Thomas Jefferson wasn't a great speaker either.

You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.

Wow, this is pettiness and ignorance to the extreme.

By inventing 'suicider' Bush is able to castrate the very serious act of bravery where someone would sacrifice his or her life in the fight to get occupiers out of their country

I think your values are totally out of whack.

This is major propaganda. The suicide bombers have relatively no impact on civilian or military deaths. Bush is not misinformed, he is telling us a lie. The clever term that Bush uses to describe the enemy is meant to sway public opinion. It is not a misspoken word or malapropism, but a intentionally chosen invented word. The tipoff is that he has recently been using it over and over as a buzz word. Suicider brings to mind dead ender, loser, or someone on the skids. Also the cute factor is disarming. It is something a five or six year old child might come up with. The correct term suicide bomber is much more fierce and scary. By inventing 'suicider' Bush is able to castrate the very serious act of bravery where someone would sacrifice his or her life in the fight to get occupiers out of their country.

You forget that those killed while on a jihad are immediately whisked off to paradise and given 72 virgins to ease their loss of life on earth.

This is something children can grasp.

The Week (May 6, 2005, p.18): "Born again Christians have become so aggressive in proselytizing at the U.S. Air Force Academy that 55 cadets have filed formal harassment complaints. In response, the academy has begun a course called 'Respecting the Spiritual Values of All People,' though some evangelical cadets are questioning the need to take it ... [saying,] 'We are in the majority, why do we have to do this?'" On June 3, 2005, The Week (p.16) summarized a Los Angeles Times report that the academy "has essentially established evangelical Christianity as its official religion." The academy's head chaplain preaches that "those not 'born again' will burn in the fires of hell. ... Younger cadets who skip the prayer services have been hunted down by seniors, who call them 'heathens.' Even the football coach has joined in, putting up a banner in the locker room urging his players to join 'Team Jesus Christ.' ... A team of visiting chaplains from Yale Divinity School found a shocking level of religious intolerance on campus." USA Today (June 22, 2005, p.3): "An Air Force Academy chaplain who criticized a 'pervasive evangelical bias' on campus among born-again Christian commanders, chaplains, and cadets submitted her resignation from the Air Force. ... Capt. Melinda Morton, a Lutheran minister ... [said] she has had 'no indication that either the academy or the Air Force is going to take the very difficult and necessary steps to bring the academy back' from unconstitutional mixing of religion and state."

The suiciders have an exact promise codified in their religion, and taught by their religious "leaders" that if they kill someone who is guilty of nothing more than not being a Moslem, or even of a different sect, they will have paradise.

And while physical courage is often on very impressive display in war, you almost never see moral courage, which is very different, because it requires standing up to the crowd--often opposing those around you--and in that opposition being shunted aside.

SD - Speaking of links, no. Your approval wouldn't come if I delivered it written in stone.

Iraqis in the town of Haditha said U.S. Marines deliberately killed 15 unarmed Iraqi civilians, including seven women and three children. One young Iraqi girl said the Marines killed six members of her family, including her parents. "The Americans came into the room where my father was praying," she said, "and shot him." On Wednesday, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said the accounts are true. Military officials told NBC News that the Marine Corps' own evidence appears to show Murtha is right.

Are pre Afghanistan/Iraq suicide bombers brave?

The members of the Stern Gang were ardent students of violence..... As the most extreme wing of the Zionist movement in Palestine.... they were morally and tactically unfettered by considerations of diplomacy or world opinion. On January 12, 1947.... they exploded a powerful truck bomb in the central police station in Haifa, resulting in 144 casualties. Three months later, they repeated the tactic in Tel Aviv, blowing up the Sarona police barracks (5 dead) with a stolen postal truck filled with dynamite.

But I pretty much view suicide as a cop out.

Car bombers I do not hold the same as suicide bombers

Posted by BB May 25, 2006 01:24 PM ... Being an ex-Air Force Bomber,

I believe there were some inconsistencies. Being an ex-Air Force Bomber,

Don't you be a tellin, There ain't such a spellin. I tells you what's English cos I'm the Decider

QUESTION: Could I ask both of you which missteps and mistakes of your own you most regret? BUSH: Saying, "Bring it on"; kind of tough talk, you know, that sent the wrong signal to people. I learned some lessons about expressing myself maybe in a little more sophisticated manner, you know. "Wanted, dead or alive"; that kind of talk. I think in certain parts of the world it was misinterpreted. And so I learned from that.

deanyb: suicide, suicider, suicidest

suicide, suicider, suicidest

These are desperate people who either through loyalty, idealism, religious extremism will give their life for a cause.

The world sees our nation as being run by a moron. And it ain't no innaccurate perception

chuck up.

Car bombers light the fuse and walk away.

And that 219,000 hits are still out here, Jondee.

When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it."

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