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School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassment

by TChris

An elementary school in Brockton, MA suspended a 6 year old for sexually harassing another student. This is the "sexual harassment": "officials said he put two fingers inside a girl's waistband, touching her skin, during a class."

Bugging other students (of either gender) is normal 6 year old behavior. Is it sexual harassment? Not by any meaningful definition of the term.

"[W]hen we think of sexual harassment, we think of somebody who is approaching somebody inappropriately as a sexual threat, and a 6-year-old's probably not capable of that level of plotting," [Elizabeth] Englander said. ... Englander, [a] psychologist, said children are naturally curious and very physical, and almost any kind of touching may be considered "normal" unless it is sexualized or mimicking sexual acts.

The school's policy defines sexual harassment as "repeated, unwanted, or unwelcomed verbalisms or behaviors of a sexist nature related to a person's sex or sexual orientation." A single, innocent touch by a 6 year old doesn't come close to meeting that definition. The school should be ashamed of its overreaction to the incident.

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  • Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#1)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 10:58:31 AM EST
    Just great... If they told the kid their twisted reasons for suspending him they've probably made a six year old neurotic and insecure about sex for life... Yep, he should fit right in to the brave new worlds culture of fear and insecurity. And with luck he might mature emotionally by the time he's 50 or 60... maybe.

    a six year old who touches a peer in the way that he did, on one occasion, should be firmly redirected, told that he needs to keep his hands to himself. He/she needs to be reminded that a person's private parts are the parts of their body that is covered by their bathing suit. The kid needs to be reminded that noone is allowed to touch her/him there without mom's or dad's knowledge and approval, and he/she isn't allowed to touch other people in those places either. A school-aged kid who repeatedly behaves in a way that could be construed as sexualized should be evaluated by a mental health clinician because it is pretty unusual behavior that could be a symptom of, among other things, Bipolar Disorder. Suspension is a ridiculous response.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#3)
    by Dadler on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 11:17:24 AM EST
    What, no prison time? These slaps on the wrist are no, ahem, solution. And how do we know he's not a repeat offender? Holy Christ, what year is this??? Kids are little psycho-sexually developing creatures. And at 6, please, it's curiosity time to the nth degree. Teaching a kid not to disturb other children, or grab them, or whatever, that's fine and should be done. But applying a charge like "sexual harassment" to a child who has no genuine conception of sex OR harassment -- only a child's developing sensibility -- is just, pardon my Swahili, f*cking beyond absurd in this district. It's imcompetent, and certainly NOT in the best interest of either child.

    BTW, when I referred to repeatedly sexualized behavior, I was referring to behaviors that are not just the result of normal developmental sexual curiousity. Thanks for the reminder, dadler.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#5)
    by Dadler on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 11:21:32 AM EST
    And hell, I used to drop things off of my desk on purpose, just so I could look up my teacher's dress in grade school. What the hell would I be charged with today?

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 11:39:22 AM EST
    Has there ever been a worse time to be a kid? Does zero tolerance include zero tolerance for common sense? I wonder about school administrators sometimes.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#7)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 11:44:27 AM EST
    Does zero tolerance include zero tolerance for common sense? Seems that way sometimes doesn't it? It should include zero tolerance for zero tolerance.

    Seems way over the top to me too, but, to be fair, I think we need more info. Was he trying to get his hand in her panties and perhaps grab her privates like he saw his older brother do with his girlfriend or saw in a movie or something? Or was he just trying to snap her waist band or give her a wedgie or some other benign act? Absent any such info, shouldn't we just accept the teacher's interpretation of what he/she saw the kid do? Although...if this 6 year-old's teacher is anything like my 6 year-old's insidiously feminist teacher, I would question her interpretation.

