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Monday Night Open Thread

By Jeralyn, Section Blog Related
Posted on Mon Aug 01, 2005 at 03:48:58 PM EST
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My internet service is down - it's been intermittent since Saturday. Comcast installed a new modem today but their main server that handles modem registration is down so I can't get online until that goes back up. Dial-up is way too slow to blog with, so here's an open thread for you. I'll be back whenever the gods at Comcast so decree.

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    Monday Night Open Thread | 24 comments (24 topical)
    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#1)
    by MikeDitto on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    Jeez, and mine's been so good since I turned them in to the franchise authority. It's amazing, we can actually see the TV picture, too!

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#2)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    I just put in a new home system. What a beeyotch to transfer files!

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#3)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    che, try making a compressed 'disk image' of your old HD and xfer that. Then edit as necessary when xfer is complete.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#4)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    Or get a Mac. it is easy to transfer, upgrade, ect. Although I never tried on another system, so I am no expert.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#5)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    Squeaky, the same solution applies to a Mac. The problem is numerous files. I use Macs, xferring files to the new machine is onerous if done individually, disk images are seen as 1 large file, and compressed. But it has always taken a long time to xfer 20GB of data.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    Sounds right. I have had major beeyotchs with the mac but generally you do not even have to know about how to make a disk image, just push a button. Archive and Install or with the new os (tiger) it asks to search for another computers files. When I hear someone is having problems, like Che, I think of what a mess I would be if I had to deal with another system, and I am sympathetic as I am no techie.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#7)
    by MikeDitto on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    To add insult to injury, I'm guessing TalkLeft is sitting in the dark right about now...Major power outage. I'm running the cable modem on the UPS and my iBook will last a good 3 hours on battery. Although I see more lights in TalkLeft's direction, so she might have gotten lucky.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    I'm curious to know what you folks think about Dean's recent speech to College Democrats, in which (amongst other peculiar things) he said the following:
    "The president and his right-wing Supreme Court think it is 'okay' to have the government take your house if they feel like putting a hotel where your house is,"
    This seems to be a reference to the recent Kelo vs. New London case, in which the left-wing justices on the Supreme Court voted to allow seizure of private property for commercial development. The more right-wing members dissented. And none of the justices were appointed by G.W. Bush...so what is Dean talking about? Thoughts? Theories? Snide remarks?

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#9)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    Thoughts? Theories? Snide remarks?
    It's nice to see made-up political rhetoric that doesn't involve comparing anybody to a Nazi, for a change.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    Mike, my house escaped the blackout. But I was at dinner at a friends on Cheeseman when it went dark. We lit a zillion candles, got flashlights, the works. Driving home, I could see it went for blocks and blocks, it was eerie. The power outage lasted over an hour. Unfortunately, the comcast server is still down so I'm still on dial-up. But it beats sitting in the dark.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:49 PM EST
    The NYC blackout was wonderful. People changed the way thay related to one another; everyone slowed down. Street parties, candles, dancing, shared resources were the norm. We thought it should happen once a month.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#12)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    Grad Student - I thought it funny. I again say: There are lots of things that Bush can be criticized for. But the actions of a court of which he has appointed no one is not one of them. Dean looks foolish when he does things like this. And while it is just red meat for the radical base, in the wired world we live in, everyone hears it and all the Demos look foolish. I suspect Hillary will let him ramble until after the mid-term elections, which will he a disaster. She will then have her people put in charge for her Presidential bid.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#14)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    Posted by PPJ aka Jim at August 2, 2005 07:29 AM et al - Just picked this up on the news... A judge in Italy is holding out on returning the terrorist to England that is wanted in conjunction with the bombings. Yep. The criminal justice approach works so fine. Maybe we can send 13 CIA agents and bring him out. In the meantime the Moslem population of southern Europe continues to increase. I wonder what the Moderate Moslems of Italy are saying this morning?

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    Dark Avenger, I'm laughing so hard, I can barely type! That was too good for words anyway.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#17)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    Jim
    Yep. The criminal justice approach works so fine. Maybe we can send 13 CIA agents and bring him out.
    You make it sound as through Hamdi is just hanging out eating pasta. He's in jail and will face terrorism charges. Italy's anti-terrorism laws are in some ways even more strict than America's:
    Italy has banned Islamic burqas under tough terrorism laws that provide two-year jail terms and E2000 ($3200) fines for anyone caught covering their face in a public place.
    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    OK, but it's such an easy task. How will I work off that milkshake?

