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German Prosecutor Issues 13 Arrest Warrants for CIA Agents

By Jeralyn, Section Terror Detainees
Posted on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 11:45:08 AM EST
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Via Scribe in the diaries:

Today, a prosecutor in Munich disclosed the existence of arrest warrants for 13 members of Ghost Air crews, relative to the kidnapping of Khaled al Masri from Macedonia to a US prison in Afghanistan. He was left to molder there for months while Condi and others debated exactly what to do with him, seeing as he really was the wrong guy. Ultimately, they had him flown back to and dumped off pretty close to the same spot he'd been kidnapped from. The US District Court has dismissed his tort suit, on the "state secrets" doctrine; he's appealing to the Fourth Circuit.

TalkLeft background on al Masri is here.

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    Extraordinary Injustice (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by David at Kmareka on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 12:27:30 PM EST
    How is it that those who espouse the holiest of ends all too often utilize the unholiest of means? On the far end of the spectrum, certain Muslim extremists abroad seem to believe that anything goes--including suicide bombings, beheadings, and other sorts of mayhem--as they wage jihad against their enemies. Somewhere slightly to the left of these zealots on the spectrum, certain neoconservatives here seem to believe that anything goes--including torture, extraordinary rendition, indefinite detention, and the like--as the U.S. wages its war on terror against the aforementioned extremists (and anyone who even remotely appears to support or resemble them). Both the Muslim extremists and the American neocons believe that their cause is just and righteous and the actions they take in pursuit of such justifiable. However, regardless of their beliefs, the wrongs they commit or sanction are still morally and legally wrong. They are still harmful. And, as such, they are deserving of public censure and accountability.  It is nice to see the German courts taking that stance and pursuing the matter.

    It is ridiculous to compare (1.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Pancho on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 01:46:41 PM EST
    "neoconservatives" to muslim extremists. They INTENTIONALLY kill as many civilians as possible without provocation: see 9/11.  

    We would leave them alone if they would leave us alone. The reverse cannot be said.

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    We have never left them alone..... (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:53:39 PM EST
    We've been f*cking with them for approx. 60 years.

    I think if we left them alone they'd leave us alone.  Lets pull our military bases out of their countries, be an honest broker of peace, justice and equality...and see what happens.

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    BS (none / 0) (#9)
    by squeaky on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 01:56:02 PM EST
    Neocon philosophy (Strauss) embraces war as the ideal tool to be used to control the masses. That is their own masses. People are easily controlled when they are in a constant state of fear.

    Creating an enemy to kill is a fundamental piece of the neocon strategy. If it were not the Muslims it would be some other people.

    The neocons that have control over our contry are at least as radical as any radical muslim.

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    Pancho (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 02:00:20 PM EST
    It is already widely known that 9/11 was retribution. It's also widely known that neocons INTENTIONALLY kill as many civilians as possible without provocation.

    We would leave them alone if they would leave us alone?

    You're looking at the picture upside down and backwards.

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    Edder - We deserved it! (none / 0) (#11)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:19:34 PM EST
    So you say that we deserved 9/11?

    All those Little Eichmans, eh?

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    Typical ppj distortion (none / 0) (#13)
    by squeaky on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:25:17 PM EST
    Is english your second language? Spin your first?

    Edger said that the perpetrator of 9/11 did it for the sake of retribution and that is widely known.

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    Retribution (none / 0) (#14)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:50:53 PM EST

    Retribution for unchaste women.  Stalin starved the Ukraine small farmers for retribution.  Hitler gassed the Jews for retribution.  Pol Pot murdered the literate for retribution.

    Just about every mass murdering whack job figures out a way to justify the blood he spills as retribution.  You need not be party to that drivel.

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    Retribution? (none / 0) (#15)
    by squeaky on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:55:06 PM EST
    Good point Amir.

    And then it follows that we destroyed Iraq for retribution.

    Guess that we are not in very good company as the history books will show.