    Kdog, things have been worse, and "leftie" child labor laws have made the difference. From The History Place, Child Labor in America 1908-1912:
    One of the spinners in Whitnel Cotton Mill. She was 51 inches high. Has been in the mill one year. Sometimes works at night. Runs 4 sides - 48 cents a day. When asked how old she was, she hesitated, then said, "I don't remember," then added confidentially, "I'm not old enough to work, but do just the same." Out of 50 employees, there were ten children about her size. Whitnel, N.C.
    Check the link. The photos are an astonishing of where we've been, and could be again.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 12:13:31 PM EST
    This is just stupid and ridiculous. I think it will just create serious neurotic "hangups" re sexuality in the kid. When I was in grade 1, which I think was about the same age as this kid is now, it was a fairly common occurence for us boys and girls to go into the woods beside the playground and "play doctor". You show me yours and I'll show you mine type stuff. It's not a big deal or deviancy except only to the terminally insecure. It's normal ordinary human development and childhood curiosity. It will take this kid forever to "unlearn" that being interested in girls won't result in heavy handed sanctions and ostracism. The school administrator needs to "chill" and maybe get laid. Jeeze!

    et al... Isn't this the obvious outcome of the "politically correct" world all the libs have strived for all these years?

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 12:24:16 PM EST
    obvious outcome of the "politically correct" world all the libs have strived for Is that the flip side of "why do you guys blame bush for everything?"

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#13)
    by kdog on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 12:27:05 PM EST
    I hear ya pun...but I was more referring to the general trend of adults sucking all the fun and life experience out of being a kid. Today's kids don't have to work in factories in horrendous conditions (thank goodness!), but they can't interact and "be kids" without some heavy handed school official punishing them. And they can't ride their bikes without a helmet. They can't play in abandoned lots, they can't roam the neighbor hood unattended, etc, etc, etc. It's sad. I look at my young nieces and nephews and think that these poor kids won't get to have half the fun and life experience I had as a kid...because of heavy handed adults in their lives. Absent all the facts, it looks like they made this kid out to be a criminal just for being a kid. That's the freakin' crime.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#14)
    by kdog on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 12:41:57 PM EST
    BB...a little left side pc bull, a little right side zero tolerance law and order bull. Put 'em both together and you got a lot of bull brother.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#15)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 12:43:27 PM EST
    made this kid out to be a criminal just for being a kid This entire culture of fear and insecurity that has developed in the past 5 or 6 years does exactly the same thing to adults, too.

    I can't believe they're letting this pedophile off the hook with a mere suspension. Where's Bill O'Reilly when you need him?

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#17)
    by Dadler on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 12:53:36 PM EST
    BB, This is one school, out of how many thousands? PC is nothing but a red herring, a term created by the right, to assauge ignorance and prejudice by passing it off as victiminzed free speech. This is a case of a particular school with a particularly imcompetent system of judgement and punishment. There are other schools where you will find the opposite -- bullying and taunting that goes unpunished. It's a large world, a large country, and tossing around the term PC as some kind of easy answer is just not gonna cut it. In my humble opinion. Peace, my fellow free American.

    Just for fun:
    Politically Correct Another urban myth of our times is that the concept of politically correct was invented in the 1990s by conservatives who wished to lambaste liberals.


    sarc, you make a good point. The term has a long history. Wikipedia adds, though:
    The term again became popular in the early 1990s as part of a conservative challenge to curriculum and teaching methods on college campuses in the United States (D'Souza 1991; Berman 1992; Schultz 1993; Messer Davidow 1993, 1994; Scatamburlo 1998). Conservatives picked up and once again transformed the notion of political correctness to claim that a left-wing movement based in liberal academic circles was attempting to create a new doctrinaire political orthodoxy through social engineering which included changing words and phrases that some groups found offensive.


    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#20)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 01:16:52 PM EST
    changing words and phrases that some groups found offensive war=peace lies=truth fascism=democracy slavery=freedom etc., etc. ?

    pun, probably some truth to that. Gotta say, while I use wiki alot, it's written, essentially, by you and me. Which is to say, he who writes the history/definition/whatever, creates the history/def/whatever. Here's another cite:
    [Politicaly correct] Gradually entered the language beginning with the feminist and other left-wing movements of the 1970s. Used (first?) in H. V. Morton's In the Steps of St. Paul (1936). 'To use such words would have been equivalent to calling his audience 'slaves and robbers'. But 'Galatians', a term that was politically correct, embraced everyone under Roman rule...'.


    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#22)
    by Al on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 01:34:32 PM EST
    I just hope the parents of that little boy, and those of the little girl, are normal human beings who will tell them the teacher is insane. The girl needs to be considered too; who knows what twisted idea of sexuality she gets from this "protection against harassment".

