT.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#12)
    by Patrick on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Ernesto, Your spreading the clap with your statements. I did serve, and am too old to go back in a military capacity. Besides, that still doesn't change my opinion that your statement was full of shyte. It is and it's fitting of the likes of you. No surprises there, I don't see why you're so upset by the truth.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    did serve, and am too old to go back in a military capacity.
    Lord help us all, yet more excuses. How old are you? If Uncle Sam won't take you (and I personally know of a couple National Guard grandfathers in Iraq right at this moment)then you can damn sure go as an independent merc. The terrorists look at you and see how soft American society is. You are making us all less safe every time you post here, making up lame excuses to mask your own cowardice.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    I think we have heard that argument before and you lost. would you leave american foreign policy and decisions on war on terror in the hands only of those actively on duty in the military? I doubt it-the numbers who went for Bush were quite high. I am sorry for my silence on many issues of injustice-just like your blindness to the left finding excuses for Islamic terror, I can't be everywhere.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    I can't be everywhere.
    I'm asking for you to be in one place only, Ed. And that is in Iraq, since you think it's winnable if we only do our part. Do your part, Ed. And no more excuses, PLEASE.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    let's see-if you are not in the military, you can't support the war on terror or our Iraq policies because you are not serving. But, on the other hand, you would not support having our policy decisions made solely by the military because the same military overwhelmingly voted for Bush in the last election. who would you have policy decisions involving our military made by?

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#17)
    by John Mann on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Ed wondered: "so who was it that exploded the bombs-the zionists, the mossad or the american neocons. the depths to which the posters here sink in an effort to excuse and offer apologies for terrorism never cease to amaze me. I await the anguished bleats to the contrary." I would think it was the CIA, Ed. I imagine you think it was "Muslim extremists". Do you think either of us will ever be proven right?

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    probably me-don't have much doubt of that. but, I am sure you still think the CIA/Mossad/Neocons/Rove did the WTC as well. keep up with the apologies though-I am sure you would be warned away from a bombing if the jihadists only knew how compassionate you were.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#19)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Ernie, dude, baby doll. Listen up! Like I told you. I have done my turn. You haven't done your turn. Guess what that makes you! Hint: In WWII it was "slacker."

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#20)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Webmacher gets the prize!!! ... and the point. The only way to counter such ignorant inflammatory rhetoric is with sarcasm ... who is apparently lying in the grave next to irony. Then only reason you see christofascists blowing others up, and islamofascists blowing themselves and others up is christofascists don't have belief in their convictions. Have another cookie. Once again we see why there are no (intentionally) funny conservatives.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#21)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Note from the Grammar Police ..... 'your' is NOT the same thing as 'you are'(you're).
    Obvious case: "Ernesto, Your spreading the clap with your statements."
    That should be 'Ernesto - You're spreading the clap (STD?) with your statements.' It doesn't matter who you are or what viewpoint you're spouting, if you can't speak or spell properly and apparently don't know grammatic differences between simple contractions and pronouns - go back to grade school - then enlist.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#22)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    webmacher writes:
    The world leader in suicide terrorism is a group that you may not be familiar with: the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka.
    As they used to say on Laugh In, "very interesting....." Are you telling us that the US is in danger of being attacked by this group? Or are you trying to promote the author's conclusion, and use his supposedly conservative background as a shield?
    to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland.
    The above, of course, is exactly 180 degrees different from what OBL said.
    REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, will the end of the United States' presence in Saudi Arabia, their withdrawal, will that end your call for jihad against the United States and against the US ? BIN LADIN: The cause of the reaction must be sought and the act that has triggered this reaction must be eliminated. The reaction came as a result of the US aggressive policy towards the entire Muslim world and not just towards the Arabian peninsula. So if the cause that has called for this act comes to an end, this act, in turn, will come to an end. So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world
    But why should we believe OBL himself when we have an author who has done (gasp!) exhaustive studies.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#23)
    by Patrick on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Kitt, That was me, thanks for the grammar police lesson, but I beleive the message still got through...."Your" so funny. I suppose that UR is OK, so is AFAIK, or LOL. Anyway you get the picture we could argue all day long about punctuation and grammar and get nowhere. I did mine, you just whine, and if that's the best you can come up with you need work too. Notice, too, not to or two.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    I have done my turn. You haven't done your turn.
    I damn sure did, and I got the 8,100 bucks of VEAP money to prove it, sucka... Wait a minute...8100 bucks for 3 years of my life...hmmm whose the sucka?? ;) PPJ...You are the equivalent of teats on a bull in the war on terror. No, I take that back...you are worse than useless...you are endangering us all by showing the terrorists that the war supporters are not capable of defending our freedoms that they are attacking us for. You, Ed, Patrick, ras, Richard Aubrey, James Robertson...a veritable platoon of keyboard commandos that could be getting the job done in Iraq rather than wasting bandwith with idle internet chit chat. Shame on all you maggots. And no wonder G.W. "AWOL from Cushy Guard Duty" Bush and Dick "Five Deferments for Other Priorities" Cheney are your military role models.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#25)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    who would you have policy decisions involving our military made by?
    Oh let's see...maybe someone who actually went and fought instead of weaseling out, sonrting coke, going AWOL, etc etc. How's your anal cysts doing, Ed?

