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    I guess this is about as close... (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:29:44 AM EST
    as a deer is ever gonna get to winning one.  Link
    Valiant effort my four-legged friend.

    Certainly would add an element... (none / 0) (#11)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:38:24 AM EST
    ...of excitement to the hunting experience if this were to happen more often!  

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    I find myself... (none / 0) (#14)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:42:22 AM EST
    rooting for the bulls in bullfights too...does this mean I'm a traitor to my species?

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    Naw... (none / 0) (#19)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:48:46 AM EST
    ...just means you like to root for the underdog (bull/deer).  I'd except nothing less from a Jets/Mets fan!  :)

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    Hey kdog (none / 0) (#18)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:46:49 AM EST
    It isn't too late to get your room and seat in Tunica for Jan!

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    I'll know next week... (none / 0) (#26)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:00:33 AM EST
    my good man, I haven't forgotten your offer.

    Root for a good showing in the WSOP circuit events in Atlantic city next week for your old friend and Tunica might have another yankee on their hands:)

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    Remember (none / 0) (#31)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:09:10 AM EST
    People who draw to straights and flushes...

    always ride home on air conditioned buses...

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    Unless of course the river is kind... (none / 0) (#54)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:22:31 PM EST
    then the guy with pocket Aces is on the bus heading home early:)

    What a game, what a game...

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    A new marker on the sexist trail (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by lentinel on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:53:41 AM EST
    Francis McDormand has been nominated for the Academy Award four times. She has received one Oscar. She has also received a zillion other awards.

    So - how does the New York Times describe her in a review of her new film, "Burn After Reading"?

    Simple: "Joel Coen's wife".

    Is this better or worse... (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:24:03 AM EST
    ...than your fellow posters on this very blog refering to George Stephanopoulos as "the little Greek boy, Georgie"?

    Or are they equally demeaning?  

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    Worse. (none / 0) (#38)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:29:07 AM EST
    Because it's so typical to be thought of someone's wife or mother rather than a person in one's own right.

    THe Georgie comment was just Stephanopolis getting some sh*t.

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    Plus, Stellaaa gets a pass (none / 0) (#43)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:47:32 AM EST
    due to her macaronic gene pool.

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    She has pasta for ancestors? (none / 0) (#58)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:27:13 PM EST
    So... (none / 0) (#53)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:14:22 PM EST
    ...calling a grown man a "boy" is just good clean fun, but an out of context, disjointed quote is a new milemarker on the highway of sexism?  

    OK.  

    I can only imagine the hue and cry that would erupt if someone were to call HRC a "girl".  

    Will the same standards apply if Bill gets refered to as "husband of SOS Hillary?  What about Todd Palin being refered to as "First Dude"--wouldn't that be demeaning as well?  Or is that different because he's a guy?

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    If the grown man is black that is different. (none / 0) (#57)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:26:22 PM EST
    And you should know that.

    George Stephanopolis is not a member of a persecuted class in America. Neither is Bill Clinton or Todd Palin.

    That comparison is a canard.

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    Duck? (none / 0) (#62)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:36:59 PM EST
    Goose. (none / 0) (#68)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:56:27 PM EST
    Everyone deals with their own... (none / 0) (#64)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:40:35 PM EST
    ...persecution to an extent.

    1. to pursue with harassing or oppressive treatment, esp. because of religion, race, or beliefs; harass persistently.
    2. to annoy or trouble persistently.

    Are you going to argue to George is not persecuted because he is short or Todd because of his beliefs or Bill because he is Bill?  

    In general it is offensive and demeaning to be called a "boy" no matter what race you are.  Obviously it has worse meaning for some than others, but I'm not going to argue about the degree.

    To make the arguement that men can't be demeaned because they are men is the canard.

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    In fairness... (none / 0) (#65)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:47:53 PM EST
    "boy" can be a term of endearment, as can "girl".  Such as "You're my boy MileHi" or "You go girl!".

    As always, it comes down to the context.  Context is what matters, context makes all the difference.

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    Sure... (none / 0) (#66)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:54:23 PM EST
    ...it depends on the relationship too.  OK for my Mom or sister or friends, but decidedly not OK for my boss or strangers on the street or a blog..

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    OK I agree with that (none / 0) (#67)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:56:10 PM EST
    but you asked if it was "worse". I say it is worse simply because it is pervasive in society.

    (I didn't know that GS was short).

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    I'm really not trying to be obtuse... (none / 0) (#72)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:15:48 PM EST
    ...or anything.  