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#23)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 01:42:57 PM EST
    Al, It does mess up all concerned doesn't it? The boy, The girl. And how about the other kids - what kind of ideas, thoughts, and fears do they take away from this? Even the school staff, teachers, administrators, are probably so terrified of lawsuits they try to be ultra conservative. As the '60s taught us - "Cool it, man... Too many hangups" Welcome to Fear and Loathing in 21st Century America.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#24)
    by rdandrea on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 02:18:34 PM EST
    Does this mean he'll have to register as a sex offender?

    No.

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#26)
    by nolo on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 02:48:54 PM EST
    Sarcastic Unnamed One, I don't think the use of the term "politically correct" in the 1936 quote you cite carries the same meaning that the term tends to carry now. In other words, I don't think it means, or was intended to mean, "calculated not to offend" or "term that is consistent with an ideological orthodoxy." Indeed, I doubt the author was consciously using the words as a unitary phrase. Instead, it seems much more likely that the author was saying that the term "Galatians" was a politically correct term for the group in the sense of its being an appropriate way of referring to a group of people who were considered citizens or residents of the same geopolitical entity (i.e., the Roman province of Galatia). Kind of like it would be politically correct (but not necessarily "politically correct" or "politically incorrect") to refer to citizens and residents of the state of Ohio as "Ohioans."

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#27)
    by nolo on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 02:58:49 PM EST
    Here's an encyclopedia article making the exact same point about the H.V. Morton quote (as well as other so-called "early" uses of the term "politically correct") that I made in my earlier post. Moral of the story? Context is important.

    Fair enough nolo, the meaning of the phrase has evolved. As an aside, the similarity of its history to that of the phrase "neocon" is striking, but OT I'm afraid...

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#29)
    by John Mann on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 05:02:46 PM EST
    Seems way over the top to me too, but, to be fair, I think we need more info. Was he trying to get his hand in her panties and perhaps grab her privates like he saw his older brother do with his girlfriend or saw in a movie or something? Or was he just trying to snap her waist band or give her a wedgie or some other benign act?
    Good point. It might be useful to have the proper authorities torture him until he reveals his true motive. Nothing extreme, mind you, maybe just a few waterboard sessions.

    Ok. So how stupid is this? I mean seriously. Can you really suspend 6 year old of sexual harassment? In my opinion, I don't think so. The kid probably has no idea what sexual harassment even means! For me, it would be extremely hard to explain to my 6 year old that what he did was sexual harassment. He's is 1st grade! I think that they should have pulled the kid aside and told them what he did was wrong and not to do it again, but not to suspend him for 3 days! It's Rediculous!

    Re: School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassme (none / 0) (#31)
    by nolo on Thu Feb 09, 2006 at 07:10:36 PM EST
    Sarcastic, my point was that the phrase "politically correct" -- in the sense of idiomatic expression, as opposed to grammatically appropriate association between two words in a sentence -- is of very recent vintage. The fact that the words "politically" and "correct" have appeared next to one another in texts that pre-date the birth of the idiomatic expression "politically correct" tells us nothing of the idiomatic expression's history or evolution. There was no "phrase" that was "evolving" in 1793, or in 1943, or whenever these prior pairings of the words "politically" and "correct" happened to appear in texts. All that being said, I bet I'd agree with you regarding the eerie similarities in the evolutions of "neocon" and "politically correct" in popular discourse.

    Was he trying to get his hand in her panties and perhaps grab her privates like he saw his older brother do with his girlfriend or saw in a movie or something?
    Having been a six-year-old, I highly doubt this. Even if he had, however, what's your point? You still can't ascribe sexual motives to it. He's a child.

    I mean, it sounds like you're saying the worst case is that the kid was emulating a movie or a sibling. Am I missing the "gotcha" factor here? Still not seeing how that merits a suspension.

    Good point scar, I guess my understanding is that "sexual harassment" is, essentially, a method of aggression, intimidation and/or dominance. If the kid was actively trying to intimidate her through these actions of a sexual nature - whether or not he is himself sexualized or even understands why the actions are intimidating, but he just knows that they are intimidating - well, now we've got a problem. Whether this kind of aggression merits a suspension or not is certainly debatable, but my only point was that an adult witnessed the act, and deemed it sexual harassment. The adult may well be wrong, the kid may well have been just kidding around as I said, but none of us were there so what do we know? I guess what it all boils down to is some people can't believe a 6 year-old can be capable of intentional aggression, intimidation and/or dominance through the use of actions viewed as sexual in nature. I disagree.

