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Barack Obama's SC Victory Speech

Barack Obama is expected to make his victory speech any minute. Here's a place for your thoughts on it.

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    That Roland guy on CNN just said that (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:54:17 PM EST
    Obama should say he showed he can take a broad coalition and win. Based on SC, I wouldn't be saying that in tonight's speech. I'm not sure how any of them feel too good tonight. I'm disgusted with the media (NOT the candidates) and I hope Obama can make me feel better about it and spin it in a way that shuts the media up.

    I second that motion (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:03:14 PM EST
    I hope Obama can make me feel better about it and spin it in a way that shuts the media up.


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    On pace for 500,000 voters (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by magster on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:03:13 PM EST
    Democrats win again!

    The best thing about the Obama-Clinton ongoing war is it registers new Dems to participate.

    Any reports of mechanical problems today (none / 0) (#17)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:05:47 PM EST
    as happened with GOP primaries in SC last week?  Early on, I read that problems were few today -- but reports often don't start coming in until later.

    Wonder if that held down GOP turnout, as problems at the polls usually do.

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    He is doing what he does best. (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:16:43 PM EST
    If he is the nominee I will vote for him.


    No question. (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:24:46 PM EST
    What the Hell is the other choice for a Democrat?

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    Well yes, but some of our brothers and sisters (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:30:31 PM EST
    need to be reminded to support the nominee whether it was your first choice or not.

    I suspect the reason the conservatives like Obama, he is promising not to go after their policies. I worry about that. I think we need to drive a stake through the GOP's heart.

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    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by chrisvee on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:41:57 PM EST
    We have the mood of the country behind us.  We need to drive a stake through the GOP's heart and not lose the opportunity in a haze of bipartisan wishful thinking.

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    That's a pipe dream (none / 0) (#36)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:34:16 PM EST
    The unity schtick is more about attracting Independent and Republican voters than congressional legislative agendas.  You gotta love someone who goes after a real mandate first.

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    I pray you are right and I rarely pray. (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:57:55 PM EST
    You don't have to pray ... (none / 0) (#49)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 09:02:49 PM EST
    ... listening to Obama's much better than going to church.

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    and why am I being forced to go there (none / 0) (#51)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 09:33:41 PM EST
    Forced??? (none / 0) (#55)
    by robrecht on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:36:09 AM EST
    It's not all pipe dream. He's giving in (none / 0) (#39)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:37:24 PM EST
    some on health care before the battle begins. That is the one issue (along with the unity crap) that keeps me from wanting him as the nominee. Ask for the moon before you compromise and we might get somewhere.

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    I'm not an Obama supporter (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:42:30 PM EST
    but I like a good speech.  If Hillary wins by 50.000000001% and has the greatest health plan since Hippocrates she won't get it passed without a mandate.  Perhaps the only way to drive a stake through the Republicans is to steal their voters.

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    Without a doubt. He's really "on" (none / 0) (#28)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:26:06 PM EST
    tonight. I think some of his spin was overboard but probably needed (the broadest coalition ever?) and it bothers me a little that black people worked their butts off for him but not many are seen at his speech tonight. That would make me mad.

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    Now that he's in the crowd, it IS more (none / 0) (#30)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:30:01 PM EST
    diverse than the people sitting behind him were. Altogether, I thought it was pretty good. He didn't mention his competitors (that I heard) but that's probably a good thing with the way things are going.

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    He gave them props in the beginning as tough (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:31:11 PM EST
    competitors- but not by name.

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    I liked this speech a lot. (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:28:11 PM EST
    He's opposed to the kind of partisanship that won't allow you to say a Republican had an idea, even if you didn't agree with it.

    Wants to make the Democratic Party bigger, not smaller--I missed that line but a commentator said it, not sure if it's a quote or interpretation.

    Scarborough says even conservative Republicans believe.

    I liked this speech a lot.

    The GOP doesn't want to be demonized, so I (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:33:00 PM EST
    understand why they like it. The problem is, I don't see the GOP leopard changing its spots. Post partisanship isn't going to work, unless the GOP wants to go along. Any takers?

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    It isn't about the Elephant (none / 0) (#38)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:36:42 PM EST
    it's about a mandate.  Gotta love someone who gambles big and goes for a mandate rather Rovian divisiveness.

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    Fine IF we elect more and better Democrats (5.00 / 3) (#43)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:43:21 PM EST
    in congress. Otherwise Obama will be compromising with the Elephant. It is all about the Elephant. Do not kid yourself. Or you will be disappointed. They don't care if he has a mandate or not. The GOP congressmen will say THEY have a mandate. Because they were returned to congress.

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    Well ... (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:48:44 PM EST
    My point about a mandate assumes coattails.

    Don't worry, I know I'll be disappointed.  I'm a Democrat--how could I not be disappointed.

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    I hope you are correct about coattails (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:54:28 PM EST
    I did too but I don't want conservative (none / 0) (#34)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:31:47 PM EST
    Republicans to like my candidate. I'm just going to have to get over this but I don't want to compromise with them right now. Especially before the game starts.

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    Nice Speech (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by BDB on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:51:40 PM EST
    There were parts of it that drove me crazy, but I mostly liked it.  Of course, he was helped enormously by the stupidity spewing from CNN pundits.  I think this was a terrific win for Obama and he deserves tremendous credit.  He also deserves to have it spoken about by people who aren't complete morons.  

    Example:

    I don't know if you've heard but according to John King 70% of Democrats voted against Hillary Clinton in Iowa, NH, and now South Carolina.   And that's a huge problem for her.  No, really.  It's not a problem that the same could be said of Obama about Michigan, Iowa, Nevada and New Hampshire.  With the exception of South Carolina and Michigan, the majority of Democratic primary voters have voted against all of the candidates - that's what happens when you have three or more candidates.