    Just trying to point out that there are people around here (and we all know who they are) that will raise holy heck at any perceived word or phrase they consider sexist, but turn right around and be just as offensive in their thoughts and words.  

    I don't care for double standards or anyone being demeaned for things that are out of their control--like sex or stature and the like.  

    As far as one being "worse" than another--well, that a personal thing and depends on what side of the fence you are on.  It's always worse when viewed from each own eyes.  

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    Fair enough (none / 0) (#98)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:32:59 PM EST
    but I don't agree with this part:

    As far as one being "worse" than another--well, that a personal thing and depends on what side of the fence you are on.  It's always worse when viewed from each own eyes

    I am perfectly able to laugh at jokes at my own expense , but be offended by racist jokes, for instance.

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    Hillary herself said (none / 0) (#95)
    by ruffian on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:22:36 PM EST
    "I'm your girl".  It is not always an insult.

    I'll let Stellaa speak for herself, but I took her use of 'little Greek boy' in kind of an affectionate way. I'm from Chicago originally, and that is not an uncommom way to speak of people we like. Much like Obama's "mutt like me" got such attention a couple of weeks ago - that hasd been an expression in Chicago since I lived in the area 30 years ago.

    George S. has a boyish attitude about him.  I like that.  His persona is one reason I watch the show, and, I would bet, why it is called "This Week With George Stephanopolous" and not "This Week".

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    This Week with the Little Greek Boy (none / 0) (#97)
    by ruffian on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:30:39 PM EST
    does have a ring to it though.

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    Or brother or son or husband.... (none / 0) (#56)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:25:57 PM EST
    is equally typical.  To some people I will always be mdog's little brother and rdog's son...but that's cool, I don't mind it one bit....good company to be associated with:)

    Like I always say...some people wake up in the morning in search of offense.  I'm no better...I wake up in the morning anxious to log onto TL and see the ways in which the state offends me...human nature I guess, though some stretch it farther than others.

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    Well. (none / 0) (#59)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:28:37 PM EST
    The question was asked. But frankly it happens so often it's almost unnoticeable.

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    She was pretty terrific in that movie (none / 0) (#25)
    by andgarden on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:59:27 AM EST
    I love her! (none / 0) (#28)
    by Fabian on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:06:00 AM EST
    The Coen brothers are okay, but it wasn't until I heard that Francis McDormand was in their latest that I actually thought about going to see it.

    "wife"?  Y'know, I can deal with the kids I see for all of one minute a day calling me "Gabe's Mom!" as I get my kid off the bus.  (Hi Gabe's Mom!)  In a professional context, I think  more respect is called for.  

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    Coens' just ok? (5.00 / 2) (#63)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:38:18 PM EST
    I'd put 'em up there with the greatest filmakers of a generation.  Amongst the very best in the business.

    In fact, part of the reason McDormand is such a great actress and shines on the screen is the Coens keep creating such amazing characters for her to play.

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    To each their own. (none / 0) (#83)
    by Fabian on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:51:08 PM EST
    Sure, I get a kick out of Coen movies, but they don't seem to have staying power with me.  McDormand has always been a great actress.

    As for good roles for actresses...that's an entire thesis.  I wish the testosterone flicks would just skip the obligatory "this is a guy movie, but they aren't gay" female love interest whose role is given as less thought than the lead's wardrobe.

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    No argument here... (none / 0) (#88)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:58:40 PM EST
    that's why I like the Coens so much, be it a comedy or drama all the characters have some depth.

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    Man... (none / 0) (#102)
    by desertswine on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:39:46 PM EST
    That's like.. your opinion, Man. - the Dude

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    I look forward to Speaker Pelosi's (none / 0) (#36)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:22:07 AM EST
    reflections of this topic.  She has already warned the world it better respect Hillary Clinton.

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    Most of the world already does. (none / 0) (#40)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:31:41 AM EST
    But I made the mistake of watching Christopher Hitchens on Hardball last night. I got so pissed. I KNOW Chris Matthews put Hitchens on to say the things he himself did not want to...and yes it was all the same anti-Clintons cr@p .

    Looks like MSNBC is completely off the menu for the next 8 years.

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    Just don't watch it (none / 0) (#96)
    by ruffian on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:27:05 PM EST
    I admit I backslid a little since I made that vow, but I haven't watched MSNBC in months and I love it. Why make yourself mad every day for no reason? they have no insight or information that you cannot find elsewhere.

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    There was a vacation from the Hil - hate (none / 0) (#103)
    by coigue on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:44:17 PM EST
    but the haters are back from Tahiti now.

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    Well... (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:04:11 PM EST
    "Burn After Reading" is a Coen Bros. film, so it is relevant information.