    Did anyone else happen to see Bolton's reception at the UN last night on Countdown? I guess you could call it a Bronx-cheer sorta' thing.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#19)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    A judge in Italy is holding out on returning the terrorist to England that is wanted in conjunction with the bombings. Yep. The criminal justice approach works so fine. Maybe we can send 13 CIA agents and bring him out. This is blowback for just that kind of attitude above, which resulted in warrants for the arrest of CIA agents for kidnapping within Italy's borders. That's the kind of impulsive, arrogant attitude that f***s up our rep internationally. The CIA abduction was an overly aggressive and poorly executed operation within the borders of a supposed ally (part of the coalition).

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#20)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    That second paragraph above should be part of the block quote by PPJ.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    grad student... in which the left-wing justices on the Supreme Court voted to allow seizure of private property for commercial development. The more right-wing members dissented. Good post. However, as you noticed, not many comments here on this. Most on the left won't cop to a situation like this... like their leader Dean, they'd much rather blame the right!

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:50 PM EST
    Che's Lounge, I agree
    The CIA abduction was an overly aggressive and poorly executed operation within the borders of a supposed ally...
    The insipid go-it-alone attitude of this whacked-out, wild-west, shoot-first-ask-questions-later, administration is coming back to bite them in bu**. The bad part is that people like us will have to pay right along with them.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#23)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    Cheetah, The arrests all over Europe and the ME following the british bombings show that at least some agencies are cooperating with each other. Think they want to trust us after Ridge and Rice outed England's AQ mole with the faux terror alert last summer? (right at the time of the Dem's convention) Or now that any CIA agent is fair game for exposure if they or their relatives piss off Fatherland Security?

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    Posted by grad student: "This seems to be a reference to the recent Kelo vs. New London case, in which the left-wing justices" There are left-wing justices? "on the Supreme Court voted to allow seizure of private property for commercial development." The decision, to non-lawyerly eyes like mine, appears more to state that the SCOTUS cannot overrule the state legislatures in cases that have so much precedent and so many fine-line takings historically. My family's properties were chopped up quite a bit to 'make freeways' that ended up being, in part, commercial developments and the Crystal Cathedral, so I share in the harmed class. "(a) Though the city could not take petitioners’ land simply to confer a private benefit on a particular private party, see, e.g., Midkiff, 467 U.S., at 245, the takings at issue here would be executed pursuant to a carefully considered development plan, which was not adopted “to benefit a particular class of identifiable individuals,” Please point out what in that ruling represents 'left-wing' thought? Is it Socialism because it takes private property for public good? "The more right-wing members dissented." The more right-wing members are all traitors for Bush v. Gore, which has had a dramatically larger impact on America than Kelo v. New London. But to the point, WHY did the rightwing members dissent? Because they are worried about property rights? No, it's mainly because they oppose state power, in favor of a centralizing Federalism, a weakened Constitution, and a tyrannical Executive. If the baby is going to be cut up, they want to be doing the cutting. The 'taking benefiting a particular class of identifiable persons' aspect of the illegal Iraq invasion is so glaring that it's hilarious you pretend to fairness. "And none of the justices were appointed by G.W. Bush...so what is Dean talking about?" The comments made to Young College Republicans are HILARIOUSLY more over-the-top. Red meat arguments like Dean's are in some cases, like this one, wrong, but the boot was on the other foot when Rove told College Rs that Dems wanted to negotiate with terrorists and the rest of that blatantly offensive revisionism. Where was your voice then? Shouting your applause for a far greater calumny against the truth.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#25)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    Juan Cole is at the top of his form today. He connects the dots from Ronald Reagan to Osama Bin Laden to Bush. He begins his story "once upon a time" but this is, unfortunately, no fairy tale.

    Re: Monday Night Open Thread (none / 0) (#26)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:51 PM EST
    roy - Anything that this terrorist knew will be worthless from an intelligence standpoint, thanks to the actions of this judge. It does appear that I have been judging Italy wrong. Che - The deal is between Italy and England. Not the US. Minor detail, but I just wanted to let you know. But wait, are you claiming that Italy is blaming England for our CIA people?

    Monday Night Open Thread | 24 comments (24 topical)