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    WE did not destroy (1.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Pancho on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 11:55:03 PM EST
    Iraq; the terrorists did, knowing that every time they blew somewthing up, tools like you would blame America first

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    blame (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by eric on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:08:20 AM EST
    "Blame America First".  I see right-wing radio has taught you well.

    Give me a break.

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    Pancho (none / 0) (#52)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:24:13 AM EST
    is a good example of why they call radio broadcasting programming, I suppose.

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    Amir is just trying to help everyone (none / 0) (#17)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:01:14 PM EST
    avoid confusing their drivels with their other drivels.

    Right Amir?

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    Neocons, intent, Israel (none / 0) (#18)
    by roy on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:01:55 PM EST
    Your link doesn't support your claim.  For starters, given how many bullets Israeli soldiers have left, and how many Lebanese civilians aren't dead, the claim that they killed "as many civilians as possible" is wild hyperbole at best.

    Airports are infrastructure for both military and civilian use.  So any civilians killed in the attack fall into the "collateral damage" category, not the "intentionally targeted" category.  You may not find the distinction morally significant, but lots of others do.

    And to say that Israel was not provoked is patently false.  They may have overreacted, but it was still a reaction to their soldiers being taken.

    And I'm not sure it says anything at all about neocons.  Occupying enemy territory in response to an attack is neither neo- nor -con.

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    It was a reference to (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:28:03 PM EST
    1982 and Bin Ladin's perception of the US Sixth Fleet helping Israel bomb civilian apartment buildings over their occupants, and his statement that that was his first motivation for the idea of a 9/11 as retribution... in response to Pancho's "We would leave them alone if they would leave us alone"... to show that the reverse of his statement is the probable reality - they would not be motivated to attack America if they didn't perceive America attacking them.

    IOW, to end terrorism - remove their motivation.

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    I misread (none / 0) (#21)
    by roy on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:47:50 PM EST
    My browser got confused and the condition spread.  I thought you linked to the story, not a comment attached to it.

    I was still learning how to speak in sentences in 1982, so I won't critique.

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    It does (none / 0) (#26)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 05:00:37 PM EST
    open quickly to the thread but very slowly to the comment today for some reason - though I've noticed that slowness for the past few days when opening hotlinks to comments (in case Colin is reading)

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    Re: I won't critique. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 08:28:40 PM EST
    Please do Roy. Historical record is historical record. And your reasoning skills are usually second to none, IMO.

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    Roy folded under edger faster than (none / 0) (#28)
    by bx58 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 08:42:04 PM EST
    superman on laundry day.

    I grew up in NY. One of my first memories of that dreadful feeling you get about injustice came when I read the NY papers as a kid.

     A Palestinian would kill four or five Israelis, the headlines blared, a few days later on page 12 it would read 200 to 300 killed in bombing and strafing runs on Palestinian refugee camps by the vaunted Israeli Air Force. This happened all the time.The people of this country don't know half of it

    The Israelis made it a practice to bomb the crap out've the Palestinians whenever some headline grabbing event distracted the media eg, hurricanes,overblown crime stories...

    Do you have to even think about why these people are so p*ssed off?

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    Roy didn't "fold" by any stretch, bx58 (none / 0) (#29)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 08:50:43 PM EST
    I respect and value roys opinion. Quite highly, as a matter of fact. He penetrates quickly and clearly to the core of anything he directs his intellect at, in my experience. If he has something to say on the subject, he'll say it, and it will be credible and honest, and make sense. I wish I had even a shadow of his reasoning capabilities.

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    Edger (none / 0) (#31)
    by bx58 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 09:22:50 PM EST
    If roy has any great reasoning powers I missed it.

    All you have to do is read his comments about the Israeli bombing of Lebanon last summer. They were "provoked?" Shades of the "Polish border incursions" of August 1939.

    Don't you wish we could know what the final vision of the Middle East is to these people?