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    Ai Yi Yi (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by lentinel on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:23:39 PM EST
    No.
    I don't think so.
    How is it relevant?

    My point is that that is all they said about her.
    They didn't have to describe her. Her name would be enough.
    That's what they did with Malkovich, Pitt, et al.

    But -if they were going to describe her in any way, her Oscar and other nominations are more pertinent than her marriage to a producer.

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    Perhaps next time... (none / 0) (#76)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:29:01 PM EST
    ...you could post a link so everyone can see for themselves what is written and not have to take your word for it.

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    How is her Oscar... (none / 0) (#79)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:36:25 PM EST
    more relevant to "Burn After Reading" than her marriage to one of the producers of "Burn After Reading"?  If you ask me...the marriage is more relevant of the two in regards to "Burn After Reading".

    Now if the review had said she only got the part because she is married to the producer, that would be a slight...McDormand is obviously a very talented actress.  But absent that, I don't get your beef.  It is a statement of fact relevant to the film.  

     

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    Yup. (none / 0) (#86)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:55:42 PM EST
    Exactamundo. (none / 0) (#50)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:09:15 PM EST
    In fact, after reading the article, (none / 0) (#55)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:25:03 PM EST
    much of the rest of the cast mentioned in the article also have (un-mentioned) multiple Oscar noms and several have (un-mentioned) Oscar wins.

    None of the rest of the cast, however, are married to the film's "brand," so, unlike Francis, they got no additional description at all...

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    I tell ya... (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:02:58 PM EST
    that Brad Pitt can't catch a break, the poor guy:)

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    You mean... (none / 0) (#70)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:07:07 PM EST
    ...husband of Angelina Jolie?

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    Now he's even got... (none / 0) (#71)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:15:45 PM EST
    my boy MileHi demeaning him...when it rains it pours Brad, when it rains it pours:)

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    Well (none / 0) (#78)
    by CST on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:34:53 PM EST
    At least he gets to go first in their combined name - Brangelina.  I mean, what's up with that?  Why's it gotta be the guy?  Huh Bennifer???  I mean, what's wrong with Angelrad? Or Jen...

    Maybe they'll at least give us Mad-Rod :)

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    I think... (none / 0) (#81)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:40:25 PM EST
    A-Madge has a better ring myself:)

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    No need (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by lentinel on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:25:32 PM EST
    She, like the male members of the cast, only needed to have her name mentioned. But if there were to be an added description, her achievements in the field of acting are more relevant to a perception of her than her relationship to one of the producers.

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    I don't think so. (none / 0) (#84)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:54:44 PM EST
    If you read the article, it's pretty clear that one of the article's main points is Francis's rather unflattering character.

    A point made much more interesting with the observation that her husband created that character for her and directed her in it...

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    Well (none / 0) (#87)
    by CST on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:58:10 PM EST
    I don't think there is a single "flattering" character in the movie.  So I wouldn't read too much into it.

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    The NYT agrees with you... (none / 0) (#89)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:04:18 PM EST
    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:06:16 AM EST
    Good CDS-diagnosing post from Steve Benen.  The media never gives up their favorite narrative.

    Who the heck are the people for whom yesterday's brief address by Hillary was "the moment when Mrs. Clinton finally conceded the election for real"?  Can you believe someone seriously wrote that?

    I clicked on that this morning (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by lilburro on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:12:49 AM EST
    thinking, "oh, that sounds interesting!  I wonder who that is about?"  How naive of me.

    My favorite line from that article:

    "Mrs. Clinton had greeted the question somewhat grimly, but as Mr. Obama answered, she slowly unfurled a smile. By the end, she managed to look almost as amused by the question as her new boss was."

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    that is amazing (none / 0) (#100)
    by ruffian on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:36:56 PM EST
    Why are the Clintons the only politicians reporters feel free to assign thoughts and emotions? Is it because we learned a little too much about their personal lives? I really don't know how any so-called journalist can write a sentence like that.

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    Here's another example of CDS (none / 0) (#136)
    by cymro on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 09:01:35 PM EST
    The Hillary Test by Robert Schrum ...

    First, will she be a team player or a barely disguised competitor?

    ... followed by Bob's "analysis" of the relationship between Obama and Clinton, including (naturally) the obligatory reference to "no-drama Obama":

    During the making of this Secretary of State, the leaks from her camp weren't encouraging. She was inclined to say "yes" and then "no" and then "yes" again; she had to pick her subordinates; she needed guarantees about her role. High Clintonian drama was thus introduced into the precincts of No Drama Obama.

