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Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza

Fox News reporter Steve Centanni and a cameraman from New Zealand were ambushed and kidnapped in Gaza today.

Masked Palestinian gunmen ambushed a car carrying a Fox News crew in Gaza City on Monday and kidnapped two journalists, according to witnesses and Fox. "We can confirm that two of our people were taken against their will in Gaza," Fox News said in a statement.....

The men and their bodyguard were parked near the headquarters of the Palestinian security services when two trucks filled with masked gunmen pulled up and boxed them in, the Fox employee said. The gunmen took the two reporters from the sports utility vehicle, which was marked "TV," and drove away, he said.

The pattern has been to release those kidnapped unharmed.

Several foreigners have been kidnapped in Gaza in recent months with their abductors demanding jobs from the Palestinian Authority or the release of people from Palestinian jails. All those kidnapped have been freed within hours without harm.

Think good thoughts for their speedy release.

Update: The cameraman is Olaf Wiig of New Zealand. Negotiations are underway for their release.

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  • Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#1)
    by ras on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 12:09:45 AM EST
    The pattern has been to release those kidnapped unharmed. Just ask Daniel Pearl. Or the children of Beslan. What does the word "pattern" mean to you?

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#2)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 12:26:27 AM EST
    ras, read the article next time before you begin bloviating: "Several foreigners have been kidnapped in Gaza in recent months with their abductors demanding jobs from the Palestinian Authority or the release of people from Palestinian jails. All those kidnapped have been freed within hours without harm."

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#3)
    by ras on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 12:39:53 AM EST
    Yes, Ernesto, the fine and goodhearted kidnappers, of a one with the killers of the children of Belan, deserve the understanding of any sap vain enough to repeat their drivel for the rush of sanctimony it brings to his belly. Enjoy.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 01:12:27 AM EST
    Of a one with? That's like saying all Israelis are the same as the ones that ordered the targeted assassinations of political leaders they don't like. Well there you have it. Ras doesn't read, he just bloviates. Next!

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#5)
    by jen on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 04:04:37 AM EST
    I hope they are released soon.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#6)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 05:57:50 AM EST
    Agreed Jen. Lets hope Ernesto and TL's are right and they are released. One should consider however the tactics of the enemies of Isreal when playing the moral equivalency card as Ernesto has already done in this thread.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#7)
    by soccerdad on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 06:09:11 AM EST
    One should consider however the tactics of the enemies of Isreal when playing the moral equivalency card as Ernesto has already done in this thread.
    WTF - just a bs pre-emptive way of trying to make it appear that the Palestinians are always worse than Israelis so please dont examine Israeli actions. The israelies kill their "enemies" with american missles fired from american made helicopters including old people in wheelchairs Yeah I know extrajudical assassination by Israel are no where near as bad as ..... [fill in the blank]

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#8)
    by Che's Lounge on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 07:47:49 AM EST
    The fighting should not stop with the cease fire. There is still a huge amount of violence going on in the occupied territories. We saw what happened to the Lebanese in one month. It's still on going in Gaza on a daily basis. To their credit, FOX was covering it. The field reporters deserve more credit anyway. Any idiot can read a teleprompter.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sailor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 07:51:25 AM EST
    One should consider however the tactics of the enemies of Isreal
    and vice versa.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#10)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:26:17 AM EST
    Soccerdad and Sailor always there to play the moral equivalency card. OK, I'll take the bait. Isreal does have a superior military. Why? Why do you think a mostly European culture chooses to invest a huge amount of their GDP on their military? Why? Is it because if they don't they will be inialated by the millions of Arabs that think they have no right to be there? If they have the superior military why don't they carpet bomb every palestinian and lebonese village they can to kill as many as they can? Is it possibly becaus unlike their enemies they aren't cold heated murderers? Is it maybe because unlike their enemeies they acknowledge the right of their neighboring states to exist? If the tables were turned and Isreal had the weaker military what would happen? You know the answer you just choose to ignore the reality of the situation. Does Isreal screw up, act rashly etc... Of course they do. However why are they even acting at all? If Hezzbollah and Palestinians stopped fighting tomorrow would isreal attack them? Again you know the answer.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#11)
    by Peaches on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:34:57 AM EST
    Slado,
    Why do you think a mostly European culture chooses to invest a huge amount of their GDP on their military? Why?
    They don't. The US makes this investment. It is a debt that cannot be paid off by Israels relatively small GDP. It is also an investment that the US cannot afford to keep making indefinatley. Eventually, the money will run out. At that time, it might be better for Israel to have less enemies and more friends in the world besides the US.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#12)
    by Peaches on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:36:59 AM EST
    Oh, and I think you meant annihilated