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Jim, Once again you roll out that quote. Once again you wilfully ignore that crucial word "aggressive". What is your problem here? You know the word is there. I'm sure you understand what it means. I can only conclude that you ignore it because it completely undermines your claim that OBL wants to take control of the entire world. May I remind you, Jim, that YOU are the one who wrote: "The ability to define the meaning of words is the ability to re-write history." May I also remind you that YOU are the one who has dismissed the Downing Street Memo on the basis of a "but" instead of an "and". Surely your nitpicking skills, (so clearly demonstrated in that "debate") will mean that we can now finally see you accepting that OBL's quotation does NOT mean what you claim it means. Words have meanings Jim. Ignoring words doesn't make them go away. Either start explaining what you think OBL meant when he included the word "aggressive" or stop using that quote. We've all seen it before, it's pointless and your endless repetition of it really doesn't do you any favours, old man. Give it up.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Oh, and by the way, Jim - looks like the policy of fighting terrorists in Iraq so we don't have to fight them at home isn't working quite as planned. Please explain to the families of those people on the Underground last Thursday why we invaded Iraq again, would you? None of them are calling for more cluster bombing of Iraqi towns. None of them are calling for people to be disappeared and tortured without reason. Luckily, we Brits aren't a bunch of gunslinging cowboy-wanabees. ("Dead or Alive", anyone?) The world in 2005 is not the Wild West in the 1800s. We're treating the bombings as a criminal act, not as an act of war. Remember that in thirty years of IRA terrorism (supported largely by funds from the USA, I might point out) we at no point considered ourselves at war with Catholicism. The people who blew up the bombs are criminals. They are also dead. Bombing some other group of people who happen to share (in name alone) a religion with them is not only counterproductive, it's illegal.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#28)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Well said Ian. I meant to post yesterday that I was impressed with the British reaction to the attack so far. They are treating the heinous mass murder as a crime, and rightly so. The investigation is in progress, anmd arrests have been made. I am confident that all of those arrested will receive due process and fair trials, and if guilty of participating in the mass murder, will hopefully be sentenced harshly. I wish we would have reacted in similar fashion after the mass murder committed here on 9/11. Instead, our so-called leaders used that crime to gain public acceptance for a war agenda. In other words, used a terrible crime to achieve a political end, and a bloody one at that.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#29)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Ernie - Well congratulations. What branch did you serve in? As for teats, I doubt you've ever milked a cow so I would hate for you to be assigned that task if there was a bull around... Let me give you a hint. A cow has two very large teats. ;-) (Hope that helps.) BTW – The actual insult is “Teats on a boar hog.” But back to the subject. I maintain that continual and undue criticism, such as demands that we name a withdrawal date, etc., etc., help the terrorists in several ways. First, and since you have military experience you will surely understand this, it improves the morale of the terrorists. And we both know that any fighting group with improved morale fights better and kills more of their enemy, some of whom happens to be US military forces. Secondly, it hurts the morale of US forces. And, as an old experienced veteran such as you must know, decreased morale leads to decreased performance. Decreased performance leads to the killing of fewer of the enemy, and to making mistakes which cause their own deaths. Finally, it encourages the terrorists to hang on, hopeful of a political upheaval in the US that will cause us to withdraw. We taught them that in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somali. This causes the war to be extended, and it causes American military, and others, to be killed as a result. Now that you have, after months of challenges, identified yourself as a veteran, though of what branch we don't know, I can only say that it is unusual to find an ex-military person with your positions. In fact, it makes your position even more despicable, less understandable. But hey, someone who can't hold a discussion without calling others "maggots" is probably incapable of critical thinking.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#30)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    the British way of treating the matter does not seem so wise when you read reports of the thousands of British adherents to the fanatical brand of Islam who seem to happily go there way unmolested, all the while collecting welfare payments, in the Country. If these bombers are homegrown, just like Richard Reid and the murderer of Daniel Pearl, the vaunted law enforcement model is not going to work. Sorry to say but arresting people after the fact is what the law enforcement model promotes. The Brits, like the US, failed at prevention by not bothering with the psychopaths in their midst.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#31)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    I forgot to add-you can use all the due process you want with those arrested-it will not make them hate you or want to kill you any less. the newspapers have carried a number of articles re the trial of the killer of Theo Van Gogh in the Netherlands. He is getting plenty of due process and a fair trial. He would still saw off your head as would his compatriots who share his belief. Posters here are strangely silent as to his evil-it seems you want to ignore it because it can't be placed in a Bush box. He wasn't killed because of his love of the Iraq invasion or his countries participation in it-just his thoughts.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#32)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Ian - First, I didn't define "aggressive." If you want to discuss what OBL means by it, I invite you to look at France, and the problems caused by the French demanding that Moslem girls come to school with their heads uncovered. I would further invite you to observe the riots caused by reports that a Koran had been disrespected. Clearly what OBL means is, don't demand that we follow your rules (France) and you must follow ours (Koran incident). In his mind, that is "aggressive." You also ignore the sentence that sets up his last statement. The sentence reads:
    The reaction came as a result of the US aggressive policy towards the entire Muslim world and not just towards the Arabian peninsula.
    So again he is saying, the whole world. I.e. if there are Moslems present there will be a Mosque and the Mosque will define the laws and enforce the rules that Moslems must obey. Secular control is allowed only if it doesn't contradict religious laws. So we can easily see why the terrorists attack. The terrorists are members of a religion that believes in killing their enemies, and the terrorists’ enemies are all non-Moslems. There are probably many Moslem religious leaders who are against this, but they don’t speak out because they are afraid, and the fact that it may serve, in their minds, a larger goal. The conversion of infidels. You can also easily see a comparison to this and the Catholic Church in the Americas in the 14th and 15th centuries. The Church tolerated the extreme acts of the military, which was searching for treasure, so that the Church could "convert" the natives. Of course the Reformation came, and we have had 600 years or so of moderation in the Christian faith. This has not happened in the Muslim world. I have hoped that the Moslems who do not subscribe to the violence, the so-called “moderates,” would step forward and take actions to prevent such attacks as happened on 7/7. This has not happened. And if a liberal and tolerant society such as England can produce people such as this, I see little hope for a settlement that is not “win all or loose all.” Surely other Moslems knew of these killers. Surely other Moslems knew enough to go to the police. That they did not tells us they, at the least, don’t want to get involved, which says they have no loyalty to the larger English society. So you had better get your six-gun, dear Ian. Failing that, a prayer rug. BTW - I ignored your "and-but" comment because it is clear that the words have different meaning and cannot be interchanged.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#33)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    As for teats, I doubt you've ever milked a cow so I would hate for you to be assigned that task if there was a bull around... Let me give you a hint. A cow has two very large teats. ;-) (Hope that helps.) BTW – The actual insult is “Teats on a boar hog.”
    Four, Jim - a cow has four teats, one udder. (Dairy farming childhood) 'Teats on a boar' - haven't heard that in a good while.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    Funny, where I grew up it was 'teats on a bull', cause you know, cows and bulls. OTOH, we sent our bores to congress;-)

