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Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11

By Jeralyn, Section Media
Posted on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 10:37:19 AM EST
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Good for Harvey Keitel, who plays the lead in the ABC drama Path to 9/11:

Harvey Keitel, the lead actor in the film, said in a TV interview that changes must be made in the film. He said when he was hired for the role he was told the movie was a "history" but then found that certain facts were "wrong." This led to "arguments," he recalled. "You can compile certain things as long as the truth remains the truth," he told Showbiz Tonight. "You can't put these things together, compress them and then distort the reality....

"You cannot cross the line from a conflation of events to a distortion of the event. Where we have distorted something, we made a mistake and it should be corrected."

If these are the only changes being made, they aren't enough. Keep the pressure on.

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    Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 | 17 comments (17 topical)
    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#2)
    by Slado on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 06:10:44 PM EST
    What are liberals so afraid of? It's a TV show. Clinton is out of office. Is their real beef that someone actually blames 9/11 on somebody other then Bush? Apparently he doesn't come off well in the film either but we'll never know if Demcorats again censor the media. I feel like I'm in the twighlight zone. No problem with F 9/11. No problem with the Reagans. No problem with "An Inconveinent Truth". Nope those fictionalized docudramas and so called documentaries were fine. But take a shot at Clinton and the censorship party goes into high gear. Ever wonder why the Clintons are so upset? I imagine it the same reason Berger was caught stuffing documents into his pockets so the 9/11 commission wouldn't read them. Why doesn't TL ask..."What are the Clintons so worried about"?

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 06:10:44 PM EST
    Sounds like the movie was a hatchet job on Clinton and company. In all farness, we couldn't have expected hijacked planes to be used as missles, but at least clinton wouldn't have waited 8 minutes to respond. I advise poeple not to watch this junk!

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 06:10:44 PM EST
    Contacted ABC corporate four times today. Each was met by a courteous woman and a transfer to the "comment line. Of four transfers, three were busy signals (end of those calls). On the fourth call a successful transfer, to a convoluted menu that eventually dumps the call. Denver ABC affiliate KMHG TV surly intern (who can blame her, working for college credit) you into a pre-recorded diatribe berating viewers of the corporate version of "cut and run", then dumps the call. In a sense, ABC's current predicament mirrors our own country's meltdown (only edited down).

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#5)
    by MarchDancer on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 06:10:44 PM EST
    I've been amused today by all of the large newspapers and the news channels crediting Bill Clinton and his aides and four Democratic Congressmen with the revisions in "The Path to 9-11". Not one word about the 40,000 plus emails from American Progress and I don't know how many phone calls and emails from so many other sites. Not one word! I wrote to ABC locally and nationally; wrote to former Senator Mitchell via an email; phoned our local ABC program director and left a message; and finally I sent a letter and an email to National Scholastic. I'm only one person. If I followed through on suggestions from Talk Left and other sites only for recognition, I wouldn't bother. I do think it's telling, however, that none of our work was commented upon.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#1)
    by Kitt on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 06:10:45 PM EST
    Oh, I think Harvey is doing the safest thing right now - purely covering his a**.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#6)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 10:38:39 PM EST
    What are liberals so afraid of? It's a TV show. Clinton is out of office. So was Ronald Reagan. Here's RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie on that subject: "[T]here's infotainment and docudrama and reality TV, and the lines between fact and fiction blur. That's fine when it's entertainment, but when you're talking about the formative phase of the Reagan legacy formation, I think that it's important that we get things right. . . ." Falafel pervert O'Reilly weighs in: "That would be like CBS commissioning a movie about the Clintons written by Rush Limbaugh and starring Dennis Miller and Ann Coulter. Do you think that would ever happen?" Looks like it just did. Brent Bozell: "There is no such thing as creative license to invent falsehoods about people I don't care who you are. You don't have that right." Seth Leibsohn, National Review, November 6, 2003 "We should all be ashamed of bad history, though -- of dressing up fiction as fact. What offended us was a portrayal of Reagan that put words in his mouth he never uttered and attributed positions to him he never held. . . . " No problem with F 9/11. Correct. People had to go to a theater and pay to see it. It was not broadcast for free to households over publicly owned airwaves. No problem with the Reagans. I couldn't have cared less, since no portrayal of him would be lower than my opinion and I wouldn't have watched. But Republicans melted down. Are you saying they were wrong then? No problem with "An Inconveinent Truth". Correct. Not broadcast on public airwaves. People had to go to a theater and pay to see it. As you point out, there is no reason to compare the two.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 07:54:47 AM EST
    Charles writes:
    but at least clinton wouldn't have waited 8 minutes to respond. I advise poeple not to watch this junk!
    Charles, you are perfect example of why this nonsense is going on. Let me ask you? How many times have you stated the above? How many times have you sneered about "My Pet Goat?" That's silly. First because the adults in this world know that the government has, in place, plans for such emergancies, and they were activated immediately. Secondly because no rational person wants a leader who, when informaed of such an event, wants them to jump and start running circles.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#8)
    by Sailor on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 08:06:31 AM EST
    How many times have you stated the above? How many times have you sneered about "My Pet Goat?"
    Those are facts, unlike the extreme RW lies in pathology 9/11. 2 FBI agents quit the movie because of its inaccuracies, even repubs are complaining about it. BTW, it's five years later and bush still can't find OBL.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sailor on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 08:20:00 AM EST
    That's silly. First because the adults in this world know that the government has, in place, plans for such emergancies, and they were activated immediately.
    yeah, right, except for the fact that the radios couldn't (and still can't) communicate between departments, bush was cowering in an airplane out of contact with the admin and the FAA and the DoD were still arguing when the last plane hit the ground 1.5 hours later.
    8:38 a.m.: Boston air traffic center notifies NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked. 10:01 a.m.: The FAA orders F-16 fighters to scramble from Toledo, Ohio. Although the base has no fighters on stand-by alert status, it manages to put fighters in the air 16 minutes later, a "phenomenal" response time - but still 10 minutes after the last hijacked plane has crashed. 10:03 a.m.: According to the FBI, the cockpit voice recorder stops and United Airlines Flight 93 crashes near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, in Somerset county, about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.