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#13)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:39:13 AM EST
    Ok Peaches. Good point. So they spend more then they can even afford on their military. Same questions. Why? If they didn't what would happen? You know the answer. What would have happened in 1967, 1972 etc... if they hadn't been militarily superior. Would they even be there? Here's what their enemies had to say today... "We tell them (Israelis) that after tasting humiliation in the latest battles, your weapons are not going to protect you -- not your planes, or missiles or even your nuclear bombs ... The future generations in the Arab world will find a way to defeat Israel," Al-Assad said. Denying that the bad guys are bad guys is not a peace strategy. Its simply denial.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#14)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:41:47 AM EST
    Peaches if correcting spelling mistakes made by an engineer on a blog makes you feel smart more power to you.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:43:54 AM EST
    Is it because if they don't they will be inialated by the millions of Arabs that think they have no right to be there?
    That's funny, I thought it was called Palestine before it got carved up in forty eight. "By what right do you hold this land?" "I hold it by the sword" And aint that always been the case. Morals and might make for uneasy bedfellows, Amoral and might lie well together, ask your prez.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#16)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:53:00 AM EST
    Oscar by your logic we have not right to be hear either. Australians have no right to be where they are. Etc.. What's your point?

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#17)
    by Sailor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:53:15 AM EST
    Isreal does have a superior military. Why?
    because we give them money and arms. If we didn't they wouldn't have a military at all.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#18)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:55:22 AM EST
    Correct Sailor. And if they didn't have that military they wouldn't exist because the Arabs would overwhelm them with sheer numbers (since they enjoy killing themselves) and the Europeans / UN would sit back and watch.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:03:48 AM EST
    Slado. None, just observing. America born out of genocide and dispossession. Australia: ditto The British Empire: ditto. An old saying. "The sun never sets on the British Empire" Thet's because god didn't trust an Englishman in the dark.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:09:31 AM EST
    Slado. None, just observing. America born out of genocide and dispossession. Australia: ditto The British Empire: ditto. An old saying. "The sun never sets on the British Empire" Thet's because god didn't trust an Englishman in the dark.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#21)
    by Peaches on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:11:22 AM EST
    Peaches if correcting spelling mistakes made by an engineer on a blog makes you feel smart more power to you.
    Slado, Oh no, never. Spelling isn't important to me. I've misspelled plenty. inialated is a long way off from annihilated and I was just offering the correct spelling for you to use in future so as to avoid confusion with your interlocutors. If having your spelling corrected makes you feel dumb, you might try expanding beyond the world of engineering and work a little bit on your self-esteem.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#22)
    by Peaches on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:16:40 AM EST
    Peaches if correcting spelling mistakes made by an engineer on a blog makes you feel smart more power to you.
    Slado, Oh no, never. Spelling isn't important to me. I've misspelled plenty. inialated is a long way off from annihilated and I was just offering the correct spelling for you to use in future so as to avoid confusion with your interlocutors. If having your spelling corrected makes you feel dumb, you might try expanding beyond the world of engineering and work a little bit on your self-esteem.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#23)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:17:00 AM EST
    TL sorry for the double posts there seems to be a snafuu in the system. The tubes must be blocked.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#24)
    by Peaches on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:20:48 AM EST
    Peaches if correcting spelling mistakes made by an engineer on a blog makes you feel smart more power to you.
