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Um, What Meltdown Coverage?

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 01:41:54 PM EST
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Kevin Drum and Ezra Klein are bemoaning the pack coverage of Hillary's meltdown. Well, um, I expected it, but I must admit it never materialized. Not sure what Kevin and Ezra are talking about frankly.

I thought the coverage was pretty fair. What did I miss?

Well there was this from wonkette, Ana Cox, but not in anything that was in print or mattered.

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    Well she wasn't angry (1.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Jgarza on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 04:30:43 PM EST
    about the state of things, she was angry about the state of her campaign.  That entire rant was about her and nothing else. Newsflash being president isn't about Hillary Clinton, it's about the country.

    JE is angry people are poor, and that hasn't worked, you guys think being angry you are loosing will have some great appeal?  Call me an idiot(and i know you will) but I don't get it.

    ok you're an idiot (none / 0) (#15)
    by leftymom on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 07:01:18 PM EST
    save the vitriol for the republicans.  this kind of in house fighting does nothing but denegrate the candidates as a whole.  

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    hey (none / 0) (#17)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 07:41:00 PM EST
     

    The poster ASKED the guy to call him an idiot so he did.  It was repartee.  

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    JRE actually gets a lot of his support from those (none / 0) (#16)
    by bronte17 on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 07:24:37 PM EST
    making >$100,000.  Stats are from Iowa. It isn't what you are presuming.

    He is angry that average people are manipulated by the search for higher profit margins by corporations.

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    educated and with money (none / 0) (#18)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 07:43:09 PM EST
    are thrilled to hear someone who can clearly string a sentence together amd take such obvious pleasure with the written and spoken word.  I find it an absolute thrill. But I am not backing him.

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    I have duly googled (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 01:57:17 PM EST
    Hillary Clinton's "feelings" comment.  Lots of postings of You Tube video, but the only derogatory comment was "she has feelings?"

    Here's a fun paragraph from The Canadian Republican:

    Mark my words: this man is a very serious threat to the Republican party. As Hillary's free fall continues, it is becoming increasingly obvious (as noted over at Small Dead Animals) that the North American media has anointed the Obamessiah as the Chosen One to lead the American people from the darkness of reason and small government with his glorious and nebulous message of change.
     [Emphasis added.]
    Gibson's Faculty Pay Gaffe (none / 0) (#2)
    by Marc Bousquet on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 02:15:22 PM EST
    After Charlie Gibson's debate gaffe regarding faculty pay, are you curious about what faculty really earn?

    Most teaching is done by part-time faculty and graduate students for less than $20,000 per year.

    Even tenured college professors in the humanities often earn less than bartenders. See the "Faculty on Food Stamps" video at
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qAapTHHY

    You are being so unfair (none / 0) (#7)
    by Jgarza on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 03:03:32 PM EST
    Clearly America doesn't exist outside of san francisco, LA (well only the nice parts), Washington(excluding the certain parts) and New York (excluding certain parts).  So middle income earners  you know thats about 200,000.  I Mr Gibson make like 400,000 and I'm clearly just like a  regular American.  I make regular decisions all the time just last night i had to choose between leaving a 40 dollar tip for my 200.00 meal or 45.00, it was very stressful.  So you know as a regular guy i understand what it is like for you to choose between blood pressure meds and arthritis meds.

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    Missed the Cox link before. (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 02:21:22 PM EST
    Catty, eh?  But she has zero cred after 2004 election day.  

    I didnt know (none / 0) (#4)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 02:43:25 PM EST
    she was still around.

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    i felt like (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jgarza on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 02:48:27 PM EST
    teacher was getting mad at me for not realizing she deserved it, not really appealing.  But i guess you Hillies think she needs to take an authoritarian tone with all us Obama wiper snapers.  

    Obama tells me, you and i can do this.

    Hillary's says you can't do anything, i have done something, I'm going to do that something and you are going to be happy with it, because I'm a woman and thats all the change you really need.

    i watched mtp (none / 0) (#6)
    by Jgarza on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 02:55:04 PM EST
    They described it as angry, i was impressed that they didn't go into meltdown, or shrill like Malkin. But angry is appropriate, they described it as aimed at voters that too is accurate.  She essentially got angry at voters for not realizing she deserved it.

    Her supporters probably felt like she summed up their feeling about non Hillies, but as a non Hillie, angrily wondering why i don't get it ain't gonna work.

    BTD addressing you in particular, you may not be a Hillie, but you buy they argument that her experience, gives her some degree of entitlement.

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    BTD has been (none / 0) (#12)
    by RalphB on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 04:48:18 PM EST
    right, you are an idiot.  She wasn't angry at voters, she was responding to an attack from Edwards on the part of Obama.  

    Oh and about being a 'wiper snapper'?  Freudian slip there?


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    great take on this (none / 0) (#8)
    by Jgarza on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 03:55:29 PM EST
    Matt Stoller has a great take on this. HERE

    Thats the best take I have read.  What you think?

    About what Stoller usually delivers on Clinton (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 04:52:15 PM EST
    In a word, wha?

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    Digby apparently doesn't (none / 0) (#9)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 04:03:56 PM EST
    have a dog in this hunt.

    Comments calling other commenters an idiot (none / 0) (#19)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 08:43:50 PM EST
    will be deleted. Personal attacks on other commenters aren't allowed here.

    As to JGarza, please make substantive points and don't chatter by repeating the same thing over and over. Commenters who do that with the intent of dominating the thread get limited to four comments a day.

    I am disappointed in you (none / 0) (#20)
    by debcoop on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 12:45:58 AM EST
    You're usually more insightful.

    It wasn't a meltdown....it was righteous indignation.  And righteously held and forcefully expressed.

    And check out what Jake Tapper wrote at ABC.

    It is irrelevant as to whether it was written about. As Ezra makes clear, the press has now made this part of their back story on her.  And their pack journalism in this case is based on a misogynistic analysis of her forcefulness. Misogyny is far more socially acceptable than racism.  And it is more often expressed in what is said about women and how men respond to women.  Racism, at least in the left side of the spectrum, is thoroughly repressed,  so Obama, in the primary, has yet to suffer from that kind of dismissal.

    This has been enormously helpful to him.

    I agree and wrote a separate post (none / 0) (#21)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 01:08:04 AM EST
    on this topic here.

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    OT, but I'm curious. (none / 0) (#22)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 01:24:51 AM EST
    Will you be posting on Clinton campaign's mailer in NH pointing out Obama's "present" votes in IL Legislature on abortion issue?

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