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Las Vegas Dems Debate: Live Thread Three

Part III. Domestic issues.

Not yet. Russert asks Hillary about national service and military recruiters on college campus. She talks about her bills to give GI's and vets more rights and services. Mentions her service on armed services committee.

Russert asks her if the top ten schools should have ROTC.

Obama agrees and says he too will enforce a statute that requires military recruiters and ROTC to be allowed on campus. He too supports national service and has introduced a bill on it.

Edwards agrees with the other two. He talks about PTSD. It's obvious all three have the same position here. Why not ask questions about areas they disagree on? [Updates Below}

Edwards comes out with a question about nuclear power plants and Hillary zings him with his vote against the Nevada waste bill -- twice. He says it was based on the science at the time. But he got zinged.

Russert now asks Obama about a vote of his in the past. Answers and then turns to nuclear energy and discusses climate change.

Hillary bashes Bush/Cheney 2005 energy bill. It was the wrong policy bill for America and was titlted towards special interests. She talks about her proposed energy bills.

Good, we're on immigration. Edwards urges payment of fine and learning to speak English. it should be a requirement.

Clinton: Sleezy question about something her pollster said about latinos not supporting AA candidates. She says he was making a historical statement and we have to get everyone on the same page. Asks Obama about that and he says not in Illinois, Latinos voted for him.

Russert won't let Hillary talk about immigration. Obama turns to it. Says he supported Kennedy's plan and the Latinos will know they have an advocate with him.

Why didn't Russert let Hillary answer the same question -- really unfair.

Viewer puff question to Obama on how he will turn around high drop out rates of African Americans. He says Latinos have high drop out rate too and trumpets the same policies Hillary and Edwards have supported for years. Waste of five minutes since they all agree.

Now on gun deaths. Hillary is against illegal guns. Political winds are against doing anything to get guns off the streets. "I don't want Federal govt pre-empting states. We need a really good registry." Crack down on illegal gun dealers. Pass assault weapons ban. "I believe in Second Amendment" (yes!).

Obama pretty much sgrees with Hillary. He's for allowing police more access to information on gun buyers to track illegal gun sales (Not sure I like that.)

Edwards even stronger on protecting Second Amendment rights.

Once again, they're all on the same page.

Break. Question to Hillary about playing the fear card before New Hampshire. Hillary says "it's a fact." We face a bad adversary who will take advantage of us. We haven't talked as much about homeland security as we should have in this campaign. Protecting our country is our highest duty. It's a critical question.

Rooting out terrorism will be one of our biggest jobs and "I feel prepared to take that on."

Asks Obama about whether candidates are using politics of fear. He praises Clinton's work in New York. But when she uses specter of a new attack during a campaign, that's a mistake. "I don't want to perpetuate that. " Complains that money that should have been spent in Afghanistan went to Iraq.

Russert asks Hillary if she's saying terrorists might be more likely to attack us if Obama is President. She says of course not. She brings it back to experience and abilty to react -- it's not a question of provoking.

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    I'm pro (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:23:28 PM EST
    nuclear, stop pandering

    HRC wins, Obama places, Edwards show (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:00:13 PM EST


    There were not winners (none / 0) (#102)
    by DA in LA on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:01:20 PM EST
    It was big fat draw.

    Parent
    draw goes to the front runner (none / 0) (#104)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:03:02 PM EST
    but you are otherwise correct. Edwards did not help himself. So he definitely places 3rd

    Parent
    Agree (none / 0) (#105)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:09:21 PM EST
    Chris Matthews is raving about Hillary tonight and how she trumped Obama and Edwards with a power play by attacking Bush.

    I thought Hillary and Obama were good and Obama was quite earnest and well-intentioned but she appeared to be more of a leader.

    Parent

    Ha ha (none / 0) (#1)
    by DA in LA on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:13:44 PM EST
    off topic, but funny

    The Michigan Republican Party accidentally sent out a news release Tuesday night congratulating John McCain for winning the state's GOP primary before catching the error and sending out a second release praising Mitt Romney's victory.

    The Associated Press named Romney the GOP winner as soon as polls closed in Michigan's western Upper Peninsula at 9 p.m. The incorrect GOP release went out just minutes later.



    please put that on the michigan thread and (1.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:20:11 PM EST
    don't try to hijack this one.

    Parent
    Hillary gives a bad answer (none / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:15:05 PM EST
    on Solomon Amendment. Says she'll enforce it.

    why bad? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:16:04 PM EST
    She says she'll "vigorously enforce" (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:16:54 PM EST
    the Solomon amendment, as does Obama.

    Parent
    so... (none / 0) (#9)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:17:30 PM EST
    why is that bad?

    Parent
    It means that colleges (none / 0) (#12)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:18:29 PM EST
    can't take federal money if they enforce their diversity policies.

    Parent
    pardon (none / 0) (#14)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:18:58 PM EST
    I thought you were referring to the link between fed funding and recruitment on a campus.

    Parent
    I am (none / 0) (#16)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:19:30 PM EST
    ok (none / 0) (#17)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:19:35 PM EST
    you were.

    sorry, I agree with this.