    Slado, Oh no, never. Spelling isn't important to me. I've misspelled plenty. inialated is a long way off from annihilated and I was just offering the correct spelling for you to use in future so as to avoid confusion with your interlocutors. If having your spelling corrected makes you feel dumb, you might try expanding beyond the world of engineering and work a little bit on your self-esteem.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#25)
    by soccerdad on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:20:48 AM EST
    What he calls moral equivalence is just pure racism. The idea that all Arabs enjoy killing themsleves and/or Israelis is racist and untrue. The reason that people like Slado make the argument is simply to divert away attention from what israel does by simply saying they are morally superior to the Arabs. This exceptionalist and racist attitude is one of the major reasons why Israel has worked for peace in the last 10 years or so. It feels absolutely no compulsion to treat Arabs as humans. Its interesting to watch the Israel press go nuts because 25 Israeli soldiers are killed but have no problem killing over 1000 Lebanonese most of whom were non-combatants. That same racist thread runs through the neocon logic and the logic of the Bush administartion. Until the Israelis and the Arabs are willing to see each other as human beings there will be no peace. There wil be no peace as long as Israel insists that the destruction of a country, the slaughter of civilians, and the collective punishment of an entire people is a morally acceptable coarse of action.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#26)
    by Sailor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:31:23 AM EST
    Oscar by your logic we have not right to be hear either. Australians have no right to be where they are.
    Lots of Amerinds and Aborigines would agree with you. But there is a slight difference between 'colonizing' in those days and displacing large resident pops in 1947 to give away their land to other europeans.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:34:04 AM EST
    A tip from a bad speller. Open a blank email, and keep it open and if a word don't seem right try it on the spell check, saves rooting through the book of words.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#28)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:35:36 AM EST
    Peaches don't worry about me. I wouldn't let a fellow blogger wreck my self-esteem. I'll try to proof read my blogs but I thought that was the fun of blogging? Sailor. So you're saying theirs a statue of limitations on proper land greivences? Also a more informed blogger discouted your premise that Arabs were simply replaced by Isrealis but I can't remember which thread. I'll do some research and get back with you.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#29)
    by Slado on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:40:13 AM EST
    Sailor, Heres a link to a website talking about how many Palestinians were in Palestine before 1948 etc... http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#30)
    by Sailor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 11:25:58 AM EST
    So you're saying theirs a statue of limitations on proper land greivences?
    No, my point was, right or wrong, we colonized for ourselves; israel was mandated by folks who weren't going to live there. Nice link, but I think it more disproves your point than makes it.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#31)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 01:11:43 PM EST
    One should consider however the tactics of the enemies of Isreal when playing the moral equivalency card as Ernesto has already done in this thread.
    Well congratulations Slado, you replaced ras quite ably as the non-reading/non-comprehending bloviator on this thread. I didn't play any moral equivalency card. I was simply providing an analogy for ras to distinguish between these kidnappers and those that killed Daniel Pearl, since he seemed content to believe that the same result could be expected from these kidnappers but as the article pointed out, their past kidnappings did not end violently. Hence the pattern that was alluded to. We should all be careful of painting with a broad brush. Not all Israelis are genocidal maniacs, after all.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 08:30:51 PM EST
    Peaches writes:
    Oh no, never. Spelling isn't important to me. I've misspelled plenty.
    Then why bring it up? Peaches, I thought better of you.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#33)
    by Sailor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 09:30:20 PM EST
    ppj, try to stay on topic. The grownups are talking about important things, be a good boy and go play in the street.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 10:18:35 PM EST
    Then why bring it up? PPJ, it was Slado who brought up the topic of spelling first on this thread, FYI. You never disappoint, PPJ, your mediocre bombast never changes, does it?