    Idiots!

    Dem turnout a record but still below GOP's in SC (3.00 / 2) (#11)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:03:02 PM EST
    Democrats    423,512

    Republicans    442,918

    423,000 and counting (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by magster on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:04:04 PM EST
    with 13% of the precincts to come.

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    not a surprise as SC is really a red state (none / 0) (#22)
    by athyrio on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:17:14 PM EST
    Let got to the real elections (1.00 / 1) (#53)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 09:35:18 PM EST
    Tired of these small states...lets go to the real thing...
    Feb 5

    Congrats to Obama (1.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 12:03:17 AM EST
    on his expected win.  I hope he and his supporters enjoy it.

    But I really have to say that his acceptance speech is just plain dull and, in several places, misleading.  I still like him, but he is running out of material...as I believe someone else said on this blog today.

    Giuliani (none / 0) (#1)
    by mindfulmission on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:40:26 PM EST
    Why the heck are we listening to Giuliani right now on CNN?

    The big question for me is ... (none / 0) (#2)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:41:26 PM EST
    "How can Obama counter the MSM narrative?"  He can't just ignore it.  Buchanen was saying on MSNBC a little bit ago that Obama's share of white votes has gone down from Iowa to New Hamphire to Nevada to even below John Edwards in South Carolina.  (Is that true?)  Scarborough or Olbermann concluded that 'Bill Clinton's race baiting worked.'

    I am pretty sure that was Joe, not KO (none / 0) (#3)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:43:44 PM EST
    Yeah I thought so too but then couldn't be sure (none / 0) (#4)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:45:32 PM EST
    It is true (none / 0) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:56:23 PM EST
    But it is sure to go up now.

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    Thank you. This crossed my query below (none / 0) (#15)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:03:56 PM EST
    Those are interesting stats.  Have to think about them. . . .

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    Wow, are those numbers so? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:56:54 PM EST
    Still hoping someone else can verify, clarify, etc.

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    Iowa was no fluke (none / 0) (#19)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:13:09 PM EST
    The most votes and the most delegates.  That's a good start.  Black & white, Latino, and Asian American ... even Republicans from rural Nevada (quiet BTD).  This populist narrative is sounding the right note to counter the MSM narrative.  The disastrous policies of the current administration.  Difference (from Hillary) is that they want to change the status quo in Washington that is fighting back with all they got.  Hey, he's the anti-Washington junior senator opposed to lobbiests.  It's a good speech.

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    Good speech. (none / 0) (#21)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:16:46 PM EST
    I did not see a black South Carolina or a white South Carolina.  I saw South Carolina.  He knows what he's doing with this speech.

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    has Obama made his speech yet? (none / 0) (#8)
    by cdo on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:57:43 PM EST
    will Hillary be on after him? it will be friggin awesome if she is

    Obama in 4-5 minutes... (none / 0) (#9)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:58:52 PM EST
    ...don't think Hil will be on again...we'll see.

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    She is scheduled to be on (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:00:59 PM EST
    Ah...missed that announcement. (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:03:10 PM EST
    thanks.

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    Channeling BTD (none / 0) (#18)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:12:13 PM EST
    We share a desire to change the disasterous policies of the GOP. Or something similar.

    retract that (none / 0) (#27)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:24:52 PM EST
    not enough explaining why the GOP is the problem.

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    Started well but now (none / 0) (#23)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:19:33 PM EST
    it's the stump speech...the "believe" speech...

    To me, Obama seemed to just be going (none / 0) (#50)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 09:28:57 PM EST
    through the paces.  How about that Dad and son competing for jobs at Walmart part though?  Obvious much?

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    not about black v white...it's about the future (none / 0) (#24)
    by byteb on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:21:13 PM EST
    not peddling false hopes

    he's on fire

    About the past vs. the future... (none / 0) (#25)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:23:47 PM EST
    "When I hear we'll never overcome..." is a new theme...

    "Yes. we can" getting more and more effective...

    Didn't even mention the Clintons ... (none / 0) (#32)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:31:04 PM EST
    ... but refuted them in most every line.  Brilliant.

    Pride not prejudice...the older (none / 0) (#37)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:34:57 PM EST
    gentleman on CNN that does exit polling analysis (I'm forgetting his name) just said that's how women and blacks describe their vote. That's a wonderful way to say it. I'm keeping that statement as my view.

    It Is (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by BDB on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:55:48 PM EST
    A wonderful way to discuss it and I think it's accurate.  I don't think African Americans voted against Hillary Clinton (mostly) in South Carolina.  I don't think women voted against Obama in NH (mostly).  I say mostly both time because, of course, voters are individuals and have different motives, some more noble than others.  

    But I don't think there's some huge unbridgeable racial or gender divide in the Democratic party.  I think voters - unlike the media - are actually voting for candidates, not against them.  Most democrats have positive feelings about all of these candidates.  

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    Bill Bennett heard Reagan in Obama's speech (none / 0) (#42)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:42:30 PM EST
    he said.  Then again, Bill Bennett still is channeling Reagan, so he probably hears Ronnie everywhere . . . except when Bill Clinton speaks. :-)

    obama speech (none / 0) (#52)
    by Dan on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 09:34:18 PM EST
    I'm in the UK and fell asleep with CNN International on and woke up at stupid O'Clock in the morning to Obama's speech Damm he was impressive.

    Quick look at the turnout numbers on CNN gives Obama beating McCain AND Huckabee combined in SC!

    2nd place Hilary beats Huckabee.

    3rd place Edwards beats Romney, Paul and Gulliani combined.