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    Poor Dick and George (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 09:24:21 AM EST
    Reality (that notorious leftist subversive) once again tosses a wrench into their plans.

    The barely reported highlight of Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Tehran for the Caspian Sea summit last week was a key face-to-face meeting with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

    A high-level diplomatic source in Tehran tells Asia Times Online that essentially Putin and the Supreme Leader have agreed on a plan to nullify the George W Bush administration's relentless drive towards launching a preemptive attack, perhaps a tactical nuclear strike, against Iran. An American attack on Iran will be viewed by Moscow as an attack on Russia.


    The Real Iran, Six Lies About Iran, And Some Consequences Of An Attack On Iran

    Heh (1.00 / 1) (#29)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 10:42:55 AM EST
    Then maybe Putin will get to decide if he really wants to go to war over Iran.

    He doesn't.

    He merely thinks that his bluff will be so beloved by the Left that he can allow Iran to develop nukes and attack Israel.

    If I were Bush I would have already, assuming the article is correct, told Putin that we will not be held hostage by such threats.

    The really scary thing is that the actions of the Left, as they did in the 60's and 70's, is encouraging not only radical Moslems, but an ex-KGB mobster.

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    When has Iran ever attacked (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 11:55:38 AM EST
    Israel in the past?

    What you and your fellow regime change loons are really worried is a MAD situation that would cancel out the next chickenhawk circle jerk.

    Funny how you always conveniantly neglect to mention   Israels 200 warheads.

    Really funny,that.

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    Heh (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 12:10:45 PM EST
    you'd have to go a long ways to find something scarier than the ambulatory psychotics who believe it's favored govt can maintain a semblance of credibility whilst borrowing billions a day to keep the economy afloat and projecting to spend upwards of a trillion dollars on self described never-ending war.

    Keep chasing Hanoi Jane around that hamster wheel your head, Jim. You'll catch her one of these years.

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    Jondee plays dumb (none / 0) (#42)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 06:05:27 PM EST
    Actually, I am not worrying about the past.

    But there is, of course, Hezabolah....Hamas...
    and assorted terrorists funded by Iran.

    But you know that.

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    October 17 - Remember that date. (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Edger on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 01:21:53 PM EST
    (while you were sleeping) Japan, China and Taiwan sold U.S. Treasuries at the fastest pace in at least five years in August.

    Japan cut its holdings by 4% to $586 Billion, China cut its holdings 2.2% to $400 Billion, and Taiwan's holdings slid 8.9% to $52 Billion... Japan's selling was at the fastest pace since 2000, China's since 2002, and Taiwan's since 2000...

    This sell off was the biggest sell off of Treasuries since Russia defaulted in 1998.

    Stick a fork in the U.S.

    We're done.

    We can't borrow any more money to kill people.

    The funny thing is that the entire world knows this. And is talking about it today. Only the Americans are kept clueless.



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    Ummm.... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 12:22:31 PM EST
    Believe it. Or not.

    Third breasts are real?

    In one recent, well-documented case, a 22-year old grew an extra breast on the bottom of her foot.  It was small in terms of breast tissue but came complete with a nipple/areola.


    Wow (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by squeaky on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 12:39:40 PM EST
    A lactal bounty for foot fetishists. BTW-men can breastfeed too.

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    Weird huh? (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 12:54:45 PM EST
    I hope nobody grows one on their forehead. Heh!

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    Btw, (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 02:37:46 PM EST
    How does Gore's Save The Planet stance jibe with his Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of Wall Street, otherwise known as Free Trade -- which seems to have, as one of it's objects, the grinding to fine powder of the poor of "The Planet"?

    Welcome to Bizarro World; where we "defend" till there's nothing left to defend, and where The Planet must be saved to continue it's role as producer of capital ripe-for-liquidation.

    See (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 05:11:27 PM EST
    all I have to do is speak your language and I get a responce.

    Why is that you guys are so obsessivly fixated on those who are generally bearly struggling to stay above water while those able to pull off the trick of outsourcing millions ofjobs overseas and being rewarded for it, never even warrent an notice.

    Easier to kick down than to stop kissing up,eh?

