These people on the border are desperate so I bet this is a show to get some FED money down there.

They call the U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants "anchor babies" because at age 18 the children can apply to bring other family members here from abroad. It cheapens the whole concept of citizenship," said Tancredo, R-Littleton. "People are coming here simply for the purpose of having a child here and then, because they're the anchor, they can have all the family come in on that child's ticket. ... There are thousands upon thousands of people who are doing it," he said. He cited "surprising" momentum behind the plan. A House bill to make the policy change has 77 co-sponsors.

TL is also wrong: Tancredo doesn't want to repeal the 14th amendment.

But I guess you got yours, to hell with the others, right?

Johnny, um, we're all immigrants here, are we not? My ancestors immigrated from Europe, for example, and yours from Asia albeit many, many centuries before mine...

Johnny - Catch a clue. If the constitution is changed, that is hardly rape.

Kinda works like that. Otherwise you'll have 4 billion plus showing up at your front door. BTW - You being a good Leftie and all, you should be very concerned with the downward pressure that an endless supply of workers places on wages and benefits. Especially those at the lower end of the economic scale.

Some members of the far-left are good at drawing and things like that, but when it comes to thinking leave that to others.

So? Who cares? No one around today was involved. And that includes Johnny and Jim.

Johnny – You are no more Native American than anyone else who was born here. Educate yourself. Read some books. I recommend “The Contested Plains” which details how various tribes flowed across the land, each pushing out the previous “owners.” And the warfare was bloody. The influx of Europeans was just such a movement. And when we stop defending our borders and culture we will join those who lost, just as the NAs lost.

I recommend “The Contested Plains” which details how various tribes flowed across the land, each pushing out the previous “owners.” And the warfare was bloody. The influx of Europeans was just such a movement. And when we stop defending our borders and culture we will join those who lost, just as the NAs lost.

Jim, you are ignorant of native culture. Until you read an anthropology book or ten, put a cork in it.

I wrote “our culture.” Now since we are the USA, I would think the use of the inclusive “our” should allow most of us to understand. Now if I had wanted to specify a sub-culture, such as Black, Hispanic, Appalachian, Cajun, West Texas, etc. I would have done so.

money than what the existing work force is getting will depress wages then your knowledge base of supply and demand is extremely limited

I would tell you again that I am not a Repub, but you would just forget after 5 minutes.

As for culture, yes, if you bring in enough, “our culture” will cease being a melting pot and will be changed into one dominated by the new majority. Now I like our culture, and think all the subcultures are fine. You apparently do not.

When a large, vulnerable group [labor] finds out that the effective majority of the electorate has cut them loose and that the US government is not going to be on their side, because of the acuteness of the problem (lives are destroyed) there's going to an widespread, intense loss of any feeling of belonging. It's not just nickels and dimes. When you have an influx of immigrants at the same time (representing the new standard to which indigenous labor is expected to fall) the alienation is most likely to be expressed as racism against the immigrants.

Subculture: an ethnic, regional, economic, or social group exhibiting characteristic patterns of behavior sufficient to distinguish it from others within an embracing culture or society

“our culture” will cease being a melting pot and will be changed into one dominated by the new majority

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS NOT A VICTIMLESS CRIME
Apologists for illegal immigration like to paint it as a victimless crime.  But in fact, illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens and legal immigrants, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population--the poor, minorities, and children.
Illegal immigration causes an enormous drain on public funds.  The seminal study of the costs of immigration by the National Academy of Sciences found that the taxes paid by immigrants do not cover the cost of services received by them. We cannot provide high quality education, health care, and retirement security for our own people if we continue to bring in endless numbers of poor, unskilled immigrants.  
Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal immigrants willing to work at substandard wages and working conditions depresses the wages of American workers, hitting hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees. Ý
Illegal immigration also contributes to the dramatic population growth overwhelming communities across America--crowding school classrooms, consuming already limited affordable housing, and straining precious natural resources like water, energy, and forestland

Taken from the Child trends data bank

In 2005, Hispanic women had the highest fertility rates, followed by non-Hispanic black women, Asian women, Native American women, and non-Hispanic white women.* Fertility rates for Hispanic women were over 45 percent higher than those for non-Hispanic black women and Asian women (99 births per 1,000 for Hispanic women versus 67 births per 1,000 for non-Hispanic black and Asian women), and more than 65 percent higher than those for Native American women and non-Hispanic white women (60 and 58 births per 1,000 women, respectively). (See Figure 3)
Among Hispanic women, in 2004 (the most recent year for which such estimates are available), Mexican woman had a much higher fertility rate than Puerto Rican and Cuban woman (107 births per 1,000 compared with 68 births per 1,000 and 53 births per 1,000, respectively). (See Table 1)

Taken from the population resource center.

Projections indicate that minorities will make up one-third of the U.S. population by 2015 and nearly half of the population by 2050. The current U.S. population is 72 percent non-Hispanic white; 12 percent African-American; 11 percent Hispanic; and five percent Asian and other.
The minority share of the U.S. population has more than doubled since 1950. By 2050, whites - who were an 87 percent majority in 1950 - will comprise only 53 percent of the U.S. population.
Asians (including Pacific Islanders) are the fastest-growing minority group, having increased by 179 percent since 1980. By 2050, Asians will comprise nearly ten percent of the U.S. population.
Since 1980, the number of Hispanics in the U.S. has grown five times faster than the rest of the population, making the United States the third largest Spanish-speaking country in the world.
At 33.1 million in 1999, African-Americans remained the largest single minority group nationally, yet between 2005 and 2015, Hispanics are expected to pass African-Americans as the country's largest minority group.
More legal immigrants (7.6 million) came to the U.S. from 1991 to 1999 than in any other decade except 1901 to 1910. Approximately 42 percent of these immigrants came from Spanish-speaking countries; 33 percent from Asia; 17 percent from Europe; and five percent from Africa. The government estimated in 1996 that an additional five million immigrants were in the U.S. illegally.

Hispanic Birth Rates, Single Mothers & Government Services
"The government social-services sector has already latched onto this new client base; as the Hispanic population expands, so will the demands for a larger welfare state. Since conservative open-borders advocates have yet to acknowledge the facts of Hispanic family breakdown, there is no way to know what their solution to it is. But they had better come up with one quickly, because the problem is here--and growing.

The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. The Hispanic birthrate is twice as high as that of the rest of the American population. That high fertility rate--even more than unbounded levels of immigration--will fuel the rapid Hispanic population boom in the coming decades. By 2050, the Latino population will have tripled, the Census Bureau projects. One in four Americans will be Hispanic by mid-century, twice the current ratio. In states such as California and Texas, Hispanics will be in the clear majority. Nationally, whites will drop from near 70 percent of the total population in 2000 to just half by 2050. Hispanics will account for 46 percent of the nation's added population over the next two decades, the Pew Hispanic Center reports."