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Weekend Open Thread -- Links and News

We're about to head into what is likely the blogoshpere's lowest week of readership.

I'll be offline most of Saturday as the TL kid is flying in -- assuming the airport stays open.

Let's give the gift of links to other bloggers. Who are you reading? If you have a blog and have a post that you think TalkLeft readers would be interested in, link to it in the comments (just use the html buttons so the site doesn't get skewed.)

And if there's anything else you want to say, here's a place.

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    Our president needs to be expeditiously removed (none / 0) (#1)
    by profmarcus on Fri Dec 22, 2006 at 11:44:20 PM EST
    Improbably ... (none / 0) (#2)
    by janinsanfran on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:06:06 AM EST
    even some immigrant workers at risk of being fired get to enjoy Christmas thanks to a legal ruling. We should too -- there is no way in this society to avoid the Great American Consumption Festival, so let's celebrate. :-)

    Christmas cheer abounded (none / 0) (#3)
    by bx58 on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:42:05 AM EST
    when I witnessed an accident today near DC. Scores of cars drove around the wreckage, on their way to shop.

    The guy who caused it(he was t-boned after an ill-advised left) never left his car to check on the injured woman who hit him.

    I pulled over and called the FD, checked on the woman and went over to his car, he barely acknowledged me as he continued doing some sort of business on his cell phone.

    It just drives ya nuts.

    I hear that.... (none / 0) (#7)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:24:05 AM EST
    It's funny how for all the hub-bub about Christmas trees and manger scenes and "Happy Holidays"; the real meanings of the holiday season...kindness, sharing, and caring is what is really being slighted.  By believers and non-believers alike.  

    Trampling each other for plastic pieces of crap,  buying expensive things for people who don't have a need for anything, all the Christmas party spreads being thrown in dumpsters....war on christmas my arse, but I do see a war on kindness, sharing, and caring.

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    had he (none / 0) (#11)
    by Jen M on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:32:56 AM EST
    noticed?

    I remember one time a guy on a cell phone in the right lane ploughed right into the back of a stopped bus just outside the beltway. Never even slowed down. Snarled traffic nicely though, it was right off the exit.

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    How Those in China See Us (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:58:51 AM EST
    From Peking Duck, on our post about the 17 year old probationer violater in Texas who got life for smoking pot on probation and may be released after doing 16 years:

    I believe the US justice system is deeply flawed, but considering what it's up against, I also feel it's amazing that it functions as well as it does. We are lucky to have a relatively free media that can bring at least some of these aberrations to light and expedite change. But I have no illusions: For every horror story like this that the media expose, there are probably hundreds if not thousands of similar stories that don't get told, and where the victim is not so lucky. The wheels of the US justice system grind on, protecting us and punishing wrongdoers and making sure rule of law in America works as best it can. But God have mercy on the souls of the little people who get caught up in its cold, heartless machinery. Tragically but not at all surprisingly, the poorer they are, the more likely they are to get sucked into these legal black holes. In the US, and certainly in other countries we talk about here as well.


    Would you send your relative to Iraq? Wu asks (none / 0) (#6)
    by aw on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:13:41 AM EST
    A very simple question
    via Buzzflash:
    "We need to focus on whether we would choose to send our own son or daughter, our own wife or our own husband off for a temporary surge in Iraq," said Wu, D-Ore. "If we wouldn't do that, then should we permit this administration to roll out a potential product like that?"

    The Oregonian
     

    Situation In Iraq Is So Bad . . . (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:53:16 AM EST
    re: "We need to focus on whether we would choose to send our own son or daughter, our own wife or our own husband off for a temporary surge in Iraq,"

    The situation in Iraq is so sorry that I wouldn't send some of my in-laws there.

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    But but but..... (none / 0) (#8)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:34:39 AM EST
    Rudy's son can better serve his country playing golf.  

    Bush's girls can better serve their country partying in Argentina.

    Joe and Jane Blow from Anytown USA don't have anything better to do than dodge IED's and occupy.  It's not like they got any wealth, what do they have to live for?

     

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    kdog - So I assume that you are with me (none / 0) (#15)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:44:04 AM EST
    when I say this country must have Universal Military Service??

    And if not, why the snarky comments about the Bush and Rudy kids??

    After all, they are merely doing what most of the Left isn't doing.

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    universal (none / 0) (#17)
    by Jen M on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:51:06 AM EST
    service. Not just military.

    Exept police, firefighters, Health care workers, teachers and preachers

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    Nope. (none / 0) (#29)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 06:57:49 PM EST
    Military service. After they have done their mandatory time they can become policemen, preachers, etc.

