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Illinois Schools Institute "Moment of Silence" to Pray

The Illinois House today joined the Senate and overrode Gov. Rod Blagojevich's veto of the mandated moment of silence at the start of the school day.

Students from kindergarten through high school will be allowed to silently pray in whatever faith they practice or simply sit and reflect quietly. Illinois teachers and students have had the option of doing so since 2002, but it wasn't mandated.

The Illinois House voted to override Gov. Rod Blagojevich's late August veto of the silent-moment measure. The governor cited concerns about the separation of church and state.

This is ridiculous. Let the kids pray at home if it's so important to their parents. Prayer does not belong in our schools. These bills are succeeding, even in the courts, because of the "forced silence" alternative. They're not fooling anyone though, they are prayer bills designed to instill religion.

Rep. Lou Lang (D-Skokie), who is often at odds with the governor, said he supported Blagojevich's veto because the legislation is really about prayer in schools. "Why we must mandate this is way beyond me," Lang said. "It's wrong from so many points of view."

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    View Point Of A Student (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Christina on Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 11:36:47 PM EST
    At first, the 15 seconds of silence seemed a little crazy. I did not understand what it was for at first. Soon, I heard it was linked for a time to pray. It is nice to have 15 seconds off 1st period everyday but it is a waste of time to pass this law. Out of everything else that is going on, they DO NOT need to be giving 15 seconds of silence. If someone wanted to pray, DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER CLASS. I dont know if he understands one can pray in the middle of chaos. It does not have to be silent.

    Any other ideas? Anyone Agree??


    Whatever happened (none / 0) (#1)
    by scarshapedstar on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 07:26:57 AM EST
    to breaks between class? If you have enough time to dip snuff in the bathroom, you have enough time to say a freakin' prayer.

    I've got no problem.... (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:14:33 AM EST
    with a moment of silence...though I think the Illinois govt. surely has better things to do with their time.

    sense of proportion (none / 0) (#3)
    by diogenes on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:51:33 AM EST
    Before the Supreme Court's rulings on school prayer there were overt Christian prayers in schools all over America.  Agnostics didn't keel over from poor self-esteem and Jews did so well in school in the 1920's that there were Jew quotas to keep them from dominating the Ivy League.

    however nasty (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jen M on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 01:14:19 PM EST
    it is for the children.

    Its good.

    Parent

    The sky is falling. (none / 0) (#4)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:36:26 AM EST


    Oh goody (none / 0) (#6)
    by aj12754 on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 04:19:27 PM EST
    maybe next year they can institute a moment of self-esteem, and the year after that a moment of empathy.  Maybe a moment of cosmic awareness the following year.  Jeeeezzzzz.  

    How do you feel about (none / 0) (#7)
    by Pancho on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 04:30:25 PM EST
    foot baths for Muslims in public schools?

    I wonder (none / 0) (#9)
    by tnthorpe on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 05:53:20 PM EST
    how many Zen Buddhist students will achieve satori during this minute of meditation?

    Or is this not really about religion, but the same faux religiosity that permeates domestic politics like stink in a sewer?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm (none / 0) (#10)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 06:17:14 PM EST
    I did my best praying before Chemistry tests...

    But why get your jockeys in a clump over a minute of silence in which the student can do what they choose???

    That gives them freedom of religion as well as freedom from religion....

    Unoriginal?? Yes. (1.00 / 0) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:04:52 PM EST
    I see that you are ready to exclude everyone but Christians...

    Try and read this slowly so that perhaps you can grasp (I know grasping concepts is difficult for you, but you can do it if you really try.) this simple hard to misunderstand fact.

    It is a moment of silence in which the student can pray, not pray or just scope out the good looking babe two seats over....

    Parent

    Convinced you of what? (1.00 / 0) (#16)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 14, 2007 at 02:24:46 PM EST
    DA, the students can pray whenever the choose. In the middle of an Algebra class pop quiz,another of my more favorite times for a plea for divine intervention...

    Or they can pray during the "silent" time... or not at all.

    The meaning of your prayer I will leave to you.

    Parent

    hmm (none / 0) (#19)
    by Christina on Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 11:39:19 PM EST
    Agree, How does this hurt the students?
    Hmm
    I do not see how this would negativly affect my class.
    Good point

    Parent
    So what is the definition of a moment? (none / 0) (#11)
    by JSN on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:17:04 PM EST


    Depends (1.00 / 0) (#14)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:07:00 PM EST
    on whether you are sitting on a red hot stove or watching a beautiful woman walk by... (assuming you're male...)

    Parent
    a minute to think? (none / 0) (#21)
    by katmandu on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 05:47:19 PM EST
    It maybe the only thinking the average student
    indulges in while attending school.
    I don't see the big deal, uless you're scared
    they will think about sex or religion.
    But then, I'm non-religious.  This seems to
    bother Christians, athiests, and the like much
    more than people like me.