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A Deadly Month in Iraq

One hundred deaths made October the deadliest month for American forces in Iraq since January 2005.

Update: 101.

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    Mistake (5.00 / 0) (#1)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 11:31:00 AM EST
    100 more men asked to die for a mistake.

    How many more?  When will our so-called leaders gain the courage to save some lives...even at the expense of their own hides?  

    It's beyond scandalous at this point.

    The reason... (5.00 / 0) (#24)
    by Edger on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 02:42:28 AM EST
    Jm,m does it again.

    Another "all about ppj" thread. The whole thread. He got exactly what he wanted. He doesn't care whether he makes sense. He doesn't care how many American troop die in Iraq. In fact as far as he's concerned the more the better, so he can blame it on anyone but the administration that sent them in there. As long as someone responds to him, and talks about him, instead of the topic, he feels relevant.

    Debating with a disease is usless. Antibiotics work much better. Eradicate the disease.

    The reason it's another deadly month in Iraq is beacause the Iraqis want American troops the hell out of Iraq. They've had enough of the brand of "freedom and democracy" America has exported to them, and regardless of who prevails in the midterm elections they're 'not gonna take it anymore'. No democrats or liberals have ever stopped bush from sending troops or materials to Iraq. We could be nuking them daily and they would make sure they killed as many American troops as possible.

    Period.

    xx (1.00 / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 08:45:04 AM EST
    Edger - You say they want us out so they are doing more attacks on Iraqi civilans? I mean remember, it is the Iraqis who are suffering the most from these attacks. Oh, I know what you are saying.

    It is the left over Bath party members and various other Suni that want us out, so they join with the terrorists. And since you want us out you come up with an incomplete statement and try to act like it is wisdom.

    As for as stopping shipment by Democrats and Lefties... they aren't liberals... I do remememner demonstrations on the docks in Oakland.. And then we have the most important thing in a war against terrorist... Support. By withholding that support and by not supporting the war and by demanding a withdrawal the Left has convinced the terrorist, as the Left also convinced General Giap, that if they just held on the Demos would pull out.

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    xx (1.00 / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 11:11:38 PM EST
    et al - Uh... you know, this aint 2004 boys and girls.

    My comment merely noted that our enemies, being smarter than the average Leftie, have figured out that the Demos have finally made the war an issue. So any negative news about the war helps the Demos.

    Surely you will not deny that.

    So they have went up tempo and started attacking more, killing more. That helps the Demos.

    The question then becomes, why?

    Well some might say that it was comments by such esteemed leaders as Congressman Murtha who decided that we should redeploy our troops to Okinawa, or perhaps the continual calling Bush a liar, maybe the demand for a firm fixed date pull out....

    Now. If the Repubs pull it off they will pull back and start towards trying to sieze power through politics.

    That you can't figure this for yourselves is remarkable.

    There he goes again (none / 0) (#23)
    by glanton on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 12:08:03 AM EST
    JIm does it again, so again, every time this inane idea comes spewing forth from Jim or any other Rethug, remember that if there were light to zero violence these water carriers would be saying "see, the GOP is right!  If you elect Demos then the violence will uptick!"  In fact, they already say it, arguing that because no attack has happened on our shores since 9/11, we should all love Bush.

    So you see people, no matter what happens overseas no matter what happens here ,it all argues in favor of voting GOP.

    How convenient for the Troglodytes.

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    remember............. (none / 0) (#2)
    by cpinva on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 11:44:19 AM EST
    the month isn't over yet.

    and remember....... (none / 0) (#3)
    by Skyho on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 11:51:24 AM EST
    The powers that be say "no change until after the elections", which means, all those dying between then and elections died to help support the Republican Party,

    not America nor the people nor the Constitution.  Just some pathetic political party.  Not even worth getting a paper-cut over, much less dying for.

    why the attacks (1.00 / 0) (#8)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:49:10 PM EST
    skyho - Be sure and read my comments to desertswine.
    It is a brief explanation as to what is causing the stepped up attacks..

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    Nailed It (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 01:41:40 PM EST
    which means, all those dying between then and elections died to help support the Republican Party

    Nailed it skyho.  They are fighting to re-elect a couple crooked congressman...how nice.

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    George's War... (none / 0) (#4)
    by desertswine on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:08:56 PM EST
    Hundreds of thousands of weapons intended for Iraqi security forces were not properly monitored, a new federal report said.

    How many of our soldiers were killed with our own weapons thanks to Bush and Rumsfeld incompetance?


    Nutty claims (1.00 / 0) (#6)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:46:32 PM EST
    desertswine - Let me see. Bush and Rumsfed are supposed to be doing inventory control?

    That's stupid. And just demonstrates how far the BHAW will go make a claim.

    Hey! Bush! The post office lost a package of mine last week! Shape up!

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    George's War... (none / 0) (#13)
    by desertswine on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:33:14 PM EST
    14,000 Weapons lost in Iraq.

    Hey! Bush! The post office lost a package of mine last week!

    Thousands of lost weapons is not the same as the post office losing a package.

    I suggest turing up the oxygen on your breathing apparatus to a little richer mixture.

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    xx (1.00 / 0) (#20)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 10:21:46 PM EST
    And I suggest you study hard and learn that the Pres doesn't do everything that the government does.

    Shall we run through a list of screw ups of recent Demos?

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    Pretty easy to understand (none / 0) (#5)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:40:53 PM EST
    If the Repubs hold the senate and the house you can expect the attaks, and the deaths, to decrease. If the Demos get control they will increase as the terrorist understand that if they just keep killing, the Lefties will force the Demos to cut and run.

    Pretty easy to understand when you view the comments of the anti-war anti-bush Lefties.