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    to which people? (none / 0) (#33)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 09:31:27 PM EST


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    Crazy rapturists,pissed-off Jewish people, (none / 0) (#35)
    by bx58 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 10:02:54 PM EST
    war-profiteers, the oil concerns. Take your pick.

    What do these people want in the long run?

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    I don't know. (none / 0) (#41)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:43:33 AM EST
    I have my thoughts on it, but I really don't know - If you mean inside themselves. Externally? They want power and control. But why? To do what with, and why again? It's always been my suspicion that most control freaks are compensating for insecurity. The deeper and more terrifying their insecurities the more control they want.

    Curious that they end up coming up with a name like "war on terror" and that most of those they attack in it's name have never attacked them, instead of calling it a "war on those who attack", while the average person just finds ways to get along with others.

    It was noted here recently - I forget by who - that only crazy people  go after power positions like president, vice-president, AG, Senator, etc., and that the more sheer power inherent in the position the crazier the ones chasing the position are. Scared kids?

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    You may as well leave me out of it at this point (none / 0) (#36)
    by roy on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 10:28:51 PM EST
    I was trying to refute a heavy-handed argument by Edger.  It turns out that Edger didn't make that argument.  I had misread.  Not "misunderstood", but "misread", I literally read the wrong text.  I folded because I was fighting an imaginary foe.

    So I wouldn't expect you to see any great reasoning skill there.  I won't be pasting a copy of this thread into my resumé.

    If you want to make a more nuanced criticism of Israel, go for it.  I won't be participating.  Just don't read too much into the fact that my rebuttal to a heavy-handed imaginary argument won't work against a nuanced real argument.

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    Thanks (none / 0) (#39)
    by roy on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 12:55:17 AM EST
    I'm not sure how to take a compliment like that without seeming arrogant, but I'm OK with that.  So, thanks.  It's always a pleasure to knock heads with you.

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    Funny - I thought of it as mostly (none / 0) (#40)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:29:38 AM EST
    description, and partly compliment. It's honest feeling from reading what you post here. You're welcome, roy.

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    You're forgetting something (none / 0) (#16)
    by Al on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:56:41 PM EST
    We would leave them alone if they  would leave us alone.

    The Iraqis left us alone, and they got destroyed anyway. In fact, the opposite is true: Al Qaeda perpetrated 9-11, and they've been left pretty much alone.

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    War (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Skyho on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 12:29:47 PM EST
    A presumption of war never allows one to presume guilt.

    It did not work during WWII and should not, in a much more benign environment, work now.

    bin Laden scratched our skin, it being thin enough, and like Pandoras box, all sorts of logical errors, erroneous presumptions and just plain bigotry sprang forth.

    America, taking her place with just any old third world country.

    Sigh.  another hopeful experiment taken down by thieves and thugs.

    Skyho's scratch (none / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:23:15 PM EST
    United 93? United 93? This is Cleveland Center.

    We have lost contact with the radar target..

    Tell those who have relatives and friends still alive about the "scratch," SkyHo.

    Of course I would advise you not being too close when you do so.


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    Sure (none / 0) (#37)
    by scarshapedstar on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 10:29:12 PM EST
    And then you can go tell the family of a dead soldier that Baghdad is safer than Philadelphia and that having armor on the humvee would have just made him die slower.

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    And Iraq was behind the hijacking of United 93? (none / 0) (#62)
    by Molly Bloom on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 03:26:45 PM EST
    I expect "those who have relatives and friends still alive"  would have preferred Bush to finish the job in Afghanistan.

    There is a difference between Afghanistan and Iraq not toe mention a difference between OBL and  Saddam. There is no evidence that Saddam and Iraq was behind 9-11.  Even the village idiot, GWB, has conceded that.

    People who claim to be National Security voters ought to be able to tell the difference and if not, they should pick another issue.



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    I wish.... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:54:41 PM EST
    the Germans luck in bringing kidnappers to justice.

