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Hillary and McCain's Passport Files Also Breached

Condi Rice struggles for answers:

At least four State Department workers pried into the supposedly secure passport files of presidential contenders Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, abashed officials admitted Friday in a revelation that had Condoleezza Rice promising a full investigation and telephoning the candidates to personally apologize. ....The State Department's inspector general was probing, with the Justice Department monitoring the effort, but Obama said that was not enough. He urged congressional involvement "so it's not simply an internal matter."

The company that hired the snoopers is believed to be Stanley, Inc. As to the breach of Hillary's records:

In Clinton's case, someone accessed her file last summer as part of a training session involving another State Department worker. McCormack said the violation was immediately recognized and the person was admonished. That person was not involved in the later incidents, meaning four people were involved in all.

As to what's in a passport file, it's identifying information and a list of the countries one has traveled to, not state secrets: [More...]

It is not clear whether the employees saw anything other than the basic personal data such as name, citizenship, age, Social Security number and place of birth, which is required when a person fills out a passport application. The file also includes date and place of birth, address at time of application and the countries the person has traveled to.
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    not sure if there is just bad journalism, but (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by wasabi on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:09:28 PM EST
    MSNBC website said that Condi had the people involved dismissed just hours prior to notifying Clinton that her file was breached while CNN reported that the dismissals were done by low level staffers immediately after the incidents.  

    i read obama wants congress (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by hellothere on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:18:07 PM EST
    to investigate.huh? hey barrack, how about some support for our privacy?

    May I suggest letters to both (all 3?) Campaigns (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:10:17 PM EST
    urging that they use their bully pulpits to address the underlying issue of the Database State, rather than trying to play this for tactical gain?

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    I agree completely (none / 0) (#45)
    by Democratic Cat on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:25:01 PM EST
    Will pen them tonight.

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    Sure...Congress should tell Obama (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by Anne on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:13:32 PM EST
    that when he has a hearing on Afghanistan, NATO and Europe, they will think about an investigation...

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    No - this story is not about Obama. (none / 0) (#64)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:40:10 PM EST
    It is about all of us.  He isn't the only one with a file, but because he is a VIP he finds out about people who snoop into his file.  The rest of us don't get that special treatment.  I want Congress to investigate this incident regardless of who was the target.

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    first i want congress to take care of (none / 0) (#65)
    by hellothere on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:07:39 PM EST
    americans. i am sick and tired of congress critters of taking care of themselves and letting us just sit on the side continuing to wait. no thanks!

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    Thanks, I have to apply to renew my passport (none / 0) (#67)
    by Cream City on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:03:45 AM EST
    soon -- and I'll tell you that these stories have me concerned.  I know people who've had to deal with identity theft, and it's a never-ending horror story.

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    I'm not as up in arms about it (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Warren Terrer on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:20:12 PM EST
    as some people, but it does make me wonder: how easy is it for low level employees and contractors to get their hands on the information that Bush has been illegally collecting on everyone?

    The data is very secure (5.00 / 5) (#20)
    by badger on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:46:51 PM EST
    but you made a small math error on line 31 of your Form 1040 in 2004.

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    Ha! (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Warren Terrer on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:13:04 PM EST
    You'll fix that for me, right? Thanks.

    Parent
    Yes, we can! (none / 0) (#43)
    by badger on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:22:56 PM EST
    Obama and the MSM (5.00 / 7) (#12)
    by americanincanada on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:38:29 PM EST
    made fools out of themselves last night, especially KO. They railing against this for hours and were still doing so this morning. And then it comes out that both Clinton and McCain's files have been accessed as well.

    Not only does it look like Clinton has more of a right to be angry since hers happens a year ago and she is just being told now...but it made the Obama campaign and his fawing media look insane.

    Watched KO very briefly--he suggested it was (none / 0) (#58)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:56:12 PM EST
    suspicious that today both Clinton and McCain were also id'd as having their files "breached": He said is sucked the oxygen out of the Obama outrage over the passport problem.

    Apparently a Bush Maladministration official revealed the Obama situation to a reporter?

    That is surely more interesting--if true--than even the low level contractors abusing their access to peak at celec pols' passport files.

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    Peak should be "peek" ...eeek. (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:57:26 PM EST
    But it was a peak moment....

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    And remember, the timing of the leak (none / 0) (#68)
    by Cream City on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:11:43 AM EST
    just before the KO show, only to an Obama camper -- and they clearly have a direct line to the KO show -- was a page out of an old playbook.  A playbook that KO ought to know, if he really knew anything about Ed Murrow and Joe McCarthy.