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#35)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:12 PM EST
    ...demands that we name a withdrawal date, etc., etc., help the terrorists in several ways....it improves the morale of the terrorists.
    I said nothing about naming a withdrawal date. I said OUT NOW.
    Secondly, it hurts the morale of US forces.
    Nonsense. "OUT NOW" would be the sweetest music to their ears.
    Now that you have, after months of challenges, identified yourself as a veteran,
    Jim, they say the memory is the first to go but I'll be damned if we didn't have a lengthy discussion on our respective military careers last winter.
    ...it makes your position even more despicable, less understandable.
    I feel the same way about you, actually. Sending people to die for nothing but a pack of lies is not my idea of patriotism. And yes, refusing to stand up and fight for your beliefs does in fact make you a maggot in the strictest definition of the word, as used in the military. Hey, let's hear you disparage two-time MOH winner Gen. Butler now...come on, you're on a roll.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:12 PM EST
    Ed...all the comments you make pertaining to the perps of this crime are the same you could make about Tim McVeigh and the right wing militias. And you'd be just as full of dookie, because invading Iraq after 9/11/01 made about as much sense as invading Idaho after 4/19/95. The fact that this attack in London occurred as we are hopelessly mired in our attempt at conquering the Mid-east proves your folly. Your solution is being tried, and it is failing quite miserably...and will only get worse. I told you so.

    Re: Arrests in London Bomb Attacks (none / 0) (#37)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:12 PM EST
    I came here hoping to see a battle of the wits, but I see the intolerant name calling "liberals" all showed up unprepared. Keep up the good work, you “liberals” destroy more in one day then Howard Dean can in three months. :)

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