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Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Documents

By Jeralyn, Section Terror Detainees
Posted on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 06:35:00 PM EST
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The Pentagon today released 2,600 pages of documents pertaining to the Guantanamo detainees to the Associated Press. Amnesty International responds:

"Though we have not reviewed the 2,600 pages, it would be prudent to say that the Pentagon would not have released these documents if they were not innocuous or previously released in some form. Nevertheless, Amnesty International welcomes today's actions, as even the seemingly minor details in these documents may help shed light on the secrecy surrounding the detainees' cases. We do not believe the release of these documents indicates a fundamental shift by the Bush Administration towards transparency. Amnesty International continues to be very concerned about the detainees' lack of due process which violates fundamental human rights law, to say nothing of our highest values as a nation."

The AP reports:

A review of the documents indicated that they contain no major revelations about high-profile detainees, but offered more insight into who has been detained and why they ended up in the custody of U.S. authorities. Most of the men said they were innocent and would pose no threat if set free.

Here is the Defense Department announcement.

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    Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Documents | 14 comments (14 topical)
    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#1)
    by jimcee on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 07:35:01 PM EST
    "Though we have not reviewed the 2,600 pages, it would be prudent to say...". Not to put too fine of point on it but wouldn't it be more prudent to have reviewed the 2600 pages before they gave thier opinion. These guys would make really poor poker players because they are too easy to read and they accidently have shown thier hand. It is obvious that no matter what those pages reported Amnesty International would have had the same response.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 07:45:16 PM EST
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    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 07:48:05 PM EST
    Did I miss Amnesty's endless demands for documentation of saddam's detainees? Am I missing their good works for those withering in the Cuban gulags? Was I away when Amnesty demanded an accounting of Kim Jong Ils disappeared? Amnesty International's word once meant something. Now, like so many organizations, it has been coopted by the modern progressive liberal left and has developed a distracting myopia that has reduced its effectiveness to something a little less than a derisive mention and a chuckle over beers in the dorm room. Tyranno

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#4)
    by jondee on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 10:36:13 PM EST
    Tyr - Right on schedule with the same (very) short list of dictatorshps and extreme human rights violators that the talk radio educated are allowed to talk about. Saddam, Cuba, and North Korea. Yeah, I think you were "away" frat boy ; as a matter of fact, I bet you had to do a triple check just make sure you spelled the organizations name right. When the hell did A.I "mean something" to you?

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 10:56:33 PM EST
    I have no idea what is really happening now at gitmo and bush has no idea of what to do. what is bush doing? and why is it that people don't get it? about gitmo and ask who is doing who and why?

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 11:09:38 PM EST
    Posted by jimcee April 3, 2006 08:35 PM "Though we have not reviewed the 2,600 pages, it would be prudent to say...".
    These guys would make really poor poker players because they are too easy to read and they accidently have shown thier hand. It is obvious that no matter what those pages reported Amnesty International would have had the same response.
    They'd be poor poker players? This from the terminal sucker at the table. Ya know, jimcee, if you're gonna continue to have these ridiculous positions that aren't supported by the facts, the law, or the evidence, would it kill ya to learn how to spell their, for Christ sake.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#7)
    by HK on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 01:55:39 AM EST
    Yes, I do think it might have been prudent for Amnesty to have read the document first and then commented. But do we really think that they would have come to a different conclusion if they had done so? Amnesty was right to be sceptical. And perhaps by commenting before reading the documents they have made clear that the world won't be duped by Bush even if America has been and that he is living up to the very low expectations we have of him. After all, it would have been meaningless if after reading the documents Amnesty had said that it was just what they expected. It would have hardly been a stunning prediction then.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 06:36:41 PM EST
    Jim- to be fair I think that AI does keep tabs on Cuba and the like, but our press does not pick up on these items.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 06:45:01 PM EST
    Jim- to be fair I think that AI does keep tabs on Cuba and the like, but our press does not pick up on these items.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#10)
    by jimcee on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 09:11:00 PM EST
    Hey Chucklyone, Style before substance, hey bub?

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 09:32:51 PM EST
    Posted by jimcee April 4, 2006 10:11 PM Hey Chucklyone,
    Style before substance, hey bub?
    That makes you 0-2.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#12)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 09:46:57 PM EST
    No, youre not a troll jimcee.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Apr 05, 2006 at 02:29:50 PM EST
    Did I miss Amnesty's endless demands for documentation of saddam's detainees? Am I missing their good works for those withering in the Cuban gulags? Was I away when Amnesty demanded an accounting of Kim Jong Ils disappeared?
    Wow Tyranno, you REALLY showed your ignorance on this one. There's nothing like blurting out the first ill-informed, O'Reillyesque thing that leaps to mind to expose your glaring lack of knowledge for all to see. Why on earth wouldn't you bother to spend just thirty seconds on Amnesty's site to see what they have actually been doing in the past 40 years before making such an absurd comment? I'm sure you won't let the real facts sway you away from your Fox-Approved bullsh*t, but just in *case* you're interested, a quick search of their site shows that Amnesty has published over 100 documents on torture around the world so far this year. Including extensive campaigns against Saddam's torture in Iraq before Bush even came to the White House. And that's just the ones in English. You'll be pleased to know that your boss's favourite "baddies-du-jour" Cuba and South Korea are both included in current campaigns, but you might be surprised to hear that Amnesty is also helping to defend human rights in some other (non-American-occupied) countries that you might not ever have heard of, like Bangladesh, Peru, Cote d'Ivoire and Honduras.
    Amnesty International's word once meant something. Now, like so many organizations, it has been coopted by the modern progressive liberal left
    Are you really just saying that because you are unwilling to deal with the fact that America now sits on the "embarrassing" end of Amnesty's campaigns, thanks to the actions of your beloved government? You talk about Amnesty being co-opted, I disagree. I'm firmly of the opinion that Amnesty almost certainly continues to do pretty much what it has done for the past 40 years - using a mix of high-profile media campaigns and tireless letter-writing by individual volunteers to shine a light into some of the world's darkest, most hopeless places in the hope of marginally improving the lives of less fortunate people. Isn't that the sort of thing that America as a nation USED to like to be associated with? Oh no. According to you, all that dedicated work by hundreds of thousands of people over 40 years was really just a cunning front for a bunch of dodgy lefties with a bizarre aversion to seeing people beaten to death in secret prison cells. How dare they seek to apply their twisted standards to the USA? Don't they understand we're the good guys? We torture for FREEDOM! Your dismissal of Amnesty and a host of other global organisations as having been co-opted by lefties is fashionable, of course, thanks to Mr. O'Reilly and Mr. Limbaugh, but perhaps a more valid explanation is that the US political centre of gravity has been systematically been shifted in favour of a brand of extreme, no-limits neo-corporatism, dressed up as a commitment to "freedom" and "democracy". Amnesty didn't seek to redefine torture to make it legal. Amnesty hasn't set up a network of secret prisons and a programme of extraordinary renditions. Amnesty hasn't had its employees filmed grinning and laughing next to the bodies of those it has killed. The United States of America has. Amnesty hasn't changed, America has.

    Re: Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Doc (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Apr 05, 2006 at 07:57:01 PM EST
    Posted by Jondee April 4, 2006 10:46 PM
    No, youre not a troll jimcee.
    No, not at all.

    Amnesty Int'l Responds to Release of Gitmo Documents | 14 comments (14 topical)