    Joe McCarthy, who studied journalism in college (while tending bar, both in my town), learned well to break stories at the last minute, so that the press would have no time to go with anything but what Joe gave them.

    KO and MSNBC fell for it big-time last night.

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    I wonder if Howard Fineman (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by Dancing Bear on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:39:09 PM EST
    will retract all the crappy things he said about it possibly being linked to the Clintons. WTF? Can they at least wait for facts until they start with the "lynching"?

    Oh, all three had their files peeked into? So the three hours MSNBC spent examining this horrible breach of security should go on for what, maybe six more hours to include McCain and Hillary?

    Gloria Borger just said it was so overblown yet she sat and speculated her little heart out last night trying to figure out who had the most to gain.  Who might you guess the implication was about?

    Kinda makes you want to go abroad.  For good.

    this is what the kitchen sink tactic (none / 0) (#30)
    by cy street on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:00:58 PM EST
    gets you.  you can throw them, but it is difficult to keep the stench from getting all over you.

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    Unclear about employee who accessed Clinton's (none / 0) (#2)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:15:50 PM EST
    file during training class. Class was told to use family member's file, but one person accessed Hillary's--was warned--from reports I heard.

    The breaches of Obama's file resulted thus far, AFAIK, in two firings and one suspension of contractors.

    All info will benefit from firm, fack-based reporting.

    Seems more like groupies or curiosity so far. (none / 0) (#3)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:16:14 PM EST
    Well it does if you base your (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:28:13 PM EST
    judgment entirely on the State Department's story, but I'd say that given their embarassing position and the fact that they are controlled by the Bush Administration, it would be prudent to wait until we get some information gathered from an independent source.  So far everything - except the Obama and Clinton campaigns' statements - the story has originated entirely from State.  We don't even have the names of these so-called "groupies" because State has decided not to release them.

    Parent
    good point, just maybe look at the bushies. (none / 0) (#48)
    by hellothere on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:47:50 PM EST
    hey msnbc, stfu!

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    Obviously the most important point, (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:24:45 PM EST
    however, is this:

    "[Maura] Harty was a Consular Affairs Chief until the end of last month when she retired from foreign service work. Before her stint as the Assistant Secretary of State of Consular Affairs, Harty was an Ambassador to Paraguay under President Bill Clinton," MSNBC reported.

    Ms. Harty was apparently a career foreign service officer.   She also worked under the Reagan admin.


    From wiki - Harty's bio: (none / 0) (#10)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:33:43 PM EST
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Harty

    She began her career with the Department of State in 1981 as a vice-consul in Mexico City, Mexico, and was one of two Foreign Service Officers sent to accompany U.S. forces during the invasion of Grenada (to help evacuate American citizen medical students from the island).

    Harty went on to serve several tours in Washington, DC, including tours in the State Department's Operations Center and as special assistant to Secretary of State George Shultz...

    Being sent to Paraguay could easily be considered a demotion given her previous high-profle posts.  Implying that she got some sort of "plum post" from the Clintons is suspect in my opinion.  Paris, London, even Sao Paulo are plum posts - Paraguay - not so much.

    Also Grenada as I remember it was an operation that was incredibly secretive and those chosen for participation within the Administration were for the most part true-believers.

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    HuffPo (none / 0) (#17)
    by tek on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:44:05 PM EST
    is making a federal case out of the fact that this woman served under Clinton!

    Doesn't this new information sort of make the Obama camp look silly for suggesting earlier that the Clinton camp was responsible breaking into his files?

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    Indeed. But Huff Post is still (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:45:48 PM EST
    featuring this info.

    Parent
    HaHa:

    Today CNN reported that "John O. Brennan, president and CEO of the Analysis Corp., advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said." He donated $2300 to Obama's campaign.

    The HuffPo and TPM, etc. can't point their fingers to Hillary no more. How embarrassing!  

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/22/passport.files/index.htmlem

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    Passport info (none / 0) (#7)
    by ricosuave on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:25:03 PM EST
    This is more a matter of government privacy than anything about the political campaign.  In the case of Bill Clinton many years ago (if my memory serves, which is unlikely at best) the issue was that they were snooping for anything related to his time in England as a Rhodes scholar so they could put it together with protests and anti-war stuff.