    We're at war (none / 0) (#1)
    by jondee on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 12:13:14 PM EST
    now bend over and dont forget to say "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

    Too bad (none / 0) (#2)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 12:24:14 PM EST
    one of those warrants doesn't have the name Donald Henry Rumsfeld on it.

    If the jackboot were on the other foot (none / 0) (#5)
    by roy on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 12:58:24 PM EST
    Can you imagine the uproar here if Germany had nabbed a US citizen on our soil?

    Only if (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by squeaky on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 01:09:56 PM EST
    The person was a white christian or possibly jew.

    If the person were brown or Muslim sounding name, the US would take some credit and go on about how they were winning the WOT and germany was helping.

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    Well.. (none / 0) (#6)
    by jondee on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 01:03:48 PM EST
    it's simple, they severly curtail freedom in order to preserve freedom and kill in order to save lives. Honest.

    I've updated the story, as it's developing (none / 0) (#19)
    by scribe on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:03:15 PM EST
    It's over in the diary.

    And, Jimakappj?

    Puhleese.

    You'ge going nowhere trying to make out of this something other than a positive development for human rights and The Rule of Law.  Your comments seem about as likely to make sense as the pig's ear my dog left in the back seat of the car will turn into a silk purse (or anything other than a chew toy).  So, conserve electrons.  OK?

    scribe (1.00 / 1) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:53:58 PM EST
    Your dog left a pig's ear in the back seat of your car?

    And you want to talk about making sense??

    Gesh.

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    Makes perfect sense (none / 0) (#63)
    by Molly Bloom on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 03:32:01 PM EST
    if you have a dog that chews on dried pig's ears. Cost co sells them. My pup leaves them on the couch.



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    Didn't you? scribe? (1.00 / 1) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 04:57:10 PM EST
    BTW - You did see who the comment was made to, didn't you?

    Well, didn't you??

    And you did note that

    And you did note SkyHo's words:

    bin Laden scratched our skin,

    Didn't you??

    Hmmmm, guess you didn't.

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    Jim (none / 0) (#30)
    by Che's Lounge on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 09:00:42 PM EST
    Skyho was painting a larger picture, though I would not use the term scratch either. Skyho was comparing our loss to the many, many losses accrued in just the last few years on the other continents, which dwarfs the loss of life on 9/11. That is not a comment on personal loss. It's not personal, so don't personalize it.

    Che (none / 0) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 09:28:55 PM EST
    I understood that SkyHo was attempting to make a larger statement. In this particular statement it was an agreement with Edger that 9/11 was about
    retribution because of things we had done, so we deserved it.

    I just wanted to make a comment that indicated that I thought his comment was BS, as I did for Edger's.

    The truth of the matter is that the Left, and some on this blog, are starting to show their colors regarding Jews. That, of course explains a lot when you start asking yourself... Why would they take that position....because we have helped the Jews and this makes the radical moslems hate us...

    Link

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    Jim, you just got that? (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by bx58 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 09:40:15 PM EST
    Why are the muslims upset with us Jim? Because we buy their oil? They're sitting on the richest land on the globe and we want it without paying for it. You think it's only Biblical that the state of Israel was formed?

    This all started 97 yrs ago give or take a few yrs. Give a hoot.

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    Jim's comment above replying to Che (none / 0) (#42)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:46:06 AM EST
    here, is the worst kind of of disingenuous, misleading, outright lying, blatantly and intentionally obtuse denial filled trolling that he's has ever come up with here.

    Can anyone explain why?

    I was wrong I guess. (none / 0) (#45)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:09:13 AM EST
    I should probably have included his comment below (#43) as well. My bad.

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    Of course, I probably should (none / 0) (#46)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:27:38 AM EST
    cut the poor guy some slack. Jim has nightmares with all kinds and shapes of crazy left wing moonbats filling his head and driving him loopy. He can't seem to get away from them. Most often he has these nightmares while he's wide awake, at his keyboard.

    He can use a bit of slack. To hang himself with, like below.

