Giuliani Defends Bush

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By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sun Feb 11, 2007 at 11:08:11 PM EST

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Tags: Rudy Giuliani (all tags)

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Rudy is now defending Bush, including his leadership on Iraq. He also mocked the non-binding resolution Congress is considering.

In the business world, if two weeks were spent on a nonbinding resolution, it would be considered nonproductive," Giuliani told the lunch crowd, setting off a burst of laughter.

He called the concept "a comment without making a decision." America, he added, is "very fortunate to have President Bush." "Presidents can't do nonbinding resolutions. Presidents have to make decisions and move the country forward, and that's the kind of president that I would like to be, a president who makes decisions."

Can anyone think of a worse President than Rudy Giuliani? His pandering to Republican conservatives is just so transparent.

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That picture (none / 0) (#1)
by Che's Lounge on Sun Feb 11, 2007 at 11:11:50 PM EST

gives me the creeps.

Worst possible president? (none / 0) (#2)
by Repack Rider on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 01:27:29 AM EST

Can anyone think of a worse President than Rudy Giuliani?

Uh, don't look now, but...

Guiliani at the 2004 GOP Convention (none / 0) (#3)
by john horse on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 06:08:48 AM EST

Speaking of making decisions, how about Giuliani's decision to link the attack on 9/11 with the decision to invade Iraq at the 2004 GOP Convention. He didn't mention Osama, barely mentioned Al Queda.

As William Saleton mentions in Slate "The most important characteristic of a great leader is being right. And the most important characteristic of a great speaker--contrary to the view of my colleagues who are raving about Giuliani's speech--is being honest."

: Nothing Noble About Being Decisive If You're Wrong (none / 0) (#9)
by john horse on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 08:32:40 PM EST

According to Guiliani

Presidents have to make decisions and move the country forward, and that's the kind of president that I would like to be, a president who makes decisions.

The President that Guiliani seems to be modeling himself on is Bush. Bush moved us forward or pushed us into an unneeded war in Iraq. Guiliani greatly admires Bush's decision making as he pointed out during the 2004 GOP convention.

There are many qualities that make a great leader, but having strong beliefs, being able to stick with them through popular and unpopular times, is the most important characteristic of a great leader.

By Guiliani's criteria, Bush's refusal to face reality in Iraq means that Bush should be considered a great leader.
Still there can be something admirable about sticking to your guns in the face of adversity. The problem with Guiliani is that he doesn't even live up to this self-professed standard. Take his position on partial birth abortions. As soon as it becomes politically convenient because he needs to appeal to social conservatives he switches his position from being for it to being against it. (see link here) Then he has his aides lie about it.

hmm (none / 0) (#4)
by jarober on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 07:08:27 AM EST

As I recall, last time around Kerry was pandering quite a bit, and there was no concern here. This is yet another case of whose ox is being gored.

: I think it's obvious by now (none / 0) (#5)
by Repack Rider on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 09:54:54 AM EST

that despite his flaws, Kerry could not possibly have been as much as a loser as Bush.

really jarober? (none / 0) (#6)
by cpinva on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 10:14:40 AM EST

care to cite some of that "pandering" for the rest of the class? be specific, and provide sources. your work will be graded, in large part, on how well you're able to support, with actual facts, your throw-away assertion.

and yes, i can think of a worse president. as repack rider alluded to earlier, just take a peek in the oval office.

think about it (none / 0) (#7)
by HeadScratcher on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 10:34:40 AM EST

All this time and effort being spent on something non-binding while things that can be actually be done are being postponed.

Sorry I can't resist (none / 0) (#8)
by Patrick on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 12:46:03 PM EST

Not as a republican, but the other side of the isle has a few I would consider worse.

Worse prez than Rudy? (none / 0) (#10)
by Ernesto Del Mundo on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 09:32:25 PM EST

What about the Republican one that peed himself and fled to some underground bunker on 9/11 while Rudy was forced to play the hero in his absence?

Ernesto, if he knew it was coming (none / 0) (#11)
by bx58 on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 09:46:44 PM EST

why would he pee himself? Do you think these bastards knew it was going to happen?

I think FDR knew Pearl Harbor was coming and he's a freakin hero.

: why would he pee himself? (none / 0) (#12)
by squeaky on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 09:54:16 PM EST

For the theatrical effect.
Or to balance out the My Pet Goat oblivion.

pandering democrats (none / 0) (#13)
by diogenes on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 10:12:28 PM EST

Was Hillary pandering when she supported the Iraq resolution, or is she pandering now when she said that she really didn't mean to support the war but only wanted to give the president "leverage" to use against Saddam?

: Who cares what Hillary thinks? (none / 0) (#14)
by Repack Rider on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 10:36:47 PM EST

If I knew that Bush was lying about the WMD and she didn't, then I am more qualified than she to be president, as are Obama and Webb, who also figured it out. As did millions of ordinary people who do not have Hillary's resources.
If nominated, however, I will not run.
If elected, I will defer to Jim Webb, with Obama as veep.

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