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TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship

(Guest Post by Big Tent Democrat)

How ironic. One of the main forces of Left blog detraction of the past few years, The New Republic, has joined the shrill partisan forces:

This November, control of Congress hinges upon the reelection of Republican moderates--especially those in the Northeast, such as Chafee and Connecticut Representative Christopher Shays. Inevitably, these dwindling, endangered few present their survival as an essential cause for all those who care about decency and goodwill. "I feel a moral obligation to make sure I do everything I can to make sure moderates have a place in this party," pleads Shays.

We don't want moderate Republicans to disappear, right? Surely we don't want Congress to descend irrevocably into bitter partisanship, do we? Actually, yes, we do. This November, it's time for voters to wipe out the remnants of the GOP's moderate wing--and without regrets.

Hello? Rather shrill of them no? More on the other side.

Hello? Did Marty 'I Am In Love With Scooter Libby" Peretz" get kidnapped?

When GOP moderates appeal to the spirit of bipartisanship or claim they can influence their leadership, they are recalling a bygone era. For the longest time, U.S. parties lacked ideological coherence. Northern liberals voted Republican and Southern conservatives voted Democrat, with the result that party affiliation meant less in the United States than in nearly any other democracy. In this world, it made sense to evaluate your senator or representative less on party affiliation than philosophical convictions.

This system still held sway the last time Democrats controlled Congress. As Bill Clinton learned, party moderates felt no obligation to support his agenda. Centrist Democrats from oil-producing states sunk Clinton's broad-based energy tax. Moderates allied with the insurance industry against his health care reform. If you wanted to circumscribe the Clinton agenda, then electing moderate Democrats was a good way to go about it.

From the moment they took power in 1995, Republicans made it clear that they would act differently. Those Republicans who wanted to head committees had to pledge their loyalty to the party agenda. Republicans saw themselves less as a traditional U.S. political party--with diffuse power and independent personalities--than a parliamentary majority working in unison. From a standpoint of effectiveness, the GOP's record of winning floor votes and clinging to a majority in support of an often-unpopular agenda is impressive.

. . . Of course, maintaining that majority has required Republicans to win the votes of many Americans who don't support their agenda. That's where the GOP moderates come in. Unlike the moderate wing of the old Democratic majority, they seldom do anything without the tacit consent of the leadership. GOP moderates are allowed-- indeed, encouraged--to publicly scold their party leaders, because that's how they hold onto their districts.

. . . At best, moderate Republicans have been hapless dupes. At worst, they've been co-conspirators. In either case, they have done almost nothing to alleviate the radical or corrupt tendencies of Republican Washington. Extinguishing the moderates at the polls this November is not a vote for mindless partisanship. It is simply a vote for transparency.

Well now, I could get snarky about this and ask them to explain their previous utterances on these subjects. But I am feeling corny today, so instead I'll borrow from Victor Lazslo --

"Welcome to the fight, I know* this time our side will win."

*Know? Hope?

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  • Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#1)
    by Lww on Fri Sep 15, 2006 at 08:33:52 PM EST
    BTD, have you noticed that moderate republicans are the the least likely to demogogue on some of the most important issues facing this country today? Unfortunately, there's no such thing as moderate democrats, so we need all the moderation we can get. This ain't rocket science....

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#4)
    by profmarcus on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 06:48:29 AM EST
    unfortunately, the r's, under the skilled leadership of karl rove, have lowered the bar of public discourse to well below sea level, and, through this bitter strategem, have taken a moderately free democratic republic and turned it into a quasi-fascist oligarchy... whatever could be gained through moderation, reason, and dialogue has been erased... attempting to reason with pathological criminals driven by ideology is wasting precious time, as we have seen again and again over the past six years... the war, precisely as bush has feared, is taking place on our own soil, only it is between people with values and moral principles who hold the united states constitution in high regard, vs. those who seek unlimited power through fear and to enrich themselves on the backs of the rest of the world... And, yes, I DO take it personally

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#5)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 07:01:56 AM EST
    et al - I wonder why we have only moderate Repubs? Do no moderate Demos exist, or are they all kool aid drinking Moonbats? From the post:
    In this world, it made sense to evaluate your senator or representative less on party affiliation than philosophical convictions.
    That disappeared in the late sixties when the radical Left brought riots to the streets and started demanding strict adherence to the party line. It continues today. I think the Leiberman/Lamont affair demonstrates this most clearly.