    I like this comment by Martha (my emphasis added):

    What a patronizing, condescending load of claptrap from the man who only knows how to lose elections. If your former candidate Kerry had gotten the SOS position he allegedly campaigned hard for, is allegedly "crushed" to have lost, you would have been cheering I imagine. Stop piling on with the rest of the useless punditocracy and hyperventilating about THE CLINTONS . The only drama is the media created one that can't let go of a storyline that is overworked and over the top.



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    Best game of the year (none / 0) (#1)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:08:55 AM EST
    I'll take the Tide and the points.

    But as a SEC fan who is currently trying to figure out who Lane Kiffin is I really can't lose.

    I'm with the Tide too... (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:10:27 AM EST
    for no other reason than 'Bama is Joe Namath's alma mater.

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    College football! (none / 0) (#3)
    by lilburro on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:10:30 AM EST
    You are a Gatorbot :P  Where's my PSU coverage?

    Centre Daily Times (none / 0) (#7)
    by rdandrea on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:27:13 AM EST
    Here.

    Joe went in for his hip replacement a week ago Sunday and was out by Tuesday.  He's watching film and preparing for the Rose Bowl.

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    PU? (none / 0) (#12)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:40:48 AM EST
    What's that? Do they play football in Happy Valley?

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    PSU... (none / 0) (#15)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:45:14 AM EST
    ...could beat any of those Big 12 teams with their "we're just going to try and outscore you" offenses and lack of defense.  

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    Sing it MileHi! n/t (none / 0) (#22)
    by lilburro on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:55:00 AM EST
    Fun fact (none / 0) (#23)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:55:52 AM EST
    JoePa and BTD - both Brown grads.

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    Class, please discuss: do college (none / 0) (#61)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:33:59 PM EST
    professors influence the politics of their students?

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    No idea (none / 0) (#125)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 05:17:10 PM EST
    Not me at any rate.

    I think my upbringing did it.

    On race issues especially.

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    Alright now... (none / 0) (#51)
    by easilydistracted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:12:14 PM EST
    All was well until you took a swing at my Big 12. Being the Jayhawk grad that I am, I wouldn't normally jump to the defense of those teams in the Big-12 south. However, we are like family and we must present a united front Therefore, I'll simply remark that our BCS ratings speak for themselves -- as does PSU's (where is it ranked by the way? Oh, that's right, behind three other Big 12 Teams. Hmmm)  

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    Is the Big 12 the only football (none / 0) (#90)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:04:36 PM EST
    conference to have a play off w/i the conference?

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    BTD's beloved SEC also has conference (none / 0) (#92)
    by easilydistracted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:15:11 PM EST
    championship and, also this Saturday. Conference USA also has two divisions but I'm unsure about a championship games.  Lets just put it this way -- the two best conferences are so chocked full of impressive football talent, they each must have a championship to sort it out internally.

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    The Big 12 championship playoff (none / 0) (#99)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:34:40 PM EST
    seems to be a geographical thing, not win/loss overall.  Same re the other conferences? (Can you tell I'm not a football fan?)

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    That is correct (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:56:57 PM EST
    In every case where a I-A conference has a playoff, it involves the champions of two divisions playing one another.  Generally this format is used for scheduling reasons, because when you get to have 12 or more teams in a conference, you simply can't play enough of them in the regular season.  Thus a division format becomes necessary to avoid the risk that your conference champion will simply be the team which got lucky and didn't happen to have any of the top teams on its schedule that year.

    I am pretty sure the SEC didn't have a championship game back when there were only 10 teams, but then Arkansas and someone else joined and they had to split into divisions.

    Parent

    11 must be the max for no (none / 0) (#108)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:10:57 PM EST
    intra-league playoff.

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    Uh, yes I can (none / 0) (#105)
    by easilydistracted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:52:23 PM EST
    I don't know what gave it away

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    And even this intra-league championship (none / 0) (#110)
    by easilydistracted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:20:25 PM EST
    can be problematic. For example, if MU (winner of B12 North) can upset OU (winner of B12 South) Saturday night in Kansas City, then OU's chances for the BCS championship are gone. Yet, Texas, runner-up in the Big12 South, would probably be next in line for BCS championship game. So, OU by virtue of playing and losing one additional game essentially loses a title shot. Yet, Texas by virtue of doing nothing, could get a title shot. Wow.

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    If I read the NYT sports page article (none / 0) (#111)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:25:38 PM EST
    correctly (Monday, I think), deciding which teams play for the Big 12 title involves strength of schedule analysis.  Is this accurate?  Unusual?

