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By Big Tent Democrat, Section Off Topic
Posted on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:34:48 PM EST
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Via Oliver Willis. Take a memo billo, this is hateful and despicable:

A Boise State University running back who scored the winning points in the Fiesta Bowl, then proposed to his cheerleader girlfriend on national television, has hired security for his weekend wedding because of racial threats, a newspaper reported Tuesday. Ian Johnson, who is black, and his fiance, Chrissy Popadics, who is white, are due to be married Saturday in Boise.

Anyone who watched maybe the greatest college football game ever and then was charmed by the Boise State star proposing to his girlfriend right after the game must be disgusted by this. And here is the reality, anyone who has seen the reports on the disgusting comments posted at billo's site must know it is much more likely to be fans of billo than daily kossacks who would do such a thing.

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    You are a liar (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 05:17:00 PM EST
    Antisemitism is deleted and antisemites banned.

    You are truly a bald faced liar.

    Golly! (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sailor on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 07:08:49 PM EST
    Gee BTD if you call a liar a liar here you get deleted;-)

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    jarober (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:46:35 PM EST
    I deleted your lies.

    If you persist, I will ask Jeralyn to ban you.

    Idaho's (none / 0) (#1)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 03:48:25 PM EST
    always seemed to have a bit of an open door policy in regards to "hate groups" (they make sure they're right then they go ahead). That said, I should add that it's also an incredibly beautiful state populated by a majority of perfectly decent white people.

    "Idaho" (none / 0) (#16)
    by Deconstructionist on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 08:54:15 AM EST
      or other people living in Idaho have little say if "hate groups" decide to buy property and set up their little hate plantations. Saying Idaho has an "open door" policy is quite unfair.

      Rural areas which offer seclusion, relatively  cheap land and fewer prying eyes of law enforcement are obviously attractive to these nuts for those reasons. "Idaho" can't say no one may  buy property and live there unless he  meets  "anti-hate" standards.

      Rural people have to endure "refugees" from more densely populated and wealthy areas who bring negatives with them whether they move to Sun Valley or Ruby Ridge. Whether the negatives are merely closing off access to good fishing and driving up property values or having your good name associated with hate groups it isn't really within the rural areas ability to prevent.

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    Is land cheaper in Idaho (none / 0) (#17)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:45:22 PM EST
    than it is in say, Wyoming, North Dakota or Alaska, Decon. Maybe it's unfair of me,but I think there's a little more at work here than the rural, inexpensive  property factors you mentioned. I've spent alot of time in Maine which has just as much seclusion and cheap land and I never heard much about the type of groups that seem to gravitate to Idaho.

    Karl Popper and I are of the same mind when he said we should intolerant of the intolerant.

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    Before jumping to conclusions (none / 0) (#20)
    by Deconstructionist on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 07:36:34 AM EST
    based on, well, I'm not sure what check this out:

    SPLC Hate Group Map

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    I'm sure that (none / 0) (#2)
    by Pancho on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 04:28:07 PM EST
    Whatever was said was inappropriate, but if it is OK to call victims of terrorism "Little Eichmanns" isn't other hate speech also protected?

    Not protected from condemnation (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 04:35:29 PM EST
    Your reference is to Ward Churchill who I have roundly condemned.

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    I'm glad to hear that, (none / 0) (#4)
    by Pancho on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 04:40:30 PM EST
    would you agree that his firing was just?

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    Of course (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 04:46:37 PM EST


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    I certainly would (none / 0) (#10)
    by jr on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 07:20:26 PM EST
    And I'd also like to ask who exactly on the mainstream left has been endorsing that jerk, because, to the best of my recollection, the only people giving him any exposure or credibility have been Fox Opinion hosts and right-wing bloggers.  And I can't remember ever seeing anyone on DailyKos taking him seriously, though I've seen Hannity and O'Reilly do so repeatedly.  They, not the left, made him a national figure.

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    All speech.... (none / 0) (#8)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 05:45:07 PM EST
    is and should be protected...even the speech of knuckleheaded bigots.

    Freedom of speech is worth the unpleasantness.

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    except for plagarism... (none / 0) (#11)
    by jr on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 07:21:37 PM EST
    ...which is why he was discharged.

    Again, I don't know of anyone on DailyKos, especially anyone entitled to speak for the site, who ever showed any sign of taking that schmuck seriously, though Fox Opinion sure did give him a lot of free exposure.

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    Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong (none / 0) (#13)
    by Alien Abductee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:00:15 PM EST
    1. Not anti-semitism - irony

    2. Not anti-military - it's about right-wing warbloggers and their irrational reaction to a WaPo article because they don't understand we live in a democracy and that the military is under civilian control

    3. Not anti-free speech - it's about how the U.S. media is slanting coverage of Venezuela, U.S. gov't complicity in actions of the Venezuelan opposition, false claims about Venezuela to damage its economy, and how many in the U.S., including Democratic politicians, have fallen for U.S. gov't propaganda  

    4. Written not by kos but by a diarist called Heathlander, a relatively new diarist - simply reporting from multiple sources, including the Financial Times, Electronic Intifada, etc. on Hamas and the lack of democratic choices being provided for Palestinians under current U.S. and Israeli policy.

    You're either misinformed or a liar. A simple glance at these posts would have told you the truth.

    BTD (none / 0) (#15)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 08:35:40 AM EST
    anyone who has seen the reports on the disgusting comments posted at billo's site must know it is much more likely to be fans of billo than daily kossacks who would do such a thing.

    Could we see some examples??


    Maybe I have missed it,     but I don't see any place for anyone to actually place a comment, much less a hate filled comment.

    Perhaps they are hiding in the exclusive $4.95 a month premimum member area which only members can access. Verryyyy clever these people.

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    Is it just (none / 0) (#18)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:49:56 PM EST
    me; but anyone else notice how touchy the Righties get when the thread topic pertains to incidents of racism?

    I knew pp would slide in somewhere with another one of his passive aggressive defenses. The man knows his base.

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    jondee (none / 0) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 09:02:13 AM EST
    I would point out, for maybe the 100th time that I am an Independent Social Liberal but it really does no good. Anyone who reads this blog regularly knows that your favorite subject is racism and that you play the race card regularly and routinely.

    So please stalk off and sulk in the corner because you can show no racist comments by me, even though we all know you drool at the thought of such.

    Now, have a nice day.

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    No, you just (none / 0) (#25)
    by jondee on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 03:58:11 PM EST
    link regularly to a site that favorably quotes Klansman and talk about American blacks being "on the reservation" (and, presumably, not smart enough to know it). Whatever you call yourself in order to have some credibility with TL means squat to me, oh great white patriot.

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    DA (none / 0) (#21)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 08:48:56 AM EST
    Sounds wonderful.

    Now, that is 1.

    Got at any more??

    BTW - Why didn't you link to the comment??

    Or is the comment second hand??

    Ooppps - Hit the wrong button. (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 08:54:39 AM EST
    The rhetorical question answer is, it is second hand.

    Which leads me back to my comment. Could we see some real live links.

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    He also never called Kennedy (none / 0) (#26)
    by jondee on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 04:01:46 PM EST
    "the swimmer", mocked the Rosenbergs execution or defended Tom Delay.

    Oh, and that goose you saw him "with"...he was just fluffing the sofa cushions.

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