    I want this for two simple reasons.

    First, I think everyone should be trained to protect, and to actually be involved. Especially those on the fast track to the top law firms and Wall Street via the best schools, etc. It will do them a world of good to know the other side.

    Secondly, a professional military class cannot be good, in the long run especially, for the country. I heard too many military criticize Clinton, and before him Jimmy Carter. Think back to Rome.

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    COs (none / 0) (#38)
    by Jen M on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:58:13 PM EST
    will be a problem

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    COs (none / 0) (#39)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 09:10:37 PM EST
    COs (none / 0) (#40)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 09:11:29 PM EST
    COs??

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    COs.... (1.00 / 1) (#59)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Dec 25, 2006 at 01:31:45 PM EST
    Oh.. The light just dawned... They don't have to kill anyone. They can be cooks, clerks, medics.. Actually very few military ever get into combat.

    Refuse to serve? Do triple the time in jail.

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    I've stated... (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 01:40:13 PM EST
    in the past my support for a draft, as long as there are no loopholes for the rich and connected.

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    You with me?? (none / 0) (#28)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 06:48:15 PM EST
    Not a draft. Universal Service for everyone. No loop  holes.

    You with me??

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    Did anyone else notice ... (none / 0) (#25)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 05:29:56 PM EST
    ... that ppj advocated the murder of a former Supreme Court justice, US senators, congressperson, atty general, sec of def, presidential advisors, governors, sec's of state all in one post?

    Geez, Jeralyn, I would have thought that would be grounds for dismissal from this site, if not actual charges filed by authorities.

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    Sorry if it wasn't clear enough (none / 0) (#26)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 05:35:32 PM EST
    these people are the ones ppj wants murdered.

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    Hugs and hugs (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 07:01:09 PM EST
    Gee Sailor, extreme predjuice to me means ignoring the Iraqi Surrendering Report.

    What in the world does it mean to you???

    Hugs and hugs big guy.

    And please don't hit me with your marlin spike..

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    Huh? (none / 0) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:34:00 AM EST
    I wonder if the person making that statement understands that it is possible that the son or daughter actually have minds of their own, and at some point the parents must release them from their parental clutches and see if they have raised a functioning person or a robot capable of making their own decisions.

    That would include deciding if they want to vote for a (likely) Demo politican who has demonstrated a startling lack of insight.


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    Besides the point (none / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:44:29 AM EST
    The key concept is not actually sending your child but putting your self in the shoes of a parent whose child has gone to war.

    I know it is tough for you. Empathy is not something you have much experience with.

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    Oh, I can think I can do that. (none / 0) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 07:15:25 PM EST
    I watched my Grandparents worry over three sons and two son-in-laws...

    And I remember my Mom crying when I went.

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    I used to be humble (none / 0) (#10)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 09:19:10 AM EST
    but I have no time for that anymore.

    Bill Murray said it best in "Scrooged": "We should treat everyone as if it were christmas every day."

    So try to be courteous to your fellow shoppers. It won't waste your time to let a couple more cars pass in front of you. It goes a long way to give up your spot in line to someone with just a couple of items. Arrogance and inconsideration are not infectious diseases. You don't get them from others. Stand your ground and be patient and considerate, despite what seems like two million ass***es out there. Smile in the face of anger. Show more friendsip in this horrible time of war. Buy books as gifts. Let's set people to READING again.

    JM,
    Thank you just doesn't say it, so here's a ninth gift for you. If you like, you can return it if it's the wrong size!  

    And here's a couple things for my fellow hetero guys and gay gals from me.

    Hey, you wanted LINKS!

    Happy Holidays to ALL.

    But not those kind of links (none / 0) (#12)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:33:35 AM EST
    Links to bloggers to boost their traffic this holiday week, not photos.  

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    Never have I been happier (none / 0) (#14)
    by Jen M on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:35:43 AM EST
    that my innitials are JM!

    <beg>

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    U 2, Che (none / 0) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 07:19:06 PM EST
    gifts and such (none / 0) (#18)
    by scribe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 11:11:21 AM EST
    When I give gifts for Christmas - I try to limit it to about $30 or $40 per person.  If they need something that falls in that price range, they're gonna get it.

    If they don't need anything in that price range, or if it would be presumptuous to buy it for them (i.e., if they're not close friends or family) they're going to get wine.  In the case of the few people I know who don't drink, they get something similar - one guy who smokes cigars got a selection from a local shop where they make them on site.  Friends and friendly neighbors get a plate of cookies  (as I write this, there's a batch of lebkuchen dough rising in the oven).

