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Hillary Again Attacks Obama Over PA Remarks

Via Politico, here are Hillary Clinton's comments today in Indiana on Obama's gaffe. Video here.

Now, like some of you may have been, I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Sen. Obama made about people in small town America. Sen. Obama's remarks are elitist, and they are out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans. Certainly not the Americans that I know — not the Americans I grew up with, not the Americans I lived with in Arkansas or represent in New York.

You know, Americans who believe in the Second Amendment believe it¹s a matter of Constitutional rights. Americans who believe in God believe it is a matter of personal faith. Americans who believe in protecting good American jobs believe it is a matter of the American Dream.

When my dad grew up it was in a working class family in Scranton. I grew up in a churchgoing family, a family that believed in the importance of living out and expressing our faith.

The people of faith I know don't "cling to" religion because they're bitter

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People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich. Our faith is the faith of our parents and our grandparents. It is a fundamental expression of who we are and what we believe.

I also disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in this country "cling to guns" and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt — and they enjoy doing so because it's an important part of their life, not because they are bitter.

And as I¹ve traveled across Indiana and I¹ve talked to a lot of people what I hear are real concerns about unfair trade practices that cost people jobs.

I think hardworking Americans are right to want to see changes in our trade laws. That¹s what I have said. That¹s what I have fought for.

I would also point out that the vast majority of working Americans reject anti-immigration rhetoric. They want reform so that we remain a nation of immigrants, but also a nation of laws that we enforce and we enforce fairly.

Americans are fair-minded and good-hearted people. We have ups and downs. We face challenges and problems. But our views are rooted in real values, and they should be respected.

Americans out across our country have born the brunt of the Bush administration¹s assault on the middle class. Contrary to what Sen. Obama says, most Americans did much better during the Clinton years than they have done during the Bush years.

If we are striving to bring people together — and I believe we should be — I don't think it helps to divide our country into one America that is enlightened and one that is not.

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    Beautiful! (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by bjorn on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:21:08 PM EST


    Hillary is divisive (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by white n az on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:28:30 PM EST
    and Obama brings everyone together...

    Rinse, lather, repeat...

    well, they sell more shampoo with that logic

    Dawning on them? (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by blogtopus on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:10:59 PM EST
    You mean her recent increases in the polling in PA right? They want it to end, and for Obama to go home in shame for running an ego campaign that threatens to take out the Dem party: He has no experience, he has no new messages (that haven't been used hundreds of times before), he seems to feel entitled to the presidency and the media encourages it. He's an empty suit with a great voice.

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    A reverse NH is a wild pipedream (none / 0) (#57)
    by tree on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 11:32:01 AM EST
    but hey, everybody has a dream.

    As for divisiveness, if it bothers you so, I respectfully suggest you follow Gandhi's advice and "Be the change you wish to see." Taking digs at others by comparing them to children with temper tantrums is divisive.

     Personally I find hypocrisy to be a bigger problem. Obama supporters don't seem to mind being divisive, they just don't like what they perceive as divisiveness when they see it from Clinton supporters.  And apparently, what the O's see as divisive is C's not falling in line like good little soldiers behind a candidate they don't believe in.

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    if you mean... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by white n az on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:16:46 PM EST
    that comments like these are likely to push her into a higher double digit victory than anticipated...you may be right.

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    Amen bother! (none / 0) (#15)
    by OxyCon on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:52:46 PM EST
    Shame on Hillary for attacking the Unity Pony!
    Besides, everything Obama says is really true!
    Damned bitter gun nutz and bitter Jeezus freaks!

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    Neither does Obama (none / 0) (#37)
    by felizarte on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:59:57 PM EST
    because half of the voters are for Hillary more or less and there JUST NO WAY IN THE WORLD FOR ANYONE TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

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    Home run, bases loaded. (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by oldpro on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:32:21 PM EST
    Yep.

    She hit this one out of the park.

    Manna from up there (none / 0) (#30)
    by felizarte on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:46:13 PM EST
    with perfect timing: (1) RezkoGate (2) NaftaGate (3)MonsterGate  (4)WrightGate  (5) I don't have a name for this one--yet but it reminds me of the last Kerry Gaffe/joke something to the effect that the ". . . stupid ones . . . end up in Iraq." It was the gaffe that made him drop out of the 2008 campaign.  Perhaps someoine has a more precise quotation.  