    But in most cases this kind of privacy is a good thing.  The best example that comes to mind for me is a couple of Iranians I met in Italy about 15 years ago.  One of them was Jewish and he brought his mother from Iran to Italy so she could travel to Israel.  The Israeli government made sure to put all of the stamps on a separate sheet so she wouldn't have trouble when she got back to Iran.  If the Italians released her passport records, she could be in lots of trouble in Iran.

    If you want a less dramatic use case: Think of how much Oil Company A might pay to find out when the representative of Oil Company B visited Nigeria, or that he was visiting at all.

    I don't think this says much about this race other than the fact that Obama saw fit to push the story as how "big-time" he is (or for SOMETHING else besides Wright to be in the news), and we later learn that the same thing happened to Hillary but she didn't choose to make it an issue at all.  If anything, that's just another small chalk mark for Hillary in the "who's a grown-up" tally for this campaign, but you'd have to be crazy to think someone was going to vote for one or the other based on this news story.

    And it says that we can't trust the "privatize the govenrment" crowd.  I will leave it to other commenters to mention which candidates support what kind of privatization.

    The lesson is... (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by DudeE on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:34:45 PM EST
    ...that you just cannot lay a finger on Obama or they'll crank out the press releases and e-mails and the pundits will fall in line...

    ...victim card?  played to the hilt.

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    and that is exactly how his administration (none / 0) (#49)
    by hellothere on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:49:02 PM EST
    would be run. always the victim!

    Parent
    Yes, victims...again (none / 0) (#62)
    by MichaelGale on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:44:21 PM EST
    The first Passportgate (none / 0) (#52)
    by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:08:36 PM EST
    against Bill Clinton was pretty serious stuff. ConsortiumNews has a good piece on it. George H. W. Bush acted criminally in trying to pin something on Clinton back in 1992. DiGenova was pretty much covering up things back then too.

    If it was only a "gotcha" and there really is nothing there, I think it's probably a good idea to get this Bush Administration to at least be accountable for what happened. Like father like son, only worse in this case.

    And better hearings on what files and personal information have been breached under Bush, considering our problems with the NSA, than to figure out whether some baseball player took steroids.

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    As usual... (none / 0) (#9)
    by DudeE on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:33:38 PM EST
    ...the Obama camp asks for heads to roll over an 'outrageous' scandal.  Meanwhile Clinton's record breached nearly a year ago and nobody raised the flag.

    And more importantly, she didn't squeal to (none / 0) (#14)
    by Angel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:39:29 PM EST
    the press.

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    Clue me in here- (none / 0) (#55)
    by echinopsia on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:37:04 PM EST
    I read that she wasn't even notified of the breach until yesterday. True or false?

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    I believe... (none / 0) (#77)
    by DudeE on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 11:05:38 AM EST
    ...that is true.  The report was that the person accessing Clinton's file was "immediately admonished" and apparently everyone went on their merry way.

    Even with respect to the Obama file, the State Department claims, "Our initial view is this was imprudent curiosity on the part of these three individuals"

    But you wouldn't know it from the breathless media.  I just find it bizarre that Mr. Transparency all of a sudden goes into hysterics over something like this.  It's certainly worthy of a sanction against the individuals, but a Congressional investigation just makes him look like a Republican trying to blow this into some kind of awful political scandal.

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    "Breaches' are inevitable (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:41:04 PM EST
    whenever databases are so large they require hordes of employees (or contractors0 to maintain. Even logging routines are circumvented by those with higher level access codes. Let's look past the short-term politics, and begin dismantling the dossier culture.

    And here I thought you would be asking if Gravel's (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:42:26 PM EST
    file was breeched also.

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    Mike's dossier doesn't show up (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:48:38 PM EST
    since the Ministry of Truth declared him a non-person.

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    No one could have anticipated (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by litigatormom on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:04:31 PM EST
    that Condi's State Department would try to hide the truth about a screw-up.

    Parent
    Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:44:44 PM EST
    May 20-23, New Haven, CT
    Website
    Facebook Group
    blog

    $2.2 mil, 3 years and a hand slap (none / 0) (#21)
    by BarnBabe on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:47:02 PM EST
    As I mentioned in the open Thread, when this happened to Bill Clinton in 1992, there was an investigation.
       After a three-year, $2.2 million probe, a federal independent counsel exonerated officials in the incident, saying that while some of the actions investigated were "stupid, dumb and partisan," they were not criminal.