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#35)
    by Slado on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 06:33:44 AM EST
    Dark, Peaches corrected my spelling. His intent has yet to be established. Sailor. Didn't say I was an expert. The link proved to me that at the very least the issue is murky on who deserves the land. Obviously some Palestinians were displaced but the argument for right of return etc... is pretty week IMHO because much time has passed and kicking the Jews out of Isreal who weren't even alive when this happened doesn't make sense. Whats done is done and car bombs and rockets won't get them thier land back. If your point is that their greif/anger is justified then I guess I concede but being pissed about something does not justify their actions. Especially condisdering that nothing they do is going to get them that land back short of annihilating (thanks Peaches) all of Isreal.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#36)
    by Peaches on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 06:45:00 AM EST
    Peaches corrected my spelling. His intent has yet to be established.
    Slado, I thought we cleared this up. I wrote.
    inialated is a long way off from annihilated and I was just offering the correct spelling for you to use in future so as to avoid confusion with your interlocutors.
    I read inialated and I was confused. It took me awhile to figure out the word you meant. Now, it you and ppj will allow, you can get back on topic.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#37)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 08:43:22 AM EST
    Soccerdad "The idea that all Arabs enjoy killing themsleves and/or Israelis is racist and untrue." Nice straw man. Obviously ALL Arabs don't feel the same about anything. There does seem to be a substantial subset that enjoys seeing Jews blown up.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#38)
    by soccerdad on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 08:55:02 AM EST
    Nice straw man. Obviously ALL Arabs don't feel the same about anything. There does seem to be a substantial subset that enjoys seeing Jews blown up.
    there is a substantial subset of Israelis that enjoy seeing Arabs blown up. So if your point is that both groups are stupid then i would agree.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#39)
    by soccerdad on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 08:57:14 AM EST
    btw The israelis assumed all lebonese were terrorists

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#40)
    by squeaky on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 09:04:31 AM EST
    There does seem to be a substantial subset that enjoys seeing Jews blown up.
    So Abdul, are you speaking from experience or just trolling?

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#41)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 10:15:21 AM EST
    test

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#42)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 10:34:00 AM EST
    Slado, Sailor, you can debate who "deserves" the land until the cows come home - it means nothing. The two parties will either let bygones be bygones - regardless of who feels like they "lost" or "won" - and get on with their lives or they won't. If they won't, the conflict will never end. The realist in me thinks that since they're human beings, this conflict will never really end. What the hell you gonna do?

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#43)
    by Slado on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 12:21:52 PM EST
    Sarcastic I agree with you my only point is the Isrealis fight with their military in response to their enemies that use children as suicide bombers directly targeting civilians. I have not problem coming down on the side of Isreal where as most on this site play the moral equivalancy card. Isreal is a state. Recognized at the UN. They're not going anywhere and I maintain if Hezzbollah and Hamas left them alone there would be no violence. The problem is these groups want something that is impossible so they violence continues. Peaches. Sorry for taking offense.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#44)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 12:38:13 PM EST
    Isreal is a state. Recognized at the UN. They're not going anywhere and I maintain if Hezzbollah and Hamas left them alone there would be no violence. The problem is these groups want something that is impossible so they violence continues.
    I believe you are precisely correct.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#45)
    by soccerdad on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 12:49:10 PM EST
    The problem is these groups want something that is impossible so they violence continues
    and what do you think that is.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#46)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 01:08:20 PM EST
    and what do you think that is.
    Well, I think we can safely cross "live in peace with Israel" off the list. Good luck with your fishing!

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#47)
    by soccerdad on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 01:13:26 PM EST
    Well, I think we can safely cross "live in peace with Israel" off the list. Good luck with your fishing!
    Well someone made the statement and i'm asking for clarification. If you thinks thats a fishing expedition then that reflects on you.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#48)
    by Peaches on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 01:39:07 PM EST
    Jeez, I type out a long post and it is lost when I post it. Tells me I need to register. F#$@ I'll try it again but keep it shorter. SUO, you are being obtuse when you suggest SD is fishing instead of answering his question and offering clarificaton. Because I, too, would like clarification. You began with the reasonable assessment
    The two parties will either let bygones be bygones - regardless of who feels like they "lost" or "won" - and get on with their lives or they won't.
    Slado chimes in with his usual rhetoric placing all blame for violence in the region on Hamas and Hezbollah and you agree saying
    I believe you are precisely correct.
    and adding as support
    Well, I think we can safely cross "live in peace with Israel" off the list.
    What gives? Is every complaint by Paestine, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and other arab nations against Israel unfounded? Was Israels aggressive response to Hezbollah in Lebanon justified? The killing of civilains by Israeli military and US made bombs the sole responsibility of Hezbollah? Or is it two parties refusing to let bygones be bygones as you originally asserted?