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    Pretty easy to misrepresent (none / 0) (#7)
    by roy on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:47:28 PM EST
    If the Repubs hold the senate and the house you can expect the attaks, and the deaths, to decrease.

    Wasn't that what you told us to expect last time?

    Besides, we both know that if October had been a relatively low-violence month, you'd be telling us how it's just an Al Queda scheme to make us think that Iraq is ready for us to withdraw and encourage us to vote Democratic.


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    Good heavens (1.00 / 0) (#9)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:52:04 PM EST
    So you see no connection? Good heavens.

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    La La Land (none / 0) (#14)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:48:26 PM EST
    PPJ...the latest spike in the death toll for U.S. soldiers is due mainly to a military strategy of increased patrols into hot spots, i.e., our guys are sharing more in the carnage of the average Iraqi citizens lately.

    But keep pumping yourself full of political fantasies if it makes you feel better than your usual meds.

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    cause and effect (1.00 / 0) (#21)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 10:23:57 PM EST
    La La - Yes you are there..

    Let me explain something called "cause and effect."

    The attacks I referenced are causing the need for more patrols the effect of which are more dead.

    There now, that wasn't hard, was it??

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    As usual you are clueless of cause and effect (none / 0) (#25)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:50:36 AM EST
    The attacks have been going on since at least "Mission Accomplished". What's really spiked up lately is the sectarian violence. So what you are saying in effect is that Iraq is descending into civil war just to spite your favorite political party. Damn them Jim, how dare they.

    Read the articles on this and they all tell you that our recent "get tough" strategy  in fighting sectarian violence has resulted the bloodbath for our guys along with the regular Iraqis getting slaughtered. To think it has anything to do with an American election is more evidence of how extremely (and still increasingly) detached you are from anything close to reality. Are any U.S. generals blaming this on the U.S. election? Is Rumsfeld? Then again the commander of the 82nd Chairborne Division knows better than anyone, right?  

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    George (heart)s Osama (none / 0) (#15)
    by Repack Rider on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:23:20 PM EST
    If the Repubs hold the senate and the house you can expect the attaks, and the deaths, to decrease.

    Are you actually CHEERING the increase in deaths in Iraq, because you think it means the GOP is "winning"?  If deaths go DOWN, does that mean that Republicans are doing a "bad" job?  

    And you base this prediction on what?  Something pulled out of your @$$?

    The Republicans have held the house and the Senate ever since we invaded over three years ago.  If deaths were going to decrease due to Republican diligence, it would have happened by now.  No matter how much horse $h!t you see, you believe it's still hiding a pony for you.

    I can't help noticing that Osama and George W. Bush seem to be working together.  Certainly Bush is the best thing that has happened to Osama, a lightning-rod for terrorists, but no personal threat to OBL, since GWB doesn't think about Osama any more and Pakistan has welcomed him.  

    Osama is the best thing Bush ever had, an enemy to unite his few remaining supporters.  Osama rescued George in 2001 from a 40% approval rating (he's BAAAACK), and he's a guy who will always remain a potent symbol of terrorism because he will never be captured.

    No wonder Osama helps George by sending tapes just before elections.  A competent president might be a danger to him.

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    deadly, and getting deadlier. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Sailor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 01:37:01 PM EST
    If the Repubs hold the senate and the house you can expect the attaks, and the deaths, to decrease.
    yeah, all those iraqis w/o electricity are just trying to influence our elections by shooting at us with our guns.

    "It would seem that if they can increase the violence, they can increase opposition to the war and have an influence against the president," Ruff told reporters on Friday, discussing the month's rising death toll.
    But defense officials did not say what information had led them to that conclusion. Ruff said he had not seen intelligence to back it up.

    just like ppj, rethuglicans don't need proof or evidence, they believe it so that must make it true.

    By that logic, since the majority of iraqis want us out when dems win back the country then the violence should go down.

    no jim, there is no connection (none / 0) (#12)
    by cpinva on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 01:52:15 PM EST
    whatever. if that were true, it would have wound up big time in 2004, in an effort to support kerry and the dems running for congress. it didn't. or do the militias only care about mid-term elections?

    considering the fact that no dem has actually supported a (to use the bush terminology) "cut and run" position, if the insurgents are counting on that, they need to get better reception in their caves.

    geez, either drink the entire glass of koolaid, or none at all, half seems to be rotting your brain.

    Number of KIA (none / 0) (#16)
    by Che's Lounge on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:38:46 PM EST
    KIA in October of 2004 - 63. KIA in November of '04 - 137. Nov.'04 appears to be the highest single month of KIA's since the conflict began, with over 1400 WIA in the same month.

    Just FYI

    i note that (none / 0) (#17)
    by cpinva on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 04:58:45 PM EST
    the number dropped by almost half, from nov. 04 to dec. 04. then, it increased by half again, for jan. 05. they were probably trying to influence the inauguration, using jim's, and the republican's, logic.

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    Another Turning Point of the War (none / 0) (#19)
    by john horse on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 08:08:52 PM EST
    A couple of weeks ago I was listening to an interview with a reporter who just came back from Iraq about the recent operation in Baghdad.  According to the reporter if we cannot even control the capital city of Iraq then the war is lost.  Here is the awful truth.  Despite losing 101 servicemen we failed in our mission to secure Baghdad.  The war is lost.

    At least he's consistent (none / 0) (#28)
    by Peaches on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 10:52:35 AM EST
    You got to hand Jim that. If you step back and read his comments, he's hilarious. I mean it is like Rumsfeld talling every one to "Just Back-off." These guys are so blinded by their ideology they cannot admit a mistake. They don't have the ability to make  critical decisions. It makes them sound completely ludicrous, but funny, too. But, these lunatics are still piloting the ship...and that's not so funny. It's tragic