    Do we really want to have a Congressional hearing with our tax dollars? Apparently, it is just too much temptation and not enough security. Congress is busy enough and the State Dept should just take care of this and flag certain accounts not accessible unless by a warrant or the person's approval. There is a problem but nothing really to see here unless they say someone was paid to snoop by someone else.       Over the top outrage to change the subject. The picture of Wright and Clinton didn't work.

     

    Maybe it is just me (5.00 / 3) (#26)
    by dissenter on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:54:54 PM EST
    But I so sick of the whining out of that campaign. Ya, lets go waste some more tax dollars on this stupid investigation and then raise the payroll tax on working Americans to pay for it.

    I don't know if his campaign realizes there is in fact a whining threshold that most American can take...and he has to be nearing it.

    You know what I care about this story, my passport privacy. Apparently nobody is concerned with the average person's passport security. Again, it is the me, me, me train. So sick of it.

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    If it took this incident (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:57:59 PM EST
    to get the senate interested in the underlying question of security of Govt. databases, any political spin is a worthwhile tradeoff.

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    i don't give a rip about barrack's file. (none / 0) (#50)
    by hellothere on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:50:32 PM EST
    i care about the average american. maybe our pampered, self involved whining congress critters better learn they work for us.

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    Where do I apply (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:50:19 PM EST
    to get my account "flagged' search warrant only?

    Parent
    Precisely. Apparently only the files (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:56:44 PM EST
    of certain individuals are flagged to alert as to who has accessed them.

    When I was in the DA's office, we had an entire afternoon training session devoted to prohibition on unauthorized access to criminal records, computer trail of all acacess (legal or not), and criminal penalties atteched to unauthorized access.  

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    My last border experience (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:06:33 PM EST
    returtning via AMNTRAK from the 2007 Computers, Freedom, and Privacy Conference in Montreal...

    Uniformed Immigration aqents enter the car, head straight for me. "Well Mr. Masel, that's quite the interesting history you've got. TODAY, we're not interested in the politics. we notice, however, that you've been arrested for possession of marijuana on 7 occasions..." "Eight, but none led to convictions." "Yes, we noticed that too. in any event, we'll be needing to look through your bags."

    I'm directed to take them to the cafe car. Listening to the interrogations of the other passengers who'd been singled out (none US nationals) I learned that they're not only digging through Govt. databasers, but also routinely running Google searches.

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    You are obviously one dangerous dude... (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Democratic Cat on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:08:28 PM EST
    Wow. Not that you are low profile, (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:09:35 PM EST
    but, at least here on Amtrak, INS just bothers anyone who looks vaguely Mexican.  

    Parent
    Let me guess, Albuquerque? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:11:24 PM EST
    San Diego (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:21:19 PM EST
    The only bordercrossing train in the system (none / 0) (#39)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:16:53 PM EST
    Adirondack Limited, runs MTL to NYC. I had to give my passport number to book passage. The requirement was suspended a couple weeks later due to the passport issuance backlog, but since re-instated.

    If I'm reading correctly, the contractor responsible for the breach was brought in to clean up the backlog. Authorization from the Congress, and funding, was tacked on to the Iraq Supplemental a year ago.

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    I've seen Ben. He just looks (none / 0) (#69)
    by Cream City on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:16:42 AM EST
    specifically interesting.  (Btw, you can google for photos of our past Congressional candidate, too.)

    Parent
    What if I Google image "Cream City"? (none / 0) (#71)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:31:25 AM EST
    You'll get Milwaukee (none / 0) (#73)
    by Cream City on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:46:52 AM EST
    I hope.  That's why it's my moniker.:-)

    We here just get to watch Ben from afar, a couple of counties over, as he keeps tilting for us at the windmills of power in politics and criminal law in Wisconsin, bless him.  If only our Senator Kohl had retired to run his basketball team better, huh, Ben?  And if only the political reporters in Milwaukee's press would go after Kohl the way that the sports reporters did today.  Ouch.  I don't know when I've last seen the press here go after an owner that bad, not even Bud "I Got the Job Bush Reall Wanted" Selig.

    Parent

    P.S. I found a photo of Barack Obama's (none / 0) (#72)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:32:43 AM EST
    maternal grandparents by Googling "Ben Masel" under Google images!  

    Parent
    Have you ever been convicted of a felony? (none / 0) (#57)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:53:59 PM EST
    Convicted? No, never convicted.

    Name that movie.