    Everyone and I mean everyone, even the real jerks, gets a smile and good manners.  (Though, for the jerks in traffic, they might get a smile and polite how-do-you-do while I'm flipping them off - somehow, doing it that way seems even more infuriating to the recipient).

    For the life of me, I cannot comprehend how people spend literally thousands on stuff that, at best, isn't worth the money spent on it.  A few years back, it seemed everyone I knew had kids in the 6-10 year/old range.  Stock in Duncan Yo-Yos went through the roof as I was buying them in bulk.  Parental feedback was what you'd expect - the kids (and dads) played more with the yo-yo than with the other more sophisticated stuff.

    I guess the point is, the holiday isn't about extravagance (except in the kitchen, especially if you're going to the Dinner of the Seven Fishes), and when people get sidetracked by the advertising and all, their enjoyment of the holiday is diminished.  The holiday is about love, after all - not gushy romantic love, but the honest recognition that we are all people, and each is as deserving as any other of respect as such, of having their integrity (all flavors) unassaulted, and of living in a world where justice - not legalities in service of "power" - is the single rule.  These are aspirations, but what better aspirations could one have?

    Kind of like Martin Luther King Day? (none / 0) (#19)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 11:27:04 AM EST
    The holiday is about love, after all - not gushy romantic love, but the honest recognition that we are all people, and each is as deserving as any other of respect as such, of having their integrity (all flavors) unassaulted, and of living in a world where justice - not legalities in service of "power" - is the single rule.

    Funny that we need a holiday to remind us of this. That we forget, must be one of the downsides of 'progress'.

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    I agree absolutely (none / 0) (#20)
    by aw on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 11:40:30 AM EST
    I love to cook and bake.  I get a big kick out of baking Buche de Noel filled with chocolate mousse and iced with chocolate buttercream and decorated with fancy French sugar figures (alas, I'm at the end of my supply and can't get them anymore); you can't get stuff like that in a bakery around here.  I'm putting cookie plates together for my friends and neighbors, too.  In my family, we draw names now just for the fun of it, nobody really needs anything.  Grandma, like most elderly people, doesn't want more stuff, already has 2 dozen flannel nightgowns.  I tell everyone to give her consumable treats that she might not buy for herself, like a good bottle of sherry.


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    You are so right scribe..... (none / 0) (#64)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 26, 2006 at 02:33:58 PM EST
    I go to my sisters, probably a thousand dollars worth of stuff under the tree....but what are the kids playing with?  The bubble wrap.  Sitting in a circle around a sheet of bubble wrap having a ball.

    Not the Barbie Beach House, not the Cabbage Patch, not the Bratz...but the bubble wrap.

    For some reason, seeing that gave me hope for the future.

     

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    From the mouths of babes (none / 0) (#21)
    by jondee on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 01:39:19 PM EST
    When will we go, over mountains and shores, to hail the birth of new labor, new wisdom, the flight of tyrants and demons, the end of superstition, to be the first to adore...Christmas on earth!

      Arthur Rimbaud

    Turki al-Faisal's departure explained (none / 0) (#23)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:23:34 PM EST

    But the woes within the royal family reflect a tug of war over how to handle foreign policy. Eighteen months ago, Prince Bandar bin Sultan ended a legendary 22-year career as the face of Saudi Arabia in the United States. Word at the time was that he was bored, preferring his palatial Aspen, Colo., lodge to Washington. As it turns out, however, Bandar has secretly visited Washington almost monthly over the past year -- and is at least as pivotal today in influencing U.S. policy as he was in his years as ambassador.

    Last week, his successor, Turki, abruptly resigned from the post -- partly, sources close to the royal family said, because of Bandar's back-channel trips to meet with top U.S. officials, including Vice President Cheney and national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley.

    WaPo

    It just so happens that Turki is for opening relations with Iraq, and Bandar is dead against it.

    Bomb 'could flood New York subway within hours' (none / 0) (#24)
    by dutchfox on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 05:10:22 PM EST
    Here's a gift for your fearstocking.

    A US government-funded institute specialising in the analysis of security threats has found that rail tunnels connecting Manhattan to mainland NewJersey could be flooded within hours if they were attacked by even relatively small bombs.

    The analysis, based on work by the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and leaked to the New York Times, suggested that the network of tunnels was more vulnerable than had been thought. A bomb that could be carried easily on to a train could make a 50 sq ft (about 4.6 sq metre) hole in the side of the tunnels and potentially breach both sides, the analysis found. More than 1m gallons of water would enter the tunnel every minute, putting at risk the lives of up to 900 passengers - the capacity of a crowded train. About 230,000 people travel every day through four train tunnels that lie along the bed of the Hudson river. The concerns over the fragility of these tunnels are thought to apply equally to several rail tunnels that connect Manhattan to Brooklyn and Queens under the East River.