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    TWP-gate (none / 0) (#43)
    by waldenpond on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 03:05:10 PM EST
    typical white people-gate or stereotype-gate, stoopid-gate, redneck-gate, ego-gate, ... I like arugula-gate myself.

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    Ruralgate? (none / 0) (#47)
    by oldpro on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 03:45:14 PM EST
    I like bittergate, tho....

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    Bittergte wins! (none / 0) (#51)
    by jeffhas on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:20:17 PM EST
    Yes! Yes! (none / 0) (#38)
    by felizarte on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 02:03:07 PM EST
    Sooooooo proud of her!!
    Her poise under pressure/attack/jeering is just incredible--for any gender.

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    Here's the (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by sas on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:40:11 PM EST
    thing....

    She's right.  She gets it. These people had faith and gun/hunting long before times went bad.  They don't need him to say they turn to religion and guns as a result of job loss.  It minimizes their values.

    These people want universal health care, and they don't want their Social Security privatized (like an Obama advisor favors).  They are not, as a whole, racist, and they are not stupid.

    It's a way of life that Obama doesn't understand.

    This is his John Kerry windsurfing moment.  

    Yes similar theme of elitism (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by diplomatic on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:45:37 PM EST
    but the actual comments are quite worse than anything Kerry ever said.  Obama psychoanalyzed millions of people, not just in Pennsylvania but across the Midwest and he did it in front of millionaires in San Francisco.

    An event he wanted to be as secretive as possible.  "And he almost got away with it, were it not for those pesky kids with tape recorders blogging for Huffington Post.  Scoobie!!!!"

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    She rocked (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Truth Partisan on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:51:34 PM EST
    For many of us, it is personal.

    For me, this comment (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Kathy on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:14:06 PM EST
    just plays into Obama's fundamental lack of understanding of the real America.  Last I checked, less than ten American cities had more than a million people in them.  This leaves a lot of us living in what are considered small towns.  As Clinton said, these values were held long before Bush all but ruined this country.  If people are 'clinging' to them now, it is because they seek the comfort of the familiar, of the uplifting, of the common bonds of community, when they are at risk.  These are natural nesting instincts that go back to the first klan of man.

    Maybe all those years on the mean streets of Jakarta didn't help Obama so much after all.

    Terrific stuff (5.00 / 3) (#29)
    by davnee on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:32:23 PM EST
    The home run line for me is:"People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich."  I think the worst part of Obama's whole moronic statement is that he impugned people's faith.  He suggested their faith was a product of their dissatisfaction with life.  Has he ever spent more than five minutes in small town America?  Can he be this clueless?

    And if one more Obamabot argues 'but he's right,' I'll scream.  I'm an academic.  So I've done the populist critique.  But like I said, I'm an academic.  I'm not running for president.  I'm not asking to be people's leader.  I'm not asking for people's votes and their trust.  I'm not asking to speak for them on the world stage and to be given the honor and duty of fighting for them, their interests, at home and abroad.  And who would ever want to entrust all that in a man that thinks they are provincial rubes?  Obama wasn't nobly speaking a hard truth to his friends in rural and small town America, he was, in the company of the beautiful people, looking down his nose at salt of the earth America.  That ain't good when it comes time to count votes.

    So let's see what the defenders of (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Florida Resident on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:52:27 PM EST
    Obama say is; that what he said was true and he was brave for saying it.

    Now since where I live does not even qualify as a town and the nearest city has less than 7,000 people in it, I guess that I must be one of those he was talking about,  I mean I own guns,  I go to church..... Of course not against NAFTA per se but then heck we can't all be perfect examples.  
    Unfortunately for him I am not poor (Family Income high enough to have to pay minimum tax) nor did I change my values because I'm clinging to something, my values have been consistent most of my life.
    But he did manage to sound insulting to many of my Republican friends who he is so good at attracting.(snark)

    She's spot on. Great statement. (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by vicsan on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 02:24:13 PM EST
    I admire smart, strong women.:)

    The last sentence (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by kayla on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 02:58:59 PM EST
    is superb.  I hope it makes it to the papers.

    too long (4.00 / 2) (#2)
    by Foxx on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:26:25 PM EST
    She needs to make the basic point in about 1/10 of the words.