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    I am confident (none / 0) (#113)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:30:33 PM EST
    that Texas would gladly switch places and play that extra game.

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    This year there was a three-way tie (none / 0) (#114)
    by easilydistracted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:33:41 PM EST
    for first place in the south. And, it couldn't be resolved according to head to head match up. So, under the Big 12 rules, the tie was resolved according to ranking in the BCS (Bowl Championship Series) National Poll. OU had a higher ranking than Texas and Texas Tech in that poll at conclusion of regular play. Thus, OU plays in title game against MU.

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    Ah. Got it. Thanks. (none / 0) (#116)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:53:50 PM EST
    Right (none / 0) (#117)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:57:57 PM EST
    but it's sort of a circular situation.  Any of those 3 teams would be happy to play in the Big 12 Championship, and have a shot at the national championship, even though they might lose that game.  Oklahoma has a much better shot at the title than Texas even though their lead in the rankings is microscopic (not to mention the ballyhooed head-to-head result).

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    In Texas, is it o.k. under NCAA (none / 0) (#118)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 04:04:30 PM EST
    rules for a sophomore football player to drive a Cadillac Escalade?  (See Mon. NYT.)  Kind of suspicious, I'd say.

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    Standard stuff (none / 0) (#119)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 04:14:15 PM EST
    That's big-time college football for you, really.  But hey, not all of these players come from poverty, you know.  I'm sure a few of the cars are honestly come by.

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    I'm thinking of poor persecuted (none / 0) (#122)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 04:51:02 PM EST
    Reggie Bush and his fam.

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    Sh*t... (none / 0) (#123)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 05:02:23 PM EST
    for all the money the players make for these schools, they should all get a Caddy upon signing their letter of intent.

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    Now you can smell... (none / 0) (#129)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 06:22:11 PM EST
    ...just like Happy Valley!

    (AP) BERWICK, Pa. - Fans of Penn State can smell like the school for just $60. A fragrance developer says it has made a perfume and a cologne inspired by Pennsylvania State University's blue and white colors and its campus vegetation.

    Masik Collegiate Fragrances says the perfume for the school in State College, Pa., smells of vanilla, lilac, rose and white patchouli. The cologne smells of blue cypress and cracked pepper.

    http://tinyurl.com/57ujjn

    I think they missed the scent of cannibis wafting through the air...

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    Segue: scents (none / 0) (#130)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 06:43:38 PM EST
    [Harry Reid://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/12/harry_reids_brave_battle_again.cfm]

    And it is sd. Joe Biden puts his foot in his mouth.

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    Oops. Forgot to preview. (none / 0) (#131)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 06:44:39 PM EST
    Hilarious (none / 0) (#132)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 06:51:46 PM EST
    and so ill-advised!

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    Apparently (none / 0) (#4)
    by andgarden on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:12:19 AM EST
    Mel Martinez isn't running for reelection. Ugh, this is going to be a little harder to pick up now.

    Since Alex Sink apparently isn't running, I like Ron Klein for this one.

    I also like (none / 0) (#45)
    by Amiss on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:01:34 PM EST
    Dan Gelber. He is the one that fought most for Florida's votes to count in the primaries.

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    Can he raise the money? (none / 0) (#47)
    by andgarden on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:05:15 PM EST
    Jumping from the state house to the Senate is pretty much unheard of.

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    Dunno (none / 0) (#60)
    by Amiss on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:29:30 PM EST
    Alan Boyd's name is also being floated.

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    As well as (none / 0) (#80)
    by Amiss on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:37:57 PM EST
    Paul Wexler and ........get this JEB (shudder)my pick of all of the names floated is Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

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    Trying to make heads or tails... (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:14:06 AM EST
    of why we all of a sudden need a 20k strong military force deployed within our borders.  Link

    Unprecedented and kinda scary.

    One could argue... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:42:06 AM EST
    ...that it is better than having Blackwater patroling our street (like in N.O.).  At least there might be some oversite?

    On the other hand, if we didn't have our National Guard troops "spreading democracy" in the Middle East, there wouldn't be a need for this.

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    I don't see the need now.... (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:46:42 AM EST
    I mean if a nuke goes off the game is over anyway...chaos will reign whether there are 20k troops or 200k.

    Not that I necessarily buy the official reasoning for this unprecedented proposal.

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    Well, if you're not buying the... (none / 0) (#27)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:01:19 AM EST
    ..."offical" reason, maybe the troops are needed to seize all of those guns out there and put the righties into Work Camps.  

    /how's that for a tightly wrapped tin-foil hat!