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 09:17:59 AM EST
    Jim, By your rationale of riots in the streets, the "radical left" brought us the civil rights movement, what is your problem with that? It also brought us women's rights, labor rights, desegregated schools, etc, it brought us the core of every personal freedom enjoy you enjoy today. Hell, the founders of this country were, almost entirely, utterly liberal products of the Enlightenment. If it weren't for the "radical left" actually practicing their freedom, going out in the streets unarmed to be attacked and firehosed and set upon by police dogs, America would be a far worse place. What has the "radical right" given us? What has the "radical right" ever been brave enough to take to the streets over, when it brought the certainty of violent retribution on the part of authorities? Believe what you will, but if it weren't for liberals (literal meaning being "free people"), and their struggle to earn rights you've NEVER risked a thing for, this country would not be what it is today. It would be more racist, more intolerant, more exploitative, more of everything we like to forget about our history.

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#2)
    by john horse on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 09:34:36 AM EST
    Moderate republicans need to wake up and smell the coffee. The Republican party is the party of George Bush, Trent Lott, and Tom Delay. It has no place for folks who are socially liberal but fiscally conservative. But there is a party that welcomes people with these views. They are called the Democrats. Moderate Republicans have more in common with most Democrats than they do with most Rebublicans. You have to look at results. As TNR points out, moderate Republicans by helping conservative Republicans maintain control of the Senate and House help ensure the passage of an agenda that most of them would oppose. There is a solution. Come join the Democrats. We'll leave the light on for you.

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#3)
    by superskepticalman on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 09:34:36 AM EST
    Need all the "moderation" we can get? Pshaw. Time to paraphrase Goldwater: moderation in the defense of extremism is no virtue. So the truer observation is that, while moderate Republicans may be the least likely to demagogue, they are also the least likely to do anything to stop the demagoguery. Meanwhile they provide defensive cover for their extremist leaders to destroy our ancient liberties and our noble experiment. Be gone with them.

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 03:00:32 PM EST
    Dadler - No. The radical Left did not bring us the Civil Rights Movement. That was brought to to us by some very courageous blacks, starting long before the Radical Left destroyed the Demo party in the late sixties. What the Radical Left has done is demand purity of thought and expression. It has nothing to do with being a liberal. Unfortunately, the Repubs choose to label the Radical Left as liberals when they are actually just the flip side of the Far Right.

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#9)
    by Lww on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 04:51:56 PM EST
    Dadler-"Believe what you will, but if it weren't for liberals (literal meaning being "free people")" I guess all these courageous "free people" aka free thinkers, are now in the democratic party? These are the same free thinkers who made a stink out've al-Maliki speaking to congress and the same free people who demogogued the Dubai Ports deal? Some real free thinkers on the left...

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#10)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 08:39:05 PM EST
    Dark Avenger - Being "for" something and actually "doing" something is actually two completely different things. And you know, based on the Radical Left's attacks on Israel, I would say their position re Jews is highly suspect.

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#11)
    by Lww on Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 09:26:39 PM EST
    So Jim predictably pulls out the old anti-semitic card. I don't know who to mistrust more: the secretly cheerleading liberal zionists who hate Bush no matter what he does or the conservative rapturists who want to follow Israel into the abyss? We need a third party.

    Re: TNR Shrill? Urges Dem Partisanship (none / 0) (#12)
    by Sailor on Sun Sep 17, 2006 at 06:33:13 PM EST
    Dark Avenger - Being "for" something and actually "doing" something is actually two completely different things
    Yes, all the 'lefty' whites who marched with the blacks weren't doing anything ... except being jailed, killed, set upon by dogs, accused of being commies ... etc etc etc. More here. Now back on topic: As far as I can tell all the dems in congress are moderates, they let bush start an illegal war, they haven't stopped the torture, they aren't calling for bush to be impeached and sent to the Hague to ansewr for his crimes.