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This is a cynical and revolting proposal:

Pentagon officials conducting a review of Iraq strategy are considering a substantial but temporary increase in American troop levels and the addition of several thousand more trainers to work with Iraqi forces, a senior Defense Department official said Monday. The idea, dubbed the “surge option” by some officials, would involve increasing American forces by 20,000 troops or more for several months in the hope of improving security, especially in Baghdad. That would mark a sharp rise over the current baseline of 144,000 troops.

We have played this whack a mole, Waiting for Godot game for 3 years. It will not work. The Pentagon knows it. The public knows it. This is not only NOT a serious proposal, it is morally repugnant. It is playing political games with the lives of our troops.

Personally, I do not think there is anything we can do militarily in Iraq anymore. But if one were serious about trying, you would double the troop strength and basically reconquer Iraq and start over. And indeed, you would have to de facto overthrow the existing facade of an Iraqi government which is the biggest obstacle to a political solution. The Myth of the Purple Finger, the celebration of elections for elections sake, with no thought of actual governance and a political solution, has utterly doomed US Iraq policy.

Look what the Pentagon will NOT propose:

The senior Pentagon official said that increasing the number of American combat troops for an indefinite period “is not on the table.” Nor is there active discussion of a rapid troop drawdown advocated by some Democrats, the official said, an approach the official called “turning off the lights and going home.”

This is serious and committed policy making? IT is not. it is a cynical joke. Look at the insult to our intelligence the Pentagon is providing:

Though a temporary increase of about 20,000 American troops is under consideration, the plan envisions the additional troops staying only until security conditions improve. After that, troop levels could come down, as better-trained and equipped Iraqi units took on a larger security role.

Until security conditions improve? Then we can turn off the lights and go home? And when they deteriorate again as they have EVERYTIME the whack a mole strategy has been employed? Oh by the way, have we NOT been training Iraqi troops for the past 3 and a half years?

But the lack of seriousness is complete. The inability to even address what stands in the way. The impossibility of a US crafted political solution:

The Best and the Brightest:

"You can't beat brains," John F. Kennedy liked to say. When picking his national security team, the dashing young president chose a crop of the finest minds around: a proudly tough-minded crew of self-avowed "hard-nosed realists" and World War II veterans whom David Halberstam immortalized as The Best and the Brightest. . . . This was "heady stuff," Halberstam writes, and it came to grief. The term "best and brightest" has become an insult, not an accolade, thanks largely to Halberstam's magnificent, scabrous epic about the policymaking blunders that swept the United States into Vietnam. This classic work is part of the Vietnam canon, but it is not really about Vietnam; it is very much a Washington book, focused on the surety of the hawks stateside rather than the misery and warfare in Indochina.

In the 3/06 issue of Foreign Affairs, Stephen Biddle, a Fellow with the Council on Foreign Relations, wrote some remarkable things:

According to the antiwar movement, the struggle is already over, because, as it did in Vietnam, Washington has lost hearts and minds in Iraq, and so the United States should withdraw. But if the debate in Washington is Vietnam redux, the war in Iraq is not. The current struggle is not a Maoist "people's war" of national liberation; it is a communal civil war with very different dynamics. Although it is being fought at low intensity for now, it could easily escalate if Americans and Iraqis make the wrong choices.

First problem - as a card carrying member of the "anti-war Left," I take exception to Biddle's statement that we view the struggle in Iraq as "communal people's war." This is simply ridiculous. The "anti-war Left" has always understood the problem of Iraq was sectarian in nature. For example, in January 2005, this "anti-war Leftist" wrote:

Is the Iraq Election a success? The early reporting is that there is good turnout among the Shia and Kurds. Does this qualify as success? . . . This Election is simply, in my estimation, an exercise in pretty pictures. Why? Because Elections are to choose governments, not to celebrate the day. Are the people elected capable of governing Iraq at this time? Without 150,000 U.S. soldiers? Or even with them? My focus has been on the realities of governing a land in chaos, in the midst of civil war, with 150,000 U.S. soldiers the only force with the ability to provide security. And this is 2 years after the invasion.

"People's war"? No, sectarian. Civil war. The "anti-war Left" knew about this problem from the beginning. Did the "Best and the Brightest?"

The second problem - "if Americans and Iraqis make the wrong choices" - if, Mr. Biddle?