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    Of course only Nixon (none / 0) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:20:33 AM EST
    could have gone to China.

    Could only Obama do this?

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    yadda yadda (2.00 / 0) (#126)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 05:24:26 PM EST
    yadda yadda (2.00 / 0) (#133)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:09:38 PM EST
    yadda yadda (2.00 / 0) (#137)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:26:41 PM EST
    One of the profound failures (none / 0) (#20)
    by Salo on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:50:21 AM EST
    of NOLA and Katrina was the simple lack of trained soldiers directly on hand.  A Brigade of logistics   specialists  or even infantry would have halved the suffering if they had been ordered to the site fo the catastophe. It's a different country but the British Army generally shows up immediately when areas get flooded or burned or what have you.  When military helicopters started evacuating NOLA and plowing in with fod stuffs I tended to think that was value for money on the tax dollar.

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    National Guard?? (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:06:54 AM EST
    These are active duty troops, not under the control of the state's governor as the NG is.

    Further, military forces remain constrained from a domestic law enforcement role by the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. Though the Pentagon has committed more than 8,000 active-duty Army and Marine troops and about 10,000 sailors, it has made it clear that these forces will not perform police functions.

    Link to WP

    In N.O. the gov resisted turning over control to the Feds. Big slow down and much confusion.

    Politically, too, the idea of an enhanced federal role may be a hard sell to some local and state officials if it means diminishing their authority. Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco resisted a Bush administration effort last week to exert federal control over all local police and state National Guard units.

    Some experts also contend that an attempt to federalize a relief effort could backfire, resulting in less flexibility rather than more.

    "You don't want to federalize the Guard," Park warned. "When Guard forces are controlled by the governor, they can engage in law enforcement duties. When federalized, they are subject to Posse Comitatus."

    And then we have some facts...

    Jason van Steenwyk is a Florida Army National Guardsman who has been mobilized six times for hurricane relief. He notes that:

    "The federal government pretty much met its standard time lines, but the volume of support provided during the 72-96 hour was unprecedented. The federal response here was faster than Hugo, faster than Andrew, faster than Iniki, faster than Francine and Jeanne."

    For instance, it took five days for National Guard troops to arrive in strength on the scene in Homestead, Fla. after Hurricane Andrew hit in 1992. But after Katrina, there was a significant National Guard presence in the afflicted region in three.

    Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge have no idea what is involved in moving hundreds of tons of relief supplies into an area the size of England in which power lines are down, telecommunications are out, no gasoline is available, bridges are damaged, roads and airports are covered with debris, and apparently have little interest in finding out.

    So they libel as a "national disgrace" the most monumental and successful disaster relief operation in world history.

    .....

    Journalists complain that it took a whole week to do this. A former Air Force logistics officer had some words of advice for us in the Fourth Estate on his blog, Moltenthought:

    "We do not yet have teleporter or replicator technology like you saw on 'Star Trek' in college between hookah hits and waiting to pick up your worthless communications degree while the grown-ups actually engaged in the recovery effort were studying engineering.

    "The United States military can wipe out the Taliban and the Iraqi Republican Guard far more swiftly than they can bring 3 million Swanson dinners to an underwater city through an area the size of Great Britain which has no power, no working ports or airports, and a devastated and impassable road network.

    Link

    Why didn't Bush issue the orders? Well, here's the thing: he did.

    Katrina hit the coast on August 29th. On August 30th, the "Pentagon announced it will send five ships, though four are several days away". The other was the USS Bataan, which was following behind the storm. On the morning of August 31, the USS Bataan was flying missions into Louisiana, as "four MH-53 Sea Stallion and two HH-60 Seahawk helicopters from USS Bataan were flying medical-evacuation and search-and-rescue missions in Louisiana, and Bataan's hospital was preparing for possible use for medical support".

    Link

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    The larger question (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by OldCity on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:06:24 PM EST
    is, why don't we have adequate resources anymore to deal with domestic disasters.  Early in professional life, I worked  in Florida post Hurrican Andrew.  the FEMA response was a joke, and it took complaint from the govvernor to get the 82nd airborne, if I remember correctly, to assist.

    The US has consistently reduced the size of government despite overwhelmong evidence that we actually do need government employees.  We need disaster specialists.  We need to stop, Stop, STOP utilizing contractors for critical tasks.  We need to adequately fund and manage (manage being the operative word) the Border Patrol, the NTSB, etc...

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    send in the paras (none / 0) (#52)
    by Salo on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:12:50 PM EST
    Not so good on bogside but quite handy in a storm and flood really.

