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Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney

Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) has issued his long awaited report , prepared by Democratic staff of the House Judiciary Committee, calling for the censure of Bush and Cheney for their mispresentations about the Iraq War. He has introduced a resolution calling for a full investigation. Chapter Four contains the 16 page legal analysis section. Chapter Five has recommendations. Don't miss Exhibit A containing an explanation of the criminal laws that our leaders may have violated. From the press release (received by e-mail):

"In brief, we have found that there is substantial evidence the President, the Vice-President and other high ranking members of the Bush Administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq; misstated and manipulated intelligence information regarding the justification for such war; countenanced torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment in Iraq; and permitted inappropriate retaliation against critics of their Administration. There is at least a prima facie case that these actions that federal laws have been violated - from false statements to Congress to retaliating against Administration critics.

In addition, Ranking Member Conyers introduced three House Resolutions concerning the serious allegations contained in this Report. The first establishes a Bi-Partisan Select Committee in the House - H.Res. 635; the second calls for the Censure of the President - H.Res.636; and the third calls for the Censure of the Vice President - H.Res. 637.

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    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#1)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 11:31:50 AM EST
    Is this maybe the first real, substantial leak in the dike that might breach the levees around Bush?

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 12:06:17 PM EST
    In the recommendation to establish a bi-partisan select committee, a paragraph of the explanation states:
    In this instance, we recommend that the select committee be comprised of members of the Committee on the Judiciary, Committee on Armed Services, Committee on Government Reform, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and Committee on International Relations. Furthermore, the select committee should not consist of equal numbers of Democratic and Republican Members. (my emphasis)
    Surely Conyers does not expect to get a select committee with a Democratic majority, so what's the point? Is this a typo, and if not, can anyone explain it? Did I miss the explanation, perhaps somewhere on another page?

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#3)
    by rdandrea on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 12:06:46 PM EST
    Not as long as Bush's party still controls both houses of Congress.

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#4)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 12:23:36 PM EST
    rdandrea: Not as long as Bush's party still controls both houses of Congress. That's a debatable scenario. This poll was reported by ABC on Nov 06/05:
    A year out from the 2006 midterm elections, the Democrats hold an extraordinary lead in voter preferences — but far less of an advantage in the practical elements it can take to turn an out-party's hopes into votes: leadership, anti-incumbency and a unified theme. Opportunity is there for the Democrats: Capitalizing on George W. Bush's troubles, the party has a 12-point advantage over the Republicans in trust to handle the nation's main problems, and it leads in nine of 10 individual issues, with some huge gains from three years ago. In the 10th — Bush's trademark, handling terrorism — the Democrats run even.


    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#5)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 12:42:34 PM EST
    I doubt that the outlook for the Repubs has improved much in the past six weeks...

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#6)
    by Che's Lounge on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 12:49:52 PM EST
    Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution. GW Bush April, 2004

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 01:18:15 PM EST
    Che, Bush's statement is probably true, but also irrelevant. Notice the use of "wiretap". That's a specific (physical) method of connecting to telephone lines in order to allow a human to listen to voice conversations. But nobody would describe a computer that's scanning digital content as a 'wiretap'. Bush is counting on people not to recognize the difference.

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 02:05:54 PM EST
    But nobody would describe a computer that's scanning digital content as a 'wiretap'
    I disagree. If a sniffing tool was used to capture packet transfers between IP addresses, this most certainly would be considered a wiretap.

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#9)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 02:20:25 PM EST
    Macromaniac, I'm not a lawyer but I suspect a court might agree with you there. Any lawyerly opinions on this?

    Edger, From the DOJ Website.
    Amendment: Section 216 of the Act amends sections 3121, 3123, 3124, and 3127 of title 18 to clarify that the pen/trap statute applies to a broad variety of communications technologies. References to the target "line," for example, are revised to encompass a "line or other facility." Such a facility might include, for example, a cellular telephone number; a specific cellular telephone identified by its electronic serial number; an Internet user account or e-mail address; or an Internet Protocol address, port number, or similar computer network address or range of addresses. In addition, because the statute takes into account a wide variety of such facilities, amendments to section 3123(b)(1)(C) now allow applicants for pen/trap orders to submit a description of the communications to be traced using any of these or other identifiers.


    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#11)
    by Che's Lounge on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 03:21:03 PM EST
    Cymro, Nothing has changed, by the way GW Bush Same statement It's one lie after another.

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 03:24:47 PM EST
    Macromaniac, That seems pretty black and white... thanks. Can we have charges filed today? ;)

    How the heck did Russ Feingold frag his own foot yesterday?

    Conyers is great. I'm proud to call him a Michigan Congressman. Not too many member in congress that you can say that about. But I propose that we add another to be proud of in 2006: Tony Trupiano. He's running in my district for Michigan's 11th District. He's a local man that I got the pleasure of meeting well before his campaign got rolling. He's a great guy, the kind of guy that would give you the shirt off his back. As a former radio talk show host, he's got many fans that admire him for his conviction and I can tell that conviction is staying put in his run for congress. He's fired up and ready to clean house. He wants REAL RESPONSIBILITY! Not the passive kind of taking responsibility where the penalty is forgotten, but the real down and dirty stuff that today's spineless congress is missing. Support Tony Trupiano for 2006! http://www.tony4congress2006.com

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#15)
    by Aaron on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 09:48:52 PM EST
    [[Dateline 2009] After a speedy trial for treason and crimes against humanity, George W. Bush is decapitated before cheering throngs in the shadow Capitol dome. For the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of corrupt moronic tyrants. A testament to American justice, the image is captured for all time and every child's history book as the disembodied head of Dubyas-Rex leaves its bloody trail rolling down the Capitol steps... that stupid grin still plastered to his face. ------------------------------- And today the cry goes up across America... EXECUTE BUSH NOW!

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#16)
    by chemoelectric on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 10:27:51 AM EST
    Seeking censure is dumb. The only thing good about it is that it will never pass. Being censured would prejudice impeachment in Jesus II's favor. (I call Bush 'Jesus Two', because clearly he sees himself that way.)

    Re: Conyers Calls for Censure of Bush and Cheney (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 09:36:49 PM EST
    Censure? The time for walking on egg shells is over. Conyers should get on the House floor, read the 4th amendment aloud, and start the impeachment. We really need some patriots right now.