    Parent

    Agree with what? (none / 0) (#20)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:20:42 PM EST
    that colleges and universities should be forced to choose between fairness and federal money?

    Parent
    huh? (none / 0) (#25)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:22:01 PM EST
    that aint the choice.

    Parent
    Yes it is (none / 0) (#34)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:26:58 PM EST
    because of DADT.

    Parent
    sorry (none / 0) (#36)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:18 PM EST
    I think that issue is secondary to asking young people to consider serving their country while they are supported by the country's money.

    I appreciate the DADT sensitivity.

    Parent

    It's mandating bigotry (none / 0) (#38)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:48 PM EST
    Unacceptable.

    Parent
    I said (none / 0) (#43)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:32:19 PM EST
    I said that is a secondary issue to me.

    Parent
    Well for me it's a question (none / 0) (#49)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:34:08 PM EST
    of my personal rights, so it's a primary issue for me.

    Parent
    I'm with andgarden (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by BryanNYC on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:35:28 PM EST
    To me, this is a basic human rights issue. When my government forces my university to disregard its anti-discrimination policy, that is unacceptable to me.

    Parent
    I understand your (none / 0) (#64)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:40:05 PM EST
    point of view and i do not wish to be sucked inot a dicsussion of gay rights. My point is that the issue of DADT does not to me supercede the appropritateness of asking people to consider serving their country if they take the country;s money.  If you dont want to allow the request to be mde you cant take the cash. Sorry, that seems fair to me.

    Parent
    You can't separate the two (none / 0) (#71)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:42:02 PM EST
    and that is intentional.

    Parent
    I can and I do (none / 0) (#75)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:44:10 PM EST
    I understand this is an emotional topic for some people so I am going to decline form further discussion on this.  I have a different opinion than you and we are each unlikely to convince the other.  So my best to you and have a great night.

    best -

    Parent

    I'm being "emotional" (none / 0) (#78)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:45:16 PM EST
    when I say that I value my rights?

    Please.

    Parent

    that';s cool (none / 0) (#50)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:34:52 PM EST
    by me.

    Parent
    Federal financial aid... (none / 0) (#80)
    by BryanNYC on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:46:45 PM EST
    I don't think I should be denied access to it because of my sexual orientation. And why should someone who wants to  serve in the military be denied because of their sexual orientation? Actually, bringing this question back to the candidates, I don't think any of them support DADT.

    Parent
    Obama give similarly bad answer (none / 0) (#4)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:16:19 PM EST
    This is tied to DADT.

    Parent
    why bad? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:16:43 PM EST
    oh, sorry (none / 0) (#8)
    by Klio on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:17:05 PM EST
    don't know those details
    ??


    Parent
    so did Obama and Edwards (none / 0) (#19)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:20:41 PM EST
    they all say the same thing about this.

    Parent
    And they all gave the cowardly answer (none / 0) (#21)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:21:04 PM EST
    actually, I liked her entire answer (none / 0) (#5)
    by Klio on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:16:35 PM EST
    so sue me


    You'll be (none / 0) (#11)
    by DA in LA on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:17:46 PM EST
    hearing from my attorney in the morning.

    Parent
    The obligation (none / 0) (#10)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:17:33 PM EST
    to serve exists for everyone, did he steal this from Dodd BTD?

    JE (none / 0) (#13)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:18:47 PM EST
    you can't just talk about them, you have to talk about them and be angry!

    They should have attacked the question (none / 0) (#15)
    by DA in LA on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:19:20 PM EST
    because it was nonsense.  With all that is going on with the military, that is what Russert asks?

    it's russert (none / 0) (#22)
    by Klio on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:21:32 PM EST
    he's a clown

    Parent
    And now they're all going (none / 0) (#23)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:21:38 PM EST
    to toe the line on opposing Yucca mountain.

    This is BAD pandering.

    Why doesn't Russert (none / 0) (#24)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:21:42 PM EST
    ask questions to show their policy differences? They all agree on the questions being asked, we're not learning much.

    I am glad you said it (none / 0) (#26)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:22:58 PM EST
    it is not a useful debate since Onbama and Clinton arent debating.

    Parent
    This is a terrible debate (none / 0) (#27)
    by DA in LA on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:23:06 PM EST
    Because of the questions.

    Parent
    3 (none / 0) (#29)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:24:09 PM EST
    votes he regrets

    nailed him and made him sound defesive (none / 0) (#30)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:25:21 PM EST
    HRC v JRE

    agreee (none / 0) (#31)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:25:48 PM EST
    I think the threshold for (none / 0) (#33)
    by DA in LA on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:26:31 PM EST
    "nailing" has dropped considerably in this debate.

    Parent
    Nuclear power (none / 0) (#32)
    by DA in LA on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:25:51 PM EST
    A great fleecing of the American public

    good clean hit by hillary (none / 0) (#35)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:27:47 PM EST
    on Obama

    missed it, but if say it was a clean, it must be (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:31:36 PM EST
    Getting Bored (none / 0) (#39)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:51 PM EST
    They are los