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    It will be fun (none / 0) (#9)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:30:45 AM EST
    to see how the Left reacts to this.

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    And the freedom-loving right... (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:32:09 AM EST
    for that matter...the Cato Institute is none to pleased, as well as the ACLU obviously.

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    They will be less violent than the cops. (none / 0) (#16)
    by Salo on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:45:37 AM EST
     That's the bright side. Until something really ugly happens of course. I tend to think the US is probably screwed in the long term.  At some point some Pakistani or Saudi will probably smuggle in something big.

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    I am enthused (none / 0) (#24)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:58:03 AM EST
    that this may lead to a renewed interest in Third Amendment law, my constitutional specialty.

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    Made me look. (none / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:19:26 AM EST
    To patrol Walmarts on Black Friday? (none / 0) (#101)
    by ruffian on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:38:12 PM EST
    Rule of thumb (none / 0) (#6)
    by Steve M on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 10:24:35 AM EST
    No great football team should have its fortunes rest upon the health of someone named "Percy."  I defy you to supply a counterexample.

    But is he faking it? (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:20:04 AM EST
    It is sad that a MSU... (none / 0) (#112)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:29:50 PM EST
    ...fan has forgotten about Percy Snow already.  You should be required to turn in your green and white pom-poms!

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    For all those seeking some (none / 0) (#39)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:30:26 AM EST
    culture whilst the Gators and the Crimson Tide battle to the death, Met radio broadcast will be Tristan und Isolde, conducted by Daniel Barenboim, making his belated Met debut.  Long song though.  11:00 a.m. to 4:15 p.m. ET.  

    Tomorrow! (none / 0) (#73)
    by liminal on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:23:13 PM EST
    No need to wait 'til Saturday for opera in the sticks.  

    The encore of the Met's HD broadcast of La Damnation de Faust is tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. local time, at participating movie theaters around the country.  I'm going!

    This will be the first time I've seen the Met version.  I saw the SF opera's movie theater broadcast of Sanson et Dalila last year.  I had trouble getting into it during the first act, but found myself really enjoying it, thereafter.  I'm not sure how well this production will translate via the theater broadcast - but I'm looking forward to it!  

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    I'm thinking of going to the encore, (none / 0) (#77)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:31:12 PM EST
    although a knowledgeable DK diarist/commenter sd. the full effect ot the projections didn't come across in the HD version.  Couldn't catch the entire, huge panel of screens.  

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    The Gators (none / 0) (#82)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:46:33 PM EST
    don't kick off until 4. You can blow off the last 15 minutes of the Met, we already know the ending.

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    Heck, it takes Susan Graham that (none / 0) (#91)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:07:23 PM EST
    long to climb the long ladder to Paradise; and she doesn't sing a note.

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    Thank Goodness (none / 0) (#120)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 04:46:59 PM EST
    ;-)

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    MSNBC is FOX NEWS (none / 0) (#41)
    by Faust on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:31:49 AM EST
    Now in agreement with this thesis: John Stewart.

    link

    I recommend the comments section. Lots of comedy in there.

    PERFECT (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by andgarden on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:43:16 AM EST
    Biased John Stewart (none / 0) (#104)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:46:18 PM EST
    is not exactly the "Steward" of fair and balanced reporting his-own-self.  

    Hypocrisy, ain't it wonderfluff?

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    First off... (5.00 / 1) (#107)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:08:43 PM EST
    ...it's Jon Stewart.  Secondly, he would be the last one to claim to be a "reporter" or even "fair and balanced".

    He's a comedian, not a reporter or journalist or pundit.  I fail to see the hypocrisy.

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    Given that he thinks he sits on the moral (none / 0) (#145)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 06:34:43 PM EST
    high ground where he can call the other guys out, then he is asking to be accused of hypocrisy himself.  MSNBC has never called itself fair and balanced either.

    And I was using the other person's spelling.  I could care less how "John" is spelled.  Focus on trivia much?

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    Well he's got flaws of his own (none / 0) (#109)
    by Faust on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:11:54 PM EST
    and he's a terrible interviewer. However, as a satarist he can be pretty good, and the show doesn't pretend to be much more than a comedy show, except during the terrible interview segments.

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    FBook Petition: Obama: Fix U.S. Drug Policy. (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ben Masel on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:57:31 AM EST
    Petition Sponsor:
    STUDENTS FOR SENSIBLE DRUG POLICY FOUNDATION

    To: President-elect Obama
       We petition that...

    When you called the War on Drugs an "utter failure" in 2004, you were right. A 2008 Zogby poll found that 3 out of 4 of Americans agree with you.