    Perhaps not :) (none / 0) (#8)
    by nycstray on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:36:01 PM EST
    I thought it worked in well and added a nice contrast between the 2. She prob does have a short version for questions from the press, but on the stump, it adds some more earthiness. Maybe it's because I was raised on Mid-western values (in CA, lol!~). My parents are both from Illinois.

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    I think it was perfect (none / 0) (#10)
    by diplomatic on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:39:34 PM EST
    These prepared remarks by Hillary are meant for the Sunday newspapers.

    She gives them many juicy and strong quotes to choose from.  Keeps the story moving forward.

    Over the next few days she will flesh out the rhetoric and cover all the bases.

    The Obama gaffe is unprecedented.  Nothing Kerry ever said comes close.

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    Pretty, Condescending Stuff (none / 0) (#3)
    by CodeNameLoonie on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:27:14 PM EST
    Not to worry. Some of us can face the fact that some people are bitter and resentful. Don't need some nostalgia to sugar-coat it either.

    You want to change things, best to stare down the ugliest facts first. You want to change very little, make sure you make people feel everything is secretly just fine.

    HRC may prove to be the better demagogue of the two. In so doing, she may yet become the more electable one.

    One can (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by FlaDemFem on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:34:34 PM EST
    face the fact that some people are bitter and resentful.
    without demeaning people in the process. Obama's remarks were patronizing to say the least, and actually insulting if you live in a small town in PA. And coming from someone who doesn't have to worry about where the next paycheck is coming from speaking to a bunch of rich people, it is appalling. Obama's problem is his attitude. He comes across as thinking he is so much better than anyone in the room. Looking down your nose at people isn't the way to get them to vote for you.

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    He spoke bluntly. (none / 0) (#28)
    by CodeNameLoonie on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:31:48 PM EST
    No doubt about it. Unusual? Yes. Insulting? Hardly.

    I guess some prefer to be patted on the head and told nobody is really, really angry. Nobody's fundamental, good-hearted values have been seriously affected by losing their jobs and watching their communities collapse for years on end, right?

    We're all just hardy little optimists, waiting for a pied piper to play our favorite tune and walk us around in circles for a few more years. Thanks, but no thanks.

    At this point, I'll take blunt, risky, and yes, perhaps even impolitic words, over yet another placebo.

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    People don't want a pat on the head.. (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by FlaDemFem on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:50:38 PM EST
    they want a pat on the back and a helping hand in fixing the situation. Hillary has actual programs and policies to talk about. Obama has Hope. Which may help him, after all, it did wonders for Bill Clinton. :)

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    I think the arrogance is showing n/t (none / 0) (#50)
    by hairspray on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 03:54:31 PM EST
    Not a fact (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by kayla on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 02:52:52 PM EST
    This "but it's true!" bs is killing me.  Of course there's truth in sterotypes, or else they wouldn't be sterotypes.  The reason why sterotypes are insulting is because it ignores the importance of the individual.  Sure there are small town Americans who "cling" to relgion or guns or whatever, but so does some big city urbanites.  That's the problem with the statement.  It's a fact for some people.

    Small town people are complex.  Americans are complex.  Humans are complex.  We're complex even if you generalize us and lump us into certain cultural, gegraphical, gender specific, or racial groups.  His statement was just oversimple.  There's too many examples of big city people who cling to religion out of bitterness and too many small town people who don't.

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    Obama gave her a pass (1.00 / 1) (#13)
    by MKS on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:51:08 PM EST
    on Tuzla....And yet she blasts Obama relentlessly over his misstatement.....I find her comments here insincere....I do not think this makes her more electable....

    Watch the audience, they do not cheer when she is knifing Obama, only when she talks of a good economy.  She may run down Obama but it will hurt her too.

    This comment of hers was the last straw for me....I will not vote for her and would vote for McCain if need be.

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    He Didn't Need To Give Her A Pass (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by Blue Jean on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:54:16 PM EST
    He had the whole mediaocracy and the blogosphere to jump on her Tuzla comment for him.

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    If he can't defend the things he says (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by badger on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:06:20 PM EST
    a) he shouldn't say them
    b) he should find a new line of work.