    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 12:32:00 PM EST
    Sailor - I didn't say that the plan was a good one, nor that it shouldn't be improved. I said that one existed and that it was too late for Bush to change it. As to the radios, etc. Do you really think that was Bush's fault? Only God knows when every sparrow falls. And if you want to blame.... do you know when the freqs were picked and by who? RePack writes:
    So was Ronald Reagan.
    Everytime someone says that tribunals are fine and that full up trials aren't needed, or everytime someone says the GC shouldn't apply because the terrorists don't use it, etc...... The Left immediately responds that we should expect America to be above such things. We should be above the tit for tat world... OK boys and girls. This is your chance to show us how. Come on. We're waiting..........

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#13)
    by Sailor on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:03:18 PM EST
    Do you really think that was Bush's fault?
    no, but ther fact they still don't cross communicate is.
    Everytime someone says that tribunals are fine and that full up trials aren't needed, or everytime someone says the GC shouldn't apply because the terrorists don't use it,
    that's pretty much just you saying it and the supreme court disagrees ... now, care to get back on topic?

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 09:18:48 PM EST
    I don't understand why Expresident Bill Clinton is so wooried about if everything is not true. I believed that the concerned is becuase million of American will know a little bit more than the Bush bashing. I also blame the conservative comentators, radio talk show hosts about this mess, because you guys need to learn when to keep you muffler close.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#10)
    by Kitt on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 09:18:49 PM EST
    Fine job, Repack - As for this:
    No problem with the Reagans.
    I couldn't have cared less, since no portrayal of him would be lower than my opinion and I wouldn't have watched. But Republicans melted down. Are you saying they were wrong then?
    oh...exactly! Nor did Michael Moore nor Gore partner with Scholastic to have 'learning guides' and 'teacher kits' provided at no cost to public schools in order to propagate their videos. Nope in order to view, we had to pay for that privelege.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#14)
    by Repack Rider on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 09:47:47 AM EST
    the adults in this world know that the government has, in place, plans for such emergancies, and they were activated immediately.
    Out of curiosity, do you have any idea why that "plan" didn't include deploying fighter aircraft to defend the capital of the United States? Seems to me that any plan to defend the country would start with, you know, the HEADQUARTERS. Do you have any idea why Mr. Bush didn't stand up in that classroom and say, "Implement the plan!"? Can you tell us where the evidence of any such "plan" can be found? Because to me it looks like the FAA didn't respond very quickly, the Pentagon didn't respond at all, and the president looked like someone who didn't have a "plan" except to keep reading to kids, and then stoll outside to pose for photos. Did the "plan" REALLY hold that the president should pose for photos during an attack on the United States? If so, it certainly suggests that the "Commander in Chief" wasn't commanding very much. I'm not the president, but I know that even if there were a "planned response," I wouldn't have had any trouble coming up with orders to issue and questions to ask, but not George. As the 9/11 Commission noted, he didn't issue a single order or ask the JCS a single question for the first hour of the attack. If you had been president on that day, wouldn't you have wondered what was going on? Why not?

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 02:22:07 PM EST
    Do you have any idea why Mr. Bush didn't stand up in that classroom and say, "Implement the plan!"?
    The official answer is because he didn't want to scare the school kids. He must have thought that they were as easily frightened as his voting bloc.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Sep 12, 2006 at 08:39:39 PM EST
    C'mon Harvey, don't feed us the BS. You got the script of the movie before you accepted the role and knew full well that the movie was flawed on many levels. If you didn't know what was true or false about the script, you should have done your own fact check. You are so covering your ass with these statements Harvey.

    Re: Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Sep 13, 2006 at 10:32:55 AM EST
    Who is this David Cunningham who directed Path to 9/11?

    Harvey Keitel Complains About Path to 9/11 | 17 comments (17 topical)