    Guardian link

    What's the matter? (none / 0) (#27)
    by David at Kmareka on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 06:01:20 PM EST
    Don't you trust President Bush to protect the citizens of this great nation from harm and to ensure that any potentially vulnerable targets are appropriately fortified?

    Read on, MacDuff: Incurious George Receives A Report Card

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    So far (none / 0) (#31)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 07:03:35 PM EST
    Cute David.... Of course in this game, only results count.

    So far it is Geroge 100, the Left 0.


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    Wow, just wondering... (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by David at Kmareka on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:35:12 PM EST
    What color is the sky on your planet? And who is this "Geroge" you speak of? Does he rule your world? He must to have such a lopsided and clearly contrived score. Perhaps mathematics is neither his nor your strong suit. My tallying suggests a number of alternative scores:



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    There you go again.. (1.00 / 1) (#46)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 10:19:39 AM EST
    Check this out. We live in a constitutional republic with democratic methods. That means we vote for people to serve for a fixed period of time.

    George W Bush is and will be President for about two years and about a month.

    So all the figures you cite are meaningless, especially the approval poll, when it comes to Bush.

    On other words, we do not have a parliament and the government doesn't fall on a no confidence vote.
    If you like that form of government Canada is just to the north and England is an overnight plane ride away.

    Having control of Congress will allow the Demos to introduce bills, start investigations and chair committees. It will also require that they have solutions and plans with their complaints and can't whine anymore. That they won't do this is a given.

    Like the Repubs before them the Demos do not have a veto proof majority, and of course, there is the filibuster.

    I am hopeful that the Demos come forth with their plan for the war and let's put national defense up for debate. It is past time for this subject to be decided and everyone's true positions be understood.

    I am also hopeful that the Demos will bring National Health Care forward, rationalize our drug laws and pass laws giving gays the right to marry who they please and eliminate "ear marking." There are other  matters but this would be a good start.

    If they will do those four things they have 2008 sewed up.

    In the meantime, thanks for being my secretary and manual type spell checker. Stick around. You will have many other opportunities to demonstrate your talent.

    In the meantime, I like my coffee hot and sweet and cleaning dropped of on Monday and picked up on Friday.  ;-) Do you also do windows??

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    Sigh (none / 0) (#47)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 10:40:33 AM EST
    Xmas eve and all you have to offer is trolling with insults?

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    Geroge??? (none / 0) (#34)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:28:55 PM EST
    100? On the breathalyzer? There 'e goes agin....

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    LOL !!! (none / 0) (#49)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 11:12:24 AM EST
    Heh! It's that old naval aviation fantasy again, I guess. He only thought he could fly.

    But he flopped. ;-)

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    only results count? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:42:27 PM EST
    Then list a few, instead of just your # of points against him.

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    I (none / 0) (#42)
    by aw on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 12:23:19 AM EST
    prefer to take the ferry.

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    But if you take the fairies...oh...nevermind. (none / 0) (#51)
    by Bill Arnett on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 01:33:05 PM EST
    Merry Christmas (none / 0) (#37)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 08:49:09 PM EST
    And a great holiday season to everyone!

    The (none / 0) (#43)
    by aw on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 12:26:08 AM EST
    same to you Edger, and everyone.

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    A Blog Worth Your Attention (none / 0) (#41)
    by Randinho on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:10:29 PM EST
    I recommend highly Adam ISacson's blog Plan Colombia and Beyond. Adam coördinates the Center for International Policy's Colombia Program and his commentary on Latin America, especially Colombia is second to no one.

    Smile (none / 0) (#44)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 07:40:27 AM EST
    Big Discussion on the New Left over at MyDD (none / 0) (#45)
    by MetaData on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 09:10:35 AM EST
    There is a long and interesting discussion about the best books on the 1960s and the New Left at Mydd.

    As I suspected, so many of the familiar names that post at MyDD were active in the various political movements of the 1960s, civil rights, anti-vietnam, anti-imperialism. Everyone I knew from the period who really cared, still do.

    That's a (none / 0) (#52)
    by Che's Lounge on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 03:48:14 PM EST
    fantastic comments thread to the Mydd article. There are some great references and commentary by many who lived through it.