Biddle writes:

Rapid democratization, meanwhile, could be positively harmful in Iraq. In a Maoist people's war, empowering the population via the ballot box undermines the insurgents' case that the regime is illegitimate and facilitates nonviolent resolution of the inequalities that fuel the conflict. In a communal civil war, however, rapid democratization can further polarize already antagonistic sectarian groups. In an immature polity with little history of compromise, demonizing traditional enemies is an easy -- and dangerous -- way to mobilize support from frightened voters. And as the political scientists Edward Mansfield and Jack Snyder have shown, although mature democracies rarely go to war with other democracies, emerging democracies are unusually bellicose. Political reform is critical to resolving communal wars, but only if it comes at the right time, after some sort of stable communal compromise has begun to take root.

No kidding, Mr. Biddle. But um, you do know the horse is out of the barn already don't you? That Bremer "turned over" authority to Allawi in the summer of 2004? That elections were held in January 2005? That an Iraqi Constitution was rammed through the "Iraq assembly" in the Fall of 2005? That elections were held "ratifying" that Constitution?

About the Iraq constitution, I wrote:

The BEST result would have been a Sunni rejection of the Constitution that would have taken Iraq back to the drawing board. That result would have demonstrated to the Sunni that they indeed DO have a stake in the political process and some power to exert in that process.

THIS result demonstrates the exact opposite. Indeed, I expect that that the passage of the Constitution will make the "basic security problem in Iraq" worse -- what can Sunnis who argue for participation in the political process and abandonment of the insurgency have to offer in the way of evidence that Sunnis will have any power in that political process? Nothing. On the other hand, had the Sunni been able to reject the Constitution, they would have had a powerful argument for political participation and abandonment of the insurgency.

The result of the constitutional vote was the worst possible outcome - overwhelming Sunni rejection of the Constitution to no political effect. The divide can only worsen now.

For Biddle to write what he wrote in March 2006, is rather absurd. His point would have been worthy in 2004 and 2005. But in 2006? Puhleeaze.

And this new Pentgon proposal would never have been worthy. Now it is a sick joke.

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    A reminder (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 12:07:35 PM EST
    I will not comment at this site. But I will ask that ad hominem attacks on me be deleted. One such attack was deleted from this thread.

    It compared me to Clement Vallandigham.

    Great post, Big Tent. (4.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 10:35:14 AM EST
    One of your best, IMO. Your conlusion here is right on the money:
    This is not only NOT a serious proposal, it is morally repugnant. It is playing political games with the lives of our troops.

    ...in Bidens plans, Bushs plans, the ISG's plans, or ANY American plans.

    Iraq is in a full blown civil war. US Troops are in the way and dying in the crossfire - similar to  intervening in a domestic fight between a wife and her man. They'll both turn on you, enraged.

    And Bush wants to give them more US targets?

    Taking sides in their civil war will become necessary the longer America stays in Iraq.

    Bush is not attempting and has never attempted to conduct a war between the US and Iraq, and has absolutely zero concern for the lives of Iraqis, anymore than he does for the lives of American soldiers.

    exactly (4.00 / 1) (#3)
    by soccerdad on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 10:51:51 AM EST
    and Iraq, and has absolutely zero concern for the lives of Iraqis, anymore than he does for the lives of American soldiers.

    if more US troops come underfire that will provide additional justification for increased use of the airforce, cluster munitions etc. The more Iraqis killed the better by neocon standards. The only good Iraqi is a dead Iraqi.

    Since the war is about control of physical Iraq, the Iraqis are just in the way. As Rumsfeld said "eventially they will tire of being killed".

    This latter quote is in fact their strategy. Negroponte and his sidekicks were not brought in to hand out ice cream cones but to help forment the civil strife.

    Post election (3.00 / 1) (#1)
    by aw on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 10:09:30 AM EST
    It's obvious this war does not have the support of we, the people.  I'm no scholar, but I can't see how a country can win without the support of its citizens.  Has it ever happened?

    Last Big Push - Out of their country (3.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 05:22:22 PM EST
    Even though Iraqis themselves think the violence there will increase for a time, the vast majority of them want the US out of Iraq.

    WorldPublicOpinion Poll:

    Eight out of ten Shias in Baghdad (80%) say they want foreign forces to leave within a year (72% of Shias in the rest of the country), according to a poll conducted by World Public Opinion in September. None of the Shias polled in Baghdad want U.S.-led troops to be reduced only "as the security situation improves," a sharp decline from January, when 57 percent of the Shias polled by WPO in the capital city preferred an open-ended U.S presence.

    This brings Baghdad Shias in line with the rest of the country.

    Seven out of ten Iraqis overall--including both the Shia majority (74%) and the Sunni minority (91%)--say they want the United States to leave within a year.