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    Edger betrayed....and proven wrong (none / 0) (#51)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:20:05 AM EST
    I direct your attention to the comments from GrannyBgood just several inches down...

    and I always thought they were behind the London Bombings!)  and only got as far as page 45 before
    mt PC started acting wierd and I got the error message "This PC has performed an Illegal opperation" and got shut down. Then I remembered: Israel "acquired" all our our major communications infrastructure back in 2001....RIGHT BEFORE 9/11

    I rest my case.

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    Correction (none / 0) (#55)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:47:33 AM EST
    "and driving him loopy" shoud read "that have driven him loopy" ;-)

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    I always enjoy bringing up UN Res 242... (none / 0) (#60)
    by Bill Arnett on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 01:06:51 PM EST
    ...every time someone tries to allege that Israel is the heroic defenders of the rule of law and savior to the Middle east.

    UN Res 242:

    The Security Council,

    Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

    Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

    Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter,

    Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

    Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
    Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

    Affirms further the necessity

    For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;
    For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;
    For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;

    Requests the Secretary General to designate a Special Representative to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and principles in this resolution;

    Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the progress of the efforts of the Special Representative as soon as possible.

    So, as all can see, the Jews have always been respectful of the UN, its resolutions, and abides by what the Security Council desires - NOT.

    I have nothing against Israelis but I do get sick unto the point of death at all the proclamations of how perfect, just, and law-abiding they are in their affairs.

    UN Resolution has been "on the books" and defied by the Israelis since 1967. Maybe they just haven't had time to comply with the wishes of the world.

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    Quit kidding us. (none / 0) (#64)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 07:04:21 PM EST
    Bill A - The problem with your defense of Hezabollah is that Iran re-armed Hezbollah under the cover of UN 242. Do you think no reads the news? Do you think that no one says, "Where in the world did all those missiles come from?"

    So quit kidding us.

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    Just making a living (none / 0) (#65)
    by squeaky on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 07:42:09 PM EST
    "Where in the world did all those missiles come from?"
    Most likely the same arms dealers that sold Israel the cluster bombs.

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    Edger, Bx and et al (none / 0) (#43)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:37:20 AM EST
    Read your own words.

    [new] Crazy rapturists,pissed-off Jewish people, (none / 0) (#35)
    by bx58 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 10:02:54 PM EST
    war-profiteers, the oil concerns. Take your pick.

    What do these people want in the long run?

    I would say the Jews want to be Left alone on their postage stamp size patch of land.

     

    Edger (none / 0) (#31)
    by bx58 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 09:22:50 PM EST
    If roy has any great reasoning powers I missed it.

    All you have to do is read his comments about the Israeli bombing of Lebanon last summer. They were "provoked?" Shades of the "Polish border incursions" of August 1939.

    (So you deny that Hezabollah struck first, and then you associate the Jews with the Nazis? Your position re the Jews shines through very clearly?)

    Don't you wish we could know what the final vision of the Middle East is to these people?

    "final vision" "Polish Border incursions"

    Pancho (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 02:00:20 PM EST
    It is already widely known that 9/11 was retribution. It's also widely known that neocons INTENTIONALLY kill as many civilians as possible without provocation.

    We would leave them alone if they would leave us alone?

    You're looking at the picture upside down and backwards.

    So your position is that by aiding the Jews we have given the radical moslems the right to attack us. By that logic you, at best, indicate that you have no support for the Jews because, as I am sure you must know, with that help, they could not have survived.

    I note you ignore the fact that one of the reasons we went into Kosovo was the killing of innocent Moslems.

    I note you ignore the fact that we went into Somalia because of the killings and starvations by the various war lords.

    I note you ignore the fact that we helped the rebels in Afghanistan.

    I note that you never criticize the UN for their debacle in Rawanda.

    I note you never note that when Egypt nationalized and siezed the Suzez Canal England and France were ready to move against them. We would join in and Egypt's future was assured.