    Iran (none / 0) (#53)
    by squeaky on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 05:07:34 PM EST
    Scott Ritter and Seymor Hirsch discuss Iran and Israel. They challenge the notion that American and Israeli interests are not identical. This notion should be obvious but somehow it is very muddy water. Democracy Now!

    Iran response (none / 0) (#54)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 07:45:18 PM EST
    MIDDLE EAST NEWS
    U.N. will regret nuclear sanctions

    TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran vowed Sunday to push forward with efforts to enrich uranium and to change its relations with the international nuclear watchdog, after the U.N. Security Council imposed sanctions designed to stop the country's disputed nuclear efforts.
    .......

    Iran: 'Full speed' on nuclear program

    Earlier Sunday, Iran's top nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani said the resolution made his country more "decisive in realizing our nuclear aims."

    "From Sunday morning, we will begin activities at Natanz -- site of 3,000-centrifuge machines -- and we will drive it with full speed. It will be our immediate response to the resolution," Iran's Kayhan newspaper quoted Larijani as saying.



    Surging (none / 0) (#55)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 10:26:52 PM EST
    LA Times, December 23, 2006
    Generals: More troops needed in Iraq
    Commanders made their decision before meeting with Defense Secretary Gates.

    WASHINGTON -- Top U.S. military commanders in Iraq have decided to recommend a "surge" of fresh American combat forces, eliminating one of the last remaining hurdles to proposals being considered by President Bush for a troop increase, a defense official familiar with the plan said Friday.


    Video: Kristol believes Bush mulling more than 'short term surge'


    Are they floating a trial balloon ... (none / 0) (#57)
    by Sailor on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 10:56:26 PM EST
    ... or just another pinata filled with death?
    Although the president offered no specifics, other U.S. officials said the administration is preparing plans to bolster the nation's permanent active-duty military with as many as 70,000 additional troops.


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    Iranian diplomats held by US in Baghdad (none / 0) (#56)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 10:42:48 PM EST
    U.S. is detaining Iranians caught in raids in Iraq
    IHT, Dec 24, 2006
    BAGHDAD: The American military is holding at least four Iranians in Iraq, including men the Bush administration called senior military officials, who were seized in a pair of raids late last week aimed at people suspected of conducting attacks on Iraqi security forces, according to senior Iraqi and American officials in Baghdad and Washington.

    The Bush administration made no public announcement of the politically delicate seizure of the Iranians, though in response to specific questions the White House confirmed Sunday that the Iranians were in custody

    Gordon D. Johndroe, the spokesman for the National Security Council, said two Iranian diplomats were among those initially detained in the raids.



    Would that be these ... (none / 0) (#58)
    by Sailor on Sun Dec 24, 2006 at 11:18:53 PM EST
    Reuters SA... (none / 0) (#61)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 26, 2006 at 09:16:49 AM EST
    ...reported 25 minutes ago that Saddam Hussein has lost his appeal and according to Iraqi High Tribunal rules must be executed within 30 days. link

    Here is a point form (none / 0) (#62)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 26, 2006 at 09:26:22 AM EST
    chronology of his life: link

    Of course, if he hadn't been such a JERK he might not be in this predicament:

    WHY SADDAM HAD TO GO
    "Control is what it's all about," one oilman told me. "It's not about getting the oil, it's about controlling oil's price."


    THIS REALLY SUCKS !!! :-/ (none / 0) (#63)
    by Edger on Tue Dec 26, 2006 at 01:34:35 PM EST
    Tomi Rae Hynie, James Brown's partner and mother of their 5 year old son has been locked out of the house she shared with Brown...
    ATLANTA - James Brown's lawyer said Tuesday that the late singer and his partner were not legally married and that she was locked out of his South Carolina home for estate legal reasons.

    "It's not a reflection on her as an individual," lawyer Buddy Dallas told The Associated Press. "I have not even been in the house, nor will I until appropriate protocol is followed."

    Brown's partner, backup singer Tomi Rae Hynie, was already married to a Texas man in 2001 when she married Brown, thus making her marriage to Brown null, Dallas said. He said Hynie later annulled the previous marriage, but she and Brown never remarried.



    More shell games?? (none / 0) (#65)
    by Edger on Wed Dec 27, 2006 at 08:13:03 AM EST
    I guess the wot is over now? :-/

    US tries to assure allies that extraordinary renditions are over
    December 27 2006

    The US is telling its overseas allies that it has stopped "extraordinary renditions" and needs their help to empty Guantánamo's prison cells. But human rights groups dispute this assertion and a question mark hangs over 200 "war on terror" detainees who could be held indefinitely without trial.