    I think that the real point here is not over reactive school officials but pervasive male bias in our culture. If it was a female student who initiated the touching would she have been suspended? In fact, one report stated the girl acutally did initate the touching and the male child reciprocate. We should also consider that this six year old "perpetrator" was black. We are at apoint where it only takes an allegation to find a male guilty.

    My son was suspended (none / 0) (#36)
    by jenn on Fri Jan 26, 2007 at 04:38:55 PM EST
    Not sure if this is still alive topic or not, but my 6 year old was suspended yesterday for touching a girls butt. They see a "pattern" with his past behavior which consisted of...Blowing kisses, and his pants falling down exposing the band of his underwear. If that is what is considered a history then these schools need a wake up call. I had the pleasure of DCF visiting today telling me my son is now labeled a Juvenile Sexual Harrassment Predator until the case is closed and dropped if that. The girls parents are not even concerned about what happened and was told they said there kids. No big deal. It's a freakin 6 year old for gosh sakes. What is this world coming too. So now we have the pleasure of having a police officer coming by bor a "talk". I will know in 30 days what is going to happen.

    Pathetic, it really is and pisses me off.


    jenn.... (none / 0) (#37)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 26, 2007 at 04:54:43 PM EST
    That is madness, pure madness.  Best of luck in fighting it.

    "Juvenile Sexual Harassment Predator"....I almost cannot believe it. Has the whole world gone mad?

    Please keep us posted, and again....best of luck, I hope sanity prevails.

    Agree with kdog here, Jenn (none / 0) (#38)
    by Edger on Fri Jan 26, 2007 at 05:10:40 PM EST
    What is happening to your son is absolute craziness. It sounds like the school and DCF are going over the edge satisfying some warped ideas of so called "morality" here that seems to me similar to insane extremes of almost "PC" behavior of a "wingnut" variety, probably out of fear of... who knows what. Don't back down or let them put you on the defensive, if you can avoid it. Get people on your side, and get in their faces aggressively and turn it around, question their morality, and put them on the defensive, make them try to justify themselves and they'll end up looking ridiculous. Maybe try to enlist the help of local papers and media if you can? I don't know what else to suggest except be aggressive... best wishes.

    Jenn (none / 0) (#39)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jan 26, 2007 at 05:16:46 PM EST
    What Kdog said.

    Ever since I can remember my Dad's been saying "The world is going to hell in a handbasket" and I think this is a good example of what he meant.

    Good luck.

    Thank You (none / 0) (#40)
    by jenn on Fri Jan 26, 2007 at 05:21:09 PM EST
    Thank you. I am making an appointment Monday to discuss this and if I don't get what I want, you can bet the local news station will be notified and all heck will break loose. The issues here are really his past they call it. They have in his file that he exposed himself, when in fact his pants were falling, and the teacher caught it when it was down exposing the band of his underwear. The blowing kisses is noted as him trying to kiss girls when in fact I was told by his teacher that he is blowing kisses. What is the harm in that? Yes it disrupts class, I am not fighting that, I am fighting what he is being branded. Do they know the damage this can cause? Do they not understand that this will be a permenant record? Do they not know that these kids don't know what sexual harrassment is? Get real. They are at their time when they are exploring. Yes, they have learned not to touch others, it's gonna happen but to go this measure is just insane. Suspended a 6 year old and label him a sexual predator. I have never been this disgusted. Makes me consider home schooling to get away from all this madness.

    I will keep ya updated. I actually just did a search to see if there were any more cases like his and that's how I found this site. It's nice to know I am not the only one these schools are taking advantage of.

    By the way, the schools definition of Sexual Harrassment is:  as defined in School Board Policy 509, including any of the following
    actions or activities: unwanted, repeated, verbal or physical sexual behavior which is
    offensive and objectionable to the recipient, causes discomfort or humiliation and interferes
    with school performance. Examples include touching breasts or buttocks, verbal comments,
    touching oneself in front of others, and/or spreading sexual rumors.

    Shouldnt there be an exclusion like Kindergarden through 2nd grade or something?

    Go for it Jenn (none / 0) (#41)
    by Edger on Fri Jan 26, 2007 at 05:28:38 PM EST
    Get mad. It sounds like they bit off more than they can chew, and they're about to run face first into a hurricane they never saw coming when they crossed you. Good luck...