    When appointing the head of your Office of National Drug Control Policy, please select someone with health, science, or education credentials rather than a military general, law enforcement official, or "tough on drugs" politician. The next "Drug Czar" should base policy on proven methodology rather than counterproductive ideology. At a minimum, he or she should support these measures:

    *Ending the racially unjust disparity in sentencing for crack and powder cocaine.

    *Ending the practice of prosecuting patients in states with medical marijuana laws.

    *Eliminating the federal law that denies financial aid to students with drug convictions.

    We all know that the War on Drugs is failing because handcuffs don't cure addictions -- doctors do. You have the opportunity to bring us the change we need. Will you?
       Sincerely,



    Sign Here



    Will he? (none / 0) (#49)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 12:08:35 PM EST
    Sure...right after pigs fly, hell freezes, and citizens start respecting tyrannical drug laws that spit in the face of 5000 years of human history.

    It ain't gonna happen Ben...every American citizen could sign the damn thing...still ain't gonna happen  Millions of us will just have to continue to be outlaws I guess, it's how Uncle Sam likes it.

    The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

    - Ayn Rand



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    I don't expect a dramatic reversal. (none / 0) (#128)
    by Ben Masel on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 05:30:13 PM EST
    Still an open question just how much improvement we'll see around the edges.

     

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    I gotta know. (none / 0) (#143)
    by OldCity on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 08:56:55 AM EST
    Are you an Objectivist?  Because much of the esteemed Ms Rand's philosophy contradicts opinions contained in your posts.

    Of course, a lot of her philosphy competes unfavorably against reality, as well.

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    I'm not... (none / 0) (#144)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 09:33:58 AM EST
    I just enjoy much of Rand's work...but I never joined the cult:)

    I don't think I have a set philosophy, besides being an evangelical freedom extremist.  I'll take thought-provoking truth where I can find it, be it from the humanist/socialist Vonnegut, the Objectivist/Libertarian Rand, or the drunken horseplayer Bukowski....especially Bukowski:)

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    171 uncounted ballots (none / 0) (#85)
    by eric on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:55:38 PM EST
    have been found in the Minnesota Franken/Coleman recount.  It seems that a machine that scans the ballots broke on election night and 171 ballots somehow were put in the box without being counted.  LINK

    Odds are, this favors Franken because he won the precinct with the votes that were counted.  Looks like the story says possibly a 37 vote pick-up for Franken.

    Oh God (none / 0) (#94)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:22:34 PM EST
    Don't toy with me.  Is this going to happen?

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    No (none / 0) (#121)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 04:48:41 PM EST
    Oh, color me chapped from HELL (none / 0) (#93)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 02:21:41 PM EST
    I'm listening to Gates and he claims that we have our boot on the neck of Al Qaeda in Iraq right now and has brought up India  Mofo Crazy Dubya Hawk, Al Qaeda in Iraq?  Can we get back to what Al Qaeda in Iraq really means.....the local McDonalds ummmm I mean Al Qaeda franchise that belongs to those who are jihading against the invading infidels.  Not the same and never was the same, and if Gates has clear links to Al Qaeda hanging out in the Mts between Afghanistan and Pakistan with Al Qaeda in Iraq so we can all see the connection here he must have to Share TODAY!  NOW!  Obama had better rein this boy in!  Somehow, I'm wondering how long Gates is going to be where he is!  Maybe he's trying to get fired?

    Apparently (none / 0) (#115)
    by andgarden on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 03:43:41 PM EST
    Lawmakers going after BCS on antitrust grounds (none / 0) (#138)
    by Manuel on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 12:35:27 AM EST
    What are the odds this will go anywhere?

    In a rational world (2.00 / 0) (#140)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 06:55:15 AM EST
    tie breakers are settled first by head to head competition...

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    NYT (none / 0) (#141)
    by lilburro on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 07:55:00 AM EST
    on the CIA here:  

    A. B. Krongard, the C.I.A.'s third-ranking official under Mr. Tenet when the detention and interrogation program was created, called Mr. Brennan a "casualty of war" and said he believed C.I.A. tactics were being second-guessed for political purposes. The demise of Mr. Brennan's candidacy, Mr. Krongard said, "is a huge loss to the country."

    Ok "Buzzy."  Yeah right.  Seems like our Senators are going to refuse to be leading lights on this one.  Obama's military staff is more serious about cracking down on "enhanced" interrogations though.

    The upper level CIA people are happy to grow wealthy as private contractors.  From where I sit there are a LOT of changes that can be made to the CIA.  And Blackwater Buzzy is of course not going to promote them.