    PR Hacks In Iraq (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by squeaky on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 07:21:26 PM EST
    Glen Greenwald has some correspondence with a Col who denies having written to him. Same IP Address from prior emails, and same IP address from the denial email.

    OH, and the article is about military spin and the right wing blogs.

    I received this morning an unsolicited email from Col. Steven A. Boylan, the Public Affairs Officer and personal spokesman for Gen. David G. Petraeus (see UPDATE III below). The subject line of the email -- which I am publishing in full, unedited form here -- is "The growing link between the U.S. military and right-wing media and blogs," which is the title of the post I wrote earlier this week regarding the politicization of the Army in Iraq, as evidenced by its constant coordination with, and leaking to, the likes of Matt Drudge, The Weekly Standard, and the most extremist right-wing blogs -- in the TNR/Beauchamp case and also more generally.

    Glen Greenwald

    I guess (1.00 / 0) (#38)
    by Edger on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 06:41:59 AM EST
    Boylan was just hoping to find someone stupid enough to think that he was making sense. Why he tried Greenwald is a mystery, unless Boylan thinks Boylan makes sense.

    He'd have been better of writing to Hinderaker or Malkin... or the Ghoul.

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    MADD is co-opted. (1.00 / 1) (#3)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 09:01:59 AM EST
    If you don't think the open borders lobby isn't here, read this.

    Michelle Dallacroce was hopping mad when she received a letter from Mothers Against Drunk Driving demanding she change the name of her organization, Mothers Against Illegal Aliens.

    There are dozens, if not hundreds, of organizations that use the name "Mothers Against," including Mothers Against War, Mothers Against Cancer, Mothers Against Guns and Mothers Against Medical Error.

    Why MADD would single out MAIA isn't clear, although Mrs. Dallacroce has her own theory. She contends that MADD fears running afoul of immigration advocacy groups, and at least one MADD official agrees with her.

    Virginia Faircloth, president and founder of MADD's York County, S.C., chapter, resigned last week.....

    She said she was told by national leaders to remove a link on her Web site to the Jackson-Avery Foundation, an organization she started with a friend whose husband was killed by an illegal alien driving drunk.

    "They said their biggest concern was they didn't want anyone to think MADD was taking a stand on illegal immigration,"

    That same year, actor Edward James Olmos, a Hispanic, and Raul Yzaguirre, then president of the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy group, joined MADD's National Advisory Board. The plan was to help MADD reach out more effectively to Hispanic communities.

    MADD's critics say the result has been to ignore the connection between illegal aliens and drunken driving.

    "You've got La Raza infiltrating MADD. MADD's now into seatbelt safety instead of deporting illegal drunk drivers," Mrs. Dallacroce said.

    Things like this are scary.


    MADD is scary... (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 10:05:43 AM EST
    no doubt, but not because they won't align with another scary advocacy group, but because they threaten our freedom on the roadways.

    Scary and arrogant to think they own the "mothers against" term.

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    kdog (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 01:18:13 PM EST
    I could be wrong, but, I think you could be one mutilated loved one away from changing you tune about MADD.

    We've got controversy out this way with drinking and deer hunting and a big danger is that if there are no umpires in the game, unqualified people invariably declare themselves as such, and we wind up with vigilantism. Hatfields and the McCoys -- with a danger of people caught in the crossfire.

    Btw, Wingnuts worried about "open borders" should look a little more closely at the treasured "free trade" and how it effects some people in places like Mexico. No one -- but a hardcore drinker of the koolaid -- can fault a poor man for trying to feed his family.

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    Obviously not (1.00 / 1) (#24)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 09:27:23 AM EST
    As a matter of fact, if you are an illegal alien, you didn't have to be here.

    And the if Feds didn't have such a poor record of throwing you out, you wouldn't be here.

    And if you hadn't been here, you wouldn't be driving drunk and you wouldn't have killed anyone.

    But don't let simple logic get in your way.

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    Ya never know jondee.... (none / 0) (#39)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 10:49:03 AM EST
    Though I like to think if I did lose a loved one to a drunk-driver I'd still be against random dui checkpoints and an ever-lowering of the legal bac limit.

