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Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty

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Posted on Sat Jul 16, 2005 at 06:03:21 PM EST
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Frank Rich has a column in Sunday's New York Times in which he writes that Iraq, not the Wilsons, is the real issue in RoveGate. And,

Seasoned audiences of presidential scandal know that there's only one certainty ahead: the timing of a Karl Rove resignation. As always in this genre, the knight takes the fall at exactly that moment when it's essential to protect the king.

While I tend to follow the subpoenas in analyzing the story, Rich advises you to follow the uranium.

Update: This article in Sunday's New York Times asks:

Is there a tipping point where the presence of Karl Rove would simply not be worth the unwanted attention that goes with it?

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    Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty | 17 comments (17 topical)
    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#1)
    by The Heretik on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    At this point, for Bush it would be best if the Boy Genius resigned immediately. That would be all public relations and I amsure he would continue to advise. However, the stain of Rove will be forever on Bush. The revelation of what Rove has done means a little light for decency and darker times ahead for Bush. When people come to realize the priorities this administration has set and how the dubious means by which it has achieved them, this administration's ability to dictate the terms of discussions in the coming mid term election will for all intents and purposes evaporate. An even more frantic tenor will be even more in evidence for the tenure of Bush's term. This investigation will not end, even with the departure of the largest rat from this sinking ship.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#2)
    by jarober on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    Clearly you aren't watching the news channels. They've mostly moved past this story, and back to things like the Hollaway story. There will be a small amount of sturm and drang on this tomorrow on the Sunday shows, and then it'll drift past.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#3)
    by chemoelectric on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    How can Bush fire Rove without somehow frightening Rove into spilling no beans? These guys have skeletons buried everywhere; Bush can't afford to let Rove out of his sight.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    Clearly you think the 'news' channels are succeeding in crafting the story. I got news for you, James. Rove is flat as a pancake, but then again so is Bush. The clown bus is mired in scandal, and Last Throes just turned into Last Straws.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#5)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    Excellent op/ed by Rich. According to Rich, the administration claimed the various warning signs about the uranium claims were lost "in the bowels" of the bureaucracy. Actually, I've always thought that the source of most of the BS that we've gotten from the Bush administration came from deep in their bowels. Only it came out out Bush's mouth instead of the other end.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#6)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    Right here....from Rich's column {"This case is about Iraq, not Niger. "The real victims are the American people, not the Wilsons." "The real culprit - the big enchilada, to borrow a 1973 John Ehrlichman phrase from the Nixon tapes - is not Mr. Rove but the gang that sent American sons and daughters to war on trumped-up grounds and in so doing diverted finite resources, human and otherwise, from fighting the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11."
    That's why the stakes are so high: this scandal is about the unmasking of an ill-conceived war, not the unmasking of a C.I.A. operative who posed for Vanity Fair."}
    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#7)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    Meant to include this in my previous post; saw this on Netscape's home page:
    Saddam Hussein Charged, Trial to Begin in Days Iraq's special tribunal has laid the first charges against Saddam Hussein for crimes committed under the former president's rule. Court proceedings could begin "within days."
    Now, how g*damned convenient is that?

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    Without an indictment, there's not a chance Rove would leave. With an indictment, it is still doubtful that he would.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    I meant "leave," obviously.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#10)
    by jarober on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    The fact that Rich, TL, (et. al.) have moved along to the "Bush lied about the war" talking points says a lot. It says that even the most partisan lefties recognize that there's no there, there.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#11)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    JR, re: "there's no there, there." That is an excellent description of the evidence Bush presented for invading Iraq. Also you say that we've "moved past this story". Yes, that is why you are commenting about it again.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#12)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:18 PM EST
    The fact that Rich, TL, (et. al.) have moved along to the "Bush lied about the war" talking points says a lot. It says that even the most partisan lefties recognize that there's no there, there.
    'Moved along'.....? Bush DID lie which has always been maintained.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#13)
    by DonS on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:19 PM EST
    "With an indictment, it is still doubtful that he [Rove] would." [leave]. Would, could, any of us imagine that the standard for serving in the WH might become "until and unless convicted"? Are we that far down the road of dictatorship? God, I hope not. Why would anyone then think it would stop at "convicted"?

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#14)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:19 PM EST
    JR...I suppose you are thinking back to Ken Starr's Whitewater witch hunt. So let's go there: Could this morph from an investigation into outing a CIA agent into an investigation of the launching of a war by lying to Congress? The way that Whitewater morphed from investigating a land deal to investigating a BJ? Maybe so...and then the inevitable comparison: which was/is more damaging to the country and world at large?

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#15)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:19 PM EST
    JR, Ever hear of seeing the forest? There was a reason the White House felt it necessary to jeopardize so much in order to smear Wilson: they were about to lose their causus belli. We haven't forgotten.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:19 PM EST
    James talks like a news addict. [insult deleted] The continued idea that things like WAR CRIMES have a day in the press, and then are forgotten, ignores the lack of any statute of limitations on war crimes. It's the gift that keeps on giving, James. And, btw, Fallujah.

    Re: Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty (none / 0) (#17)
    by aw on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:19 PM EST
    Posted by James Robertson at July 16,
    2005 11:40 PM Clearly you aren't watching the news channels. They've mostly moved past this story, and back to things like the Hollaway story. There will be a small amount of sturm and drang on this tomorrow on the Sunday shows, and then it'll drift past.
    They've mostly moved past the this story and back to the Holloway story? What exactly is that supposed to mean? You prefer the Holloway story to that of close to almost 1800 dead troops? Why are you even here?

    Frank Rich: Rove Resignation Is a Certainty | 17 comments (17 topical)