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Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town

By Jeralyn, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Mon Sep 05, 2005 at 08:28:41 PM EST
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Meanwhile, back in Iraq:

Fighters loyal to militant leader Abu Musab Zarqawi asserted control over the key Iraqi border town of Qaim on Monday, killing U.S. collaborators and enforcing strict Islamic law, according to tribal members, officials, residents and others in the town and nearby villages.

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    Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town | 16 comments (16 topical)
    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#12)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:10 PM EST
    Destroy the town, to save the town. What's the difference again between them and us?

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    Do any of you understand that each day this insane government is in iraq bin laden is winning and do you know he is now loved by most people on this earth?..what was bin laden's real aim\goal do you know he made his goal, and why? do you know bin laden is playing what game on you? and what is his new aim?..i know do you?

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    The mayor of New Orleans really should have done something about this.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    I can't think of anything to say other than this is absurd.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#4)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    I wonder if this is related:
    In the northern Turkmen city of Tal Afar, US troops continued their siege. Eyewitnesses said that a guerrilla ambush of a US aonvoy inflicted substantial damage. [US military sources do not acknowledge this report, which may not be well grounded.] US airstrikes on the city killed one resident and a child, and seriously wounded 11 others, including 4 children. All this according to health officias ath the al-Zahrawi Teaching Hospital at Mosul and the Qada' Hospital in Tal Afar. Local eyewitnesses alleged that dozens of persons had actually been wounded by the US airstrikes. They said local and Mosul health teams had not been able to reach the wounded. They also said that Tal Afar remains surrounded and under siege, and that US forces have made many random arrests. Details were difficult to gather given the US security shield around the city.
    link Or this:
    The most important news from Iraq last week was not the much ballyhooed constitutional pact by Shias and Kurds, nor the tragic stampede deaths of nearly 1,000 pilgrims in Baghdad. The U.S. Air Force's senior officer, Gen. John Jumper, stated U.S. warplanes would remain in Iraq to fight resistance forces and protect the American-installed regime "more or less indefinitely." Jumper's bombshell went largely unnoticed due to Hurricane Katrina
    link Both are in NW Iraq Quaim + map May '05

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#5)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    Tell us about the schools.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#6)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    CNN's Jack Cafferty quoted the Boston Globe that about half of all the National Guard's equipment is in Iraq. This includes things like high water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators, stuff that could have saved lives during Katrina. (more on the direct and indirect effects of the Iraq war on New Orleans disaster here). This war is unsustainable. If we start pulling National Guard units back home to resume their traditional role of helping to maintain order after a disaster who is going to replace them (they are about 40% of our troops there)? Even with the National Guard units in Iraq, we are not winning the war. If we pull National Guard units home, where and how are we going to get the troops to replace them? A draft is politically out of the question and the military is only likely to continue having problems meeting its recruiting goals.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    John H - I believe the NG was formed to provide a ready pool of troops to fight a war, although it has been used to restore order within the US, primarily by the Governors of the various states, not the feds.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#13)
    by Al on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:19 PM EST
    Roger, I think it takes terrorists a long time to plan an attack. I doubt they can react quickly to a fortuitous event. That is not to say that they are incapable of attacking, quite the contrary. Given the attacks in other countries, I suspect it's pretty inevitable that the US will be attacked at some point. Besides, the terrorists probably would not want to interfere with the demoralizing effect of the hurricane. Don't think for a moment you are safe from an attack. Rather ask yourself if the infrastructure is in place to cope with one.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:20 PM EST
    Hey people keep a good eye on the next week, and ask bush where bin laden is? if you can fight a war like world war two, don't fight at all. but ask why bush siad if we were not in iraq we would be fighting here?..i know right now of 5 iraqi families who have moved here from iraq to o'side ca, in the last year..why do we have so many iraqis come here now?..the reason paid off for political reasons. the usa will disappear within 20 years along with it you and many others will also disappear.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:20 PM EST
    I believe the NG was formed to provide a ready pool of troops to fight a war, although it has been used to restore order within the US, primarily by the Governors of the various states, not the feds.
    I believe the Louisiana governor had to wait for the NG to get done looking for WMD under Bush's desk before she could activate them.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#10)
    by aw on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:20 PM EST
    I believe the NG was formed to provide a ready pool of troops to fight a war
    I believe the National Guard was formed to protect us here at home, as in guard.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#11)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:20 PM EST
    I have a question that no one has addressed; 1- If I were a terrorist, I would want to attack the US NOW, for maximum disruption 2- There has not been even the slightest attempt Is AQ even capable of attacking the US these days?

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:20 PM EST
    Al Qa'im has been the second largest POGROM in the illegal, immoral, war crime actions of the US Project for a New American Century. As with Fallujah, and Tal Afar in recent days, Al Qa'im was barracaded, and bombed -- terrorizing and potentially decapitating an entire civilian population. In Fallujah, nearly half of all buildings, residential or otherwise, was destroyed. We haven't heard much about Al Qa'im's damages, or the recent pogrom, conveniently hidden from press coverage by the hurricane. ALL OF THESE ANTI-CIVILIAN ACTIONS ARE WAR CRIMES. To blame an entire civilian population for the actions of a few is collective guilt theory, which is a Nuremburg-level crime against humanity. THESE actions are terrorism. THIS action by the Bush Project for a New American Century is terrorism. Practicing terrorism PRODUCES terrorism, and while it isn't surprising that Amerikkkan racists likeBush's buddies and supporters COVET RACE WAR, it is deeply antiamerican and antidemocratic to support terrorism.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:20 PM EST
    "The U.S. Air Force's senior officer, Gen. John Jumper, stated U.S. warplanes would remain in Iraq to fight resistance forces" USPNAC has installed FIFTEEN PERMANENT AIRBASES in (eventually to be) former-Iraq. • That was the purpose of this 'war,' the purpose of this illegal invasion, FROM THE BEGINNING. That is the purpose the invasion held in the PNAC papers, brazenly published on the web. • That was the purpose spoken of by Henry F* Kissinger (the war criminal Bush tried to put in charge of the 9i1 Congressional Coverup) in early 2004, unaware he was being recorded. • That is the ONLY way those permanent airbases can be kept -- by destroying Iraq's sovereignty. Civil war, 'suppressed' by air, producing more civil war, producing an eventual collapse of national gov't. And that is GENOCIDE. Article 2 In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: • (a) Killing members of the group; • (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; • (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Pogroms such as Fallujah and Al Qa'im are entirely illegal under international law, and the UN charter. Bush is a criminal, a traitor, and a genocidist, and no amount of pretty rhetoric about demockery changes that one bit.

    Re: Al Qaeda Takes Over Iraq Town (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:21 PM EST
    Btw, "fighters loyal to..." is spin. It is a shame that you spread the dubious assertion as fact with the headline, TL.

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