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    Dont get me wrong (none / 0) (#40)
    by jondee on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 10:58:21 AM EST
    The random check point thing drives me nuts too.
    I have a feeling you must be getting alot more of those "revenue generators" out your way tha we have here.

    Im no crusader, but I've had some hairy brushes with the drunken hick factor out this way recently that've made me rethink some of my previous positions. Plus, a couple of years back a friend lost two little kids to a drunk driver.

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    Scary Also (1.00 / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 11:02:08 AM EST
    That some bedwetters are suggesting that drunk drivers and undocumented workers bear some special connection. Most of societies ills, according to the fearful, are caused by immigrants.

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    Well, just think (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 11:15:58 AM EST
    If "the left" would quit whining about racial profiling and the borders had been sealed then al-Qaeda wouldn't have been able to set all those fires in southern California.

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    Sharia Law (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by squeaky on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 11:27:54 AM EST
    Is here.  jajjaahahhaha.

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    aaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 11:36:27 AM EST
    Quick. Bomb someone. Kill their children until they love us. Before they swarm the beaches. And build a wall along the seaboards too. Can we put an invulnerable dome over the country?

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    Invulnerable Dome (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by squeaky on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 12:08:52 PM EST
    No problem, although it will have to be built on the backs of slave labor, aka undocumented workers.... oops. Well once the borders are sealed we can kick them out.

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    Let's ask Fred Hiatt if it's ok first. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 12:16:05 PM EST
    My thanks yo B W Squeaky (1.00 / 1) (#27)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 09:58:03 AM EST
    for reminding us of how Shari law is slipping into the country:

     

    Wrong (1.00 / 2) (#15)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 12:15:06 PM CST

        A popular comic strip that poked fun at the Rev. Jerry Falwell without incident one week ago was deemed too controversial to run over the weekend because this time it took a humorous swipe at Muslim fundamentalists.

    Link

    And when US newspapers censor cartoons becaise it might "offend" some Moslems, the sky has not only fallen, it is on the ground.



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    That's a patently idiotic (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 01:21:45 PM EST
    non-point: newspapers "censor", i.e., refuse to print, cartoons they deem offensive all the time.

    Obviously what you would like is to be able to force  them to print what you want to see in print.

    You're just gonna have to keep wishing, hoping and praying for your dream military junta to eventually come along and dictate all content all the time.

    Like a true, proud, American.

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    Jondee deliberately misunderstands. (1.00 / 1) (#41)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:06 PM EST
    In case you fail to understand.

    The cartoons were shown to a Moslem staff, who found them offensive.

    The Fallwell cartoons were not.

    Knuckling under to Shari law is what is.

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    Even more scary (1.00 / 1) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 09:33:23 AM EST
    is that people on the Left, especially those who project their own bed wetting problem on others, fail to understand the even simple logic of:

    If they had not been here, they couldn't kill anyone, or at least not anyone in the US.

    Tell you what, B W Squeaky, buy a bar.  Let someone get wasted at your bar. Let them hop in their car and drive and kill someone.

    Then hire a lawyer because you are most likely going to get sued. Maybe even a charged with a criminal offense.

    You aided and abetted the drunk person. There is absolutely no difference.

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    are we saying that (none / 0) (#36)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 03:10:05 PM EST
    illegals are more likely to drink and drive than U.S citizens?

    Also, Im suprised Jim forgot to mention the threat the swarthy interlopers pose to the virginal innocence of our daughters, or the bad example they set when they "siesta" in the shade in full view of American workers.

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    On the other hand, (none / 0) (#19)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 03:34:50 PM EST
    They're a source of dirt cheap labor treasured like manna-from-Heavan as long as they pay homage to "market forces" and stay where they're needed and dont rock the boat.

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    If you want to get an increase in the price of (1.00 / 1) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 09:46:46 AM EST
    labor, then reduce the supply.

    Labor is a product.

    Open borders and unlimited immigration doesn't hurt the rich and upper middle class. They hurt the poor and middle to lower middle class by depressing wages and reducing entry level jobs.

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    Keep believing that the workers loss (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 01:28:37 PM EST
    is the investors gain, and you'll be sure to keep those workers on the move.

    people will only stay in one place and take it up the wazoo for so long.