    Pushed out the door (3.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 09:39:52 PM EST
    Looks like Bush has lost all credibility in the Middle East and is being pushed out of the party as Iran will host talks with Iraq's President Jalal Talabani and Syria's President al-Assad that will begin Saturday on restoring security and trying to end the violence in Iraq, and to cap off the day 4 hours ago Chosun Ilbo, Korea's oldest newspaper, announced that this afternoon:

    Updated Nov.22,2006 06:43 KST
    Iraq, Syria Restore Relations

    Iraq and Syria have fully restored relations severed more than 25 years ago. Many hope the move will help stem spiraling sectarian violence inside Iraq. But in a heated session of parliament Tuesday, Sunni and Shi'ite deputies blamed one another for the violence and neither side called for a halt to the bloodshed.

    Iraq and Syria severed relations more than 25 years ago, when Syria threw its support behind Iran during the eight-year-long war between Iraq and Iran.

    But in Baghdad Tuesday, Iraq and Syria's foreign ministers put old animosities behind them as they signed the document restoring diplomatic ties.

    Iraq's foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, said both countries would re-open their embassies immediately and there would be cooperation on all fronts, especially security.

    Interesting that I can find nothing in the American MSM on the Iraq/Syria agreement.

    ad homeneim? (1.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jarober on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 04:21:48 PM EST
    So a comparsion to a historical figure (A Democrat, as it happens) is now out of bounds here?  TL truly is afraid of actual debate.  There's a phrase about heat and the kitchen that comes to mind.

    Yes (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by aw on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 05:43:38 PM EST
    it is out of bounds if you're discussing the poster instead of the posted contents.  Debate the actual topic.

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    Afraid of certain contrary thoughts (1.00 / 1) (#21)
    by jarober on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 09:36:14 AM EST
    I see my last comment was pulled - what I said was that it's clear that "Big Tent" and TL are unwilling to debate certain points of view.  Which means that TL and "Big Tent" are not all that confident in their own stand on this issue.

    It's not complicated... (none / 0) (#22)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 10:05:37 AM EST
    As aw said: it is out of bounds if you're discussing the poster instead of the posted contents.  Debate the actual topic.

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    Wasn't this tried already? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Al on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 11:10:28 AM EST
    As I recollect, there was a steady, "temporary" escalation of troops until the South Vietnamese army could fight on their own throughout the Vietnam war. Don't the military study their own campaigns?

    Military Campaigns (none / 0) (#9)
    by WFIGuy on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 12:50:24 PM EST
    It is foolish and ill informed to draw parallels between Vietnam and Iraq.  The issues surrounding U.S. involvement in both are vastly different.  In addition, if we were to continue in Iraq in the same manner we did in Vietnam, then "pacification" of the people of Iraq would be a very different goal.  

    The main issue is that in order to bring an end to an insurgency, it is necessary to engage in "total war".  But, despite comments to the contrary, neither Bush, Cheney, nor Rumsfeld are willing to do this.  Indeed, if we were truly there for the oil only, then the total war concept would be the way to go.  Since we haven't engaged in this, perhaps there is an alternate strategy here.  Could it be a free, and stable Khurdistan(sp)?  A nice direct forward area to launch strikes/counter strikes against Iran?  Perhaps this is the case.  Or maybe it is multifaceted!  We are there for Oil, and to pump up the profits of Defense Contractors!  Or maybe it is what it is....a poor decision made on the basis of bad data.  

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    The main issue is that... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 01:40:13 PM EST
    It is a proxy war with Iran. Bush/Cheney/PNAC's intention was and still is to CAUSE what is happening in Iraq. See here.

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    RE:Great Post/Big tent (none / 0) (#6)
    by WFIGuy on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 12:36:12 PM EST
    So you are suggesting with your analogy that whoever is between the husband and wife just mind his/her business and leave?  Are you serious?  If you are there, you break it up if you can.  If not, you call for assistance (in this case it would be more troops.).  

    you break it up if you can (none / 0) (#7)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 12:42:32 PM EST
    Not if you're the one who caused it, and your presence it the main exacerbating factor.

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    Ok (none / 0) (#10)
    by WFIGuy on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 12:55:38 PM EST
    Right.  But the example was that a Civil has been started, and we just happen to be in the middle of it.  It wasn't suggested that our presence started the fight.  More to the point though, if Our presence reduces the violence, and our evacuation would allow it to escalate to the point of all out Civil war, then we have a responsibility to stay and correct the situation if we can.  Remember, Civil Wars are fought until one side or the other is completely exhausted or dead.  If we pull out, and allow this to happen, then how would we seem to the rest of the world?  
    "Those #%#@^$%^#^%# Americans let Iraq fall into a civil war!"  I am not saying that we didn't start it, but that doesn't mean we should just walk away either.