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#49)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 02:16:59 PM EST
    Hezbollah was formed to kick Israel out of Lebanon after the '82 invasion and the excesses of one Ariel Sharon. But why is Hezbollah the subject of the thread that has to do with Gaza? It's a totally separate front in the war.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#50)
    by Sailor on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 02:18:04 PM EST
    Sarcastic I agree with you my only point is the Isrealis fight with their military in response to their enemies that use children as suicide bombers directly targeting civilians.
    how does this relate to hezbollah firing missiles into a country that invaded Lebanon? And in a more general sense, (I'll ignore the inflammatory 'using children' part), how do you fight an overwhelming military if you don't have an army? Also, the provoking wasn't done by hez capturing 2 enemy soldiers, that was a response to constant violations of the blue line by israeli patrols. Besides, the soldiers were in Lebanon at the time they were captured.
    The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground forces into its neighbor to look for them.
    The forces were trying to keep the soldiers' captors from moving them deeper into Lebanon, Israeli government officials said on condition of anonymity.
    Besides, israel had already planned the campaign and gotten the greenlight from bush. They used their violation of the blueline as an excuse to attack.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#51)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 02:39:30 PM EST
    Peaches, Yes, both sides do have to accept not "winning" for lasting peace to exist.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#52)
    by Che's Lounge on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 04:29:53 PM EST
    Slado, They're not going anywhere and I maintain if Hezzbollah and Hamas left them alone there would be no violence. And no Palestine. But I'm guessing maybe that's a good thing to some people.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#53)
    by Slado on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 06:09:16 PM EST
    Che its not a good thing its a reality. Also Isreal offered Palestine everything they wanted and they denyed it because Arafat was afraid of pissing off the extremists in his own country/state. So they decided to keep fighting. ON and on. You can't seriously argue that Isreal has any other intention then simply existing. The fact remains IMHO that while they sometime over react, under react etc... they are not the cause. If you want to argue its unfair that Isreal occupies land that should be Palestinian fine but that ship has sailed and Jews will only leave Isreal in body bags. If that is your solution just say so. I know it isn't but I'm making a point. A two state solution is the answer but the extremists in Palestine won't accept that. Also what's the beef with Hezzbollah? Isreal left Lebanon and an attack is what they got for thier troubles.

    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#54)
    by soccerdad on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 06:47:21 PM EST
    urban legend
    Palestine everything they wanted and they denyed it because Arafat was afraid of pissing off the extremists in his own country/state. So they decided to keep fighting.
    just nonsense
    Also what's the beef with Hezzbollah? Isreal left Lebanon and an attack is what they got for thier troubles.


    Re: Fox News Journalist Kidnapped in Gaza (none / 0) (#55)
    by soccerdad on Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 06:57:01 PM EST
    Soon after the May 23 meeting in Washington, Israel began to ratchet up pressure on the Hamas-led government in the Palestinian territories and on Hezbollah and other Islamic militants in Lebanon. As part of this process, Israel staged low-key attacks in both Lebanon and Gaza. [For details, see Consortiumnews.com "A 'Pretext' War in Lebanon."] The tit-for-tat violence led to the Hamas seizure of an Israeli soldier on June 24 and then to Israeli retaliatory strikes in Gaza. That, in turn, set the stage for Hezbollah's attack on an Israeli outpost and the capture of two more Israeli soldiers on July 12.
    link