    And "crazy rapturists?" Well, we all know that the evil Jews killed Christ and were scattered to the four corners of the earth. They deserve what they get. After all, isn't that what God wants?? (sarcasm)

    You started showing your colors last summer. Now the paint continues to flak off.

    all spin (none / 0) (#61)
    by Sailor on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 02:11:06 PM EST
    I note you ignore the fact that we helped the rebels in Afghanistan.
    Should be 'we armed AQ Afghanistan and taught them how to attack a superpower.'

    Excellent work, ppj shows that the US is responsible for 9/11, we armed and supported the terrorists.

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    a word (none / 0) (#44)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:48:55 AM EST
    that's "NOT" join in

    Those "special agents" (none / 0) (#48)
    by GrannyBgood on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:08:57 AM EST
    Wouldn't it be interesting if they were also found to be Mossad double-agents?
    Has anyone here ever tried to google Mossad?
    I did yesterday, trying to reference something about their False Flag ops, and found over 100 pages, just browsing through without even opening links (They're EVERYWHERE!...Hadn't even heard of some, like the stealing of NZ passports they got caught for a couple of years ago, and I always thought they were behind the London Bombings!)  and only got as far as page 45 before
    mt PC started acting wierd and I got the error message "This PC has performed an Illegal opperation" and got shut down. Then I remembered: Israel "acquired" all our our major communications infrastructure back in 2001....RIGHT BEFORE 9/11!
    So that smarmy little pocket-toady Gonzales cam smirk a la GW and promise to be Good now about the illegal snooping, and laugh up his sleeve, because he knows his Zio-buddies are already doing it FOR him!
    (Put THAT in your precious pipes and smoke it, all you compromised patriots and Israel-Apologists!)

    ah yes Granny (none / 0) (#49)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:13:26 AM EST
    It is always those evil Jews... isn't it.

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    ppj distortion central (none / 0) (#58)
    by squeaky on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:58:25 AM EST
    It is always those evil Jews... isn't it.

    GrannyBgood said nothing about jews. The comment was about Mossad and Israel.

    Once again ppj invokes anti semitism when Israel is criticized. John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt proven right again.

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    Granny... here us a way (none / 0) (#50)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:16:01 AM EST
    you might get in contact with them.

    Link

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    ..might want to get in contact with them.. (none / 0) (#56)
    by GrannyBgood on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:52:18 AM EST
    No thanks... I'm sure they're ALREADY in my PC!

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    Tty a hat (none / 0) (#57)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:44:54 AM EST
    I am sure one of the hat models will fit your PC.

    As for the ones there, I recommend a good JuJu Man be used to get them out.

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    9/11 a "retribution"? (none / 0) (#53)
    by GrannyBgood on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:24:50 AM EST
    And 9/11 a "retribution"?!  
    No-doubt that is exactly what people are SUPPOSED to think, especially since anyone who's aware of what had been going on at the time(Sharon and Bush walking out on International Human Rights conference together after the REST of the world decided Israel's treatment of the Palestinians amounted to Crimes against Humanity, even as Sharon immediately used the ascension of the Neocons with the Bush "Installment" as an opportunity to crack down harder on them) would expect that. But there's PLENTY of new info, suppressed as it is, that points directly at Mossad involvement in 9/11, not the least of which was the capture of the Mossad agents in the white moving vans, dressed as Arabs, CELEBRATING and filming the towers collapsing (after all they don't look all that different when you dress them up right; that's why they get away with so many False flag ops blaming Arabs; plenty of DOCUMENTED instances! go Google Mossad!)
    Some of these Compromised Jewish Patriots here,who put Israels's interests above all else ought to try that little dress-up act and go live in the Occupied Territories awhile for a real eye-opener!

    Well, yes (none / 0) (#54)
    by Edger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:34:04 AM EST
    That is the other possibility.

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    How can we take you seriously? (none / 0) (#59)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 11:05:16 AM EST
    Your agreeing with Granny is further proof that rationality is not your strong suit.....

    But is is funny.

    Thanks for the laugh.

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