    Unless your talking about "The Passion" of the typical masochistic Bush supporter.

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    Iraq Declares War? (1.00 / 0) (#44)
    by squeaky on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 12:16:08 PM EST
    This would be hilarious if the situation in general were not so sad:

    In an interview this weekend, Barzani had threatened that any Turkish incursion would "mean war."

    Juan Cole

    Nice job (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by jondee on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 12:40:54 PM EST
    "Stabilizing the region" oh Church of the Holy Wingnut.

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    Karen Hughes Resigns (1.00 / 0) (#46)
    by squeaky on Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 12:39:11 PM EST
    "I feel that I have done what Secretary Rice and President Bush asked of me by transforming public diplomacy and making it a national security priority," Hughes said.

    However, opinion polls around the world continue to show high levels of anti-Americanism, which the Pew Research Center in Washington says is strongest in the Muslim world.

    link

    heckuva job Karen

    Another reason to stall the Iraq supplemental (none / 0) (#1)
    by scribe on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 03:02:35 PM EST
    The Admin wants to use money from it to buy truck-mounted ray guns and deploy them to Iraq.

    I'm not kidding.  They rolled one out the other day to show to the press.

    They'll have them deployable next spring.  Just in time for ... the Republican Convention (among other things)!

    good-for-nothing, lying, greedy, deviant criminal (none / 0) (#2)
    by ralph kramdn on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 10:22:28 PM EST
    I didn't recognize the tone. I wasn't sure where I was for a second. On the twelfth day of September, '01, glued to the boob tube, I refocused my A.D.D. wondering frontal lobes and thought I heard politicians and media personalities and citizens from all over America going on and on with stories about the brave, selfless, heroic acts, both large and small, shown to others by Americans. A special report featuring congress was next. There they were, flaunting it no less; Democrats and Republicans, standing next to one another, quite proudly, backs straight, chests puffed out, making music on the steps of the Capitol, with words like, "America, America, God shed his grace on thee..." Huge corporate monsters honoring all America for 60 sweet seconds with solemn, beautiful, gracious words. We were all commended for our goodness and decency and courage in the face of unspeakable horror. No products pitched. No, "Urgent, call now, while supplies last" commands. I had to look closely to find the Sponsor of such eloquence.
    Still glued too often to that old boob tube, I was reminded, tonight, how much I don't want the same old, same-old. I am going to vote for the first campaigner who says, "You know, my opponent is a true and honorable person and has worked extremely hard for us. We couldn't be further apart politically, but she is a distinguished and capable person and worthy of the office we both seek."

    Me want Free trade (none / 0) (#17)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 02:42:54 PM EST
    and Closed Borders.

    Good effing luck, Jack.

    Huh??? Here's your chance. (1.00 / 1) (#28)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 10:36:02 AM EST
    Your big chance.

    Can you explain how closing the borders has anything to do with "Free Trade.?"

    No? Thought so.

    Oh will, mini rants are also good for the soul.

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    see above (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 01:29:31 PM EST
    rev wingnut.

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    above what? (1.00 / 1) (#43)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 06:08:22 PM EST
    If you can't explain,you can't explain..

    I don't think finance is your strong suit.

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    Obama in St. Louis, photos (none / 0) (#23)
    by Aaron on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 08:39:00 PM EST
    Here's some pictures I took at the Obama rally last night here in St. Louis.

    Barack Obama, St. Louis MO, Union Station 10-26-07

    I joined the campaign over the summer, but this is the first time I've seen Obama in person and it was an awesome experience. I can now say without reservation that he is the real deal. He should be the next president, because the American people deserve the very best this country has to offer and as far as I'm concerned, no one else even comes close.

    I had a press pass, but it was hard to keep myself focused on the photography because Obama is such an enthralling speaker. There were about 3000-4000 people at the rally and they were just going nuts. It really did remind me of a rock concert, everyone was so excited, and they all just loved him. I couldn't sleep last night because I was still so excited.

    I've never join a political campaign before, I only did so because I genuinely believe in Barack Obama. America desperately needs this man in the White House.

    Cheers

    Aaron