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    Your questions are good... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 01:09:38 PM EST
    ...but I and others have spent much time already covering them, and I don't have time to re-cover the same ground because I'm at work.

    Instead I'll refer you to these two recent threads:

    November 16, 2006 - Iraq

    November 15, 2006 - The "Experts" on Iraq

    ...and to this:

    Iran and Syria to seek Iraq role

       Iran's president has invited his Iraqi counterpart to a three-way summit with the Syrian leader to discuss ways of ending the raging violence in Iraq.

        Sources close to Jalal Talabani say he has accepted Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call but that a date has not been set.

        Other Iraqi officials have indicated the leaders will meet on Saturday.

    And reiterate that they are not intersed in ANY US plans for them.

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    actually.................. (none / 0) (#8)
    by cpinva on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 12:44:16 PM EST
    the kennedy administration didn't get us into vietnam, that was the first eisenhower admin., flying supplies to the french, in 1954, at dien bien phu, using re-painted u.s. air force planes, and cia pilots.

    the first u.s. military casualties occurred in 1957, when two army helicoptors were shot down, and their army pilots killed, ferrying supplies to the south vietnamese army. this during the second eisenhower administration. kennedy inherited vietnam from eisenhower.

    like the present situation, vietnam eventually degraded, to the point where the only realistic solutions were to ignore china, and reduce n. vietnam to rubble, with a million troops, or leave and let s. vietnam fend for itself. the inbetween was tried, and only resulted in more u.s. casualties.

    as well, the same sectarian violence happened in eastern europe, after the fall of the soviet union, who'd kept a repressive lid on it for forty years. it seems to be finally calming down.

    the only realistic solutions in iraq are either full blown, raise-a-million soldier army and take no prisoners war, or getting the hell out, and letting the iraqi's handle it internally.

    anything in between is asking our troops to literally become targets for both sides, for no apparently good reason.

    i submit that anyone supporting this idea be the first in line to baghdad.

    Political games with the lives of troops. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 12:28:08 PM EST
    Hartford Courant, November 22, 2006
    Syria, Iraq, Iran Deal?
    In less than a year, the number of U.S. forces in Iraq has grown from 126,000 to more than 140,000. The increase was supposed to be temporary. It was to be dedicated to pacifying Baghdad.

    The results have been unsatisfactory. Iraq's capital is a human slaughterhouse. Still, a further expansion of American military personnel is said to be under serious consideration. Tell us it isn't so, President Bush.
    ...
    In other words, the way out of Iraq is to beef up our military presence in the short term.

    The Democratic majority in Congress would be short-lived if it bought into this ride. Americans have clearly expressed their preference for a change of course, not for more of the same.

    Much to Americans' discomfort, one emerging way out may be through Damascus, Tehran and Baghdad. The option arose after Syria and Iraq restored full diplomatic relations this week for the first time in 24 years. Leaders of both countries are expected to take up Iran's offer to meet in Tehran shortly to explore how stability might be restored in Iraq.

    Surely that's a goal most Americans would welcome, notwithstanding a healthy dose of skepticism about an Iraq-Syria-Iran deal. British Prime Minister Tony Blair says it's worth exploring. How about it, Mr. Bush?

    How about it indeed, George? Or more games with lives?

    Good article from... (none / 0) (#24)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 01:57:15 PM EST
    ...Asia Times Online today outlining some of the ramifications that mught be expected to develop out of the meeting between Iraq, Iran, and Syria.

    Iraq's fate hanging on a new axis
    Nov 23, 2006

    While the US is actively exploring alternative options to salvage its intervention in Iraq, regional realities are dictating their own dynamic, not necessarily in tune with the United States' objectives. Slowly but surely, a new realignment is shaping up that is making Washington nervous - a Tehran-Baghdad-Damascus axis.

    The possibility of such a "strategic alliance" being formed, to quote a headline in Tehran's conservative daily, Kayhan, is high, given this weekend's summit in Tehran that brings together the presidents of Iran, Iraq and Syria. (That's two out of three of the United States' "axis of evil" - Iran and Iraq...
    ...
    Reportedly the ISG will recommend direct US dialogue with Iran and Syria over Iraq, and Baker and his colleagues must now be encouraged that both countries are showing serious signs of improving relations with Iraq, reflected most vividly in Syria's initiative to normalize diplomatic relations with Baghdad after 24 years.

    Thus the weekend's summit in Tehran may prove a prelude to dialogue with the US, which continues to occupy Iraq at exorbitant price and yet without any prospect of "military victory", to paraphrase US statesman Henry Kissinger.