    Parent

    Stripes (none / 0) (#74)
    by Dawn Davenport on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:47:12 AM EST
    :)

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    At the same place (none / 0) (#28)
    by BarnBabe on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:56:59 PM EST
    I should have said everyone's but they might be updating you whatever. I do not know the process or how they access the information. Try the FISA judge, heh.

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    Bill Clinton's file (none / 0) (#25)
    by caseyOR on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:51:52 PM EST
    was investigated in an attempt by Bush I to smear him as a communist plant because of his travel while he was a Rhodes Scholar (did he go to Russia,and what did he do there?). That went a bit further up the food chain; an assistant secretary was forced out, but nobody pushed to investigate the White House.

    State Dept. uses lots of contractors now because of the new passport requirements for travel to Canada, Mexico, etc. So, there seems to be much less oversight by State. Seems the opportunity for mischief is even greater now.

    Andrea Mitchell just said (none / 0) (#44)
    by Dancing Bear on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:23:49 PM EST
    "The Clinton breach was just a simple mistake and corrected.  The Obama one still seems murky to me".

    IT ALL CAME OUT AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED (none / 0) (#46)
    by osage on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:46:56 PM EST
    WHAT A REMARKABLE COINCIDENCE?

    March 18 , 2008
    Stanley Awarded $570 Million Contract to Continue Support of Passport Program

    http://investor.stanleyassociates.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=198762&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1119161&a mp;highlight=


    Got to prop him up ... (none / 0) (#61)
    by dwmorris on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:28:47 PM EST
    So he can be slaughtered by McCain.  It's a Democratic tradition.

    this thread is about the passports (none / 0) (#66)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:39:10 PM EST
    please stay on topic, there are plenty of open threads today to discuss other issues.

    Go tell the media what you think (none / 0) (#70)
    by Cream City on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:26:29 AM EST
    of their idiocy over this, in the media mag they read (psst, it can set the agenda of the media-critique shows).

    Here's a piece of the piece, "Watergate II?" in the Columbia Journalism Review; read and join the comments there, too.

    "The item, like a jolt of caffeine after a soporifically slow news day, made big headlines last night. The Huffington Post gave it a banner headline, as did Drudge.  The cable networks picked up the story. MSNBC ran "special coverage" of the breach. Dan Abrams, on his new-and-supposedly-improved show, Verdict, considered the breach's legal implications (still kinda unclear at this point, but, still, 'this is really an amazing story,' Abrams assured us). Keith Olbermann ran a special edition of Countdown, giving the breach top billing and promising 'full coverage of all angles of this developing story this hour.'

    "But what was the story, exactly? From what we knew last night, it was that some low-level hires at State sneaked a peak into Obama's files. (Passport applications contain such information as an applicant's citizenship, age, Social Security number, and place of birth.) Which is, you know--riveting. There certainly may be more to the story, of course--this could turn out to be, if not Watergate Redux, then at least a case of someone getting caught with their hand in the oppo cookie jar. But right now, as far as we know, there isn't.

    "Which didn't stop the coverage, last night, from implying Conspiracy through Conjecture. MSNBC kept its 'Breaking News!' chryon pretty much permanently displayed throughout its evening broadcasts. . . ."


    It's the SSN... (none / 0) (#75)
    by Dawn Davenport on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:53:12 AM EST
    ...that's the problem. These days, one's social-security number is the key record that opens up all the other ones, and what's led to the most egregious invasions of privacy (and identity/credit thefts).

    Anyone armed with someone's SSN and some dough could find hundreds of records, public and private, with the plethora of online services available.

    And anyone with $50... (none / 0) (#78)
    by DudeE on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 11:08:05 AM EST
    ...could get access to virtually any person's SSN.  The idea that there's been a breach of some top secret information is a big dud.

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    What Are Contractors Doing (none / 0) (#76)
    by bob h on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 06:00:54 AM EST
    at the State Department anyway?  Is foreign policy being outsourced, too?

    I wonder how Obama's going to spin this. (none / 0) (#79)
    by BrandingIron on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:10:11 PM EST

    Chief of firm involved in the breach is an Obama adviser.

    After KO made himself look like a fool, I'm sure he's peeing in his pants now.

    More chickens roosting (none / 0) (#81)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 08:51:59 PM EST
    Hillary, Obama and McCain all voted for the misnamed "Patriot Act".

    They probably thought that THEIR privacy would be respected even if all of ours went the way of the Dodo.

    So I'm glad they each got a taste of the fascist state that they helped create.