    Apparently Obama supporters now don't just oppose letting people vote, they're freaked out because people actually want to debate things their candidate says - somebody might dare to disagree.

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    Actually (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by nell on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:07:00 PM EST
    he did not give her a pass. I heard several reporters say that his campaign was hammering this behind the scenes to change the story and had been providing the initial push for the media to cover the story...

    They didn't need to give her a pass, and in fact, they did not give her a pass.

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    Last straws (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by blogtopus on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:07:28 PM EST
    Spare us the crocodile tears, MKS. She hammered him, and rightly so. He has tried to dodge making a real apology for the past couple days, and has been trying to have it both ways. Too bad, so sad.

    If he apologized, THEN Hillary's attacks would constitute 'kicking a man when he's down.' But for now she's just 'holding his feet to the fire', which is completely and totally fair.

    She's also defending her right to speak out and get heard for people who want to vote for her; the media and Obama would rather she shut the hell up. Sorry, that may work in other countries but not America.

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    MKS, McCain is "hammering" him, too (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Cream City on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:52:09 PM EST
    and do you have a problem with that?  Do you think others do?  I'd be interested in your take.

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    Hillary "hammering" people (none / 0) (#26)
    by MKS on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:26:57 PM EST
    That is the problem....That really is not persuasive to very many people.

    I am reasonably good barometer for a significant block of voters....I am not a Democrat and never have been....I am a registered Independent and usually vote for Democrats.....I have a long red state pedigree, was a registered Republican for many years, and don't buy what the Clintons are trying to sell.   This year was the first year that I considered actually changing my registration....We'll see.

    Hillary is just pandering....and she is on both sides of the trade issue, sharing in Bill's money for pushing trade deals.  I am at present ambivalent about trade but much more concerned about politicians playing both sides....

    I will vote on character because I believe that any 12 point plan touted during a campaign will wilt and get shelved (is basically a pander) and has no bearing on issues that are yet to be seen.

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    And you don't think this goes to O's Character? (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by felizarte on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:51:32 PM EST
    to be sure, his message was from the heart.  The message is insensitive, that makes the originator of the message even perhaps more insensitive.  I really do not know what character traits you are referring to.  

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    And I do want Hillary to HAMMER (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by felizarte on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:53:57 PM EST
    the problems that George W. worked into the American system that is causing hardship to many Americans.

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    Wait a minute (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by waldenpond on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 03:10:18 PM EST
    What do you mean you won't vote for her?  I thought there was no way she could get the nomination?  The math, the numbers.....

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    Didn't his campaign (none / 0) (#54)
    by Marvin42 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 11:28:06 PM EST
    Start sending around the video of her on that trip? That was giving her a break?

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    To say some people are bitter (none / 0) (#7)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:35:28 PM EST
    is fine.  To say a whole class of people is better is 'stereotyping'.

    When you do this to a class that is obviously at a lower economic level than your own, you are an elitist.

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    Sorry (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:36:05 PM EST
    I meant bitter, not better.

    "To say a whole class of people is bitter

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    The Indiana GOP (none / 0) (#21)
    by nell on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:09:46 PM EST
    is milking his for all it is worth:

    http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp?S=8156882&nav=menu32_2

    And this could become problematic for Obama backers in a very red state like Indiana IF the public responds badly, but it is unclear thus far.

    110 million dollars (none / 0) (#25)
    by dem08 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:18:07 PM EST
    is a lot of money.

    At first, however, I thought Obama's sin of stating the truth would really hurt HIM. I really did think that if Hillary Blogs like Talk Left, aided by Fox and the right wing blogs could make this clip so familiar to Americans that they would think Obama=elitist snob.

    Obama's speech in Indiana today, which I viewed on the Washington Post The Fix, made me think Obama really is a great politician. He sounded like he HEARD the underlying rage of people stuck in dead end jobs and was fighting for them.

    Hillary's Working Class Roots, as effective as they are for a Wellsley Valedictorian who was a Corporate Lawyer, (Yes! like Michelle Obama), seem somewhat inauthentic now. Maybe the Multi-millionaire status of The Clinton's makes her voice sound shallow.

    I do think this gaffe, and too bad for you Hillary backers there is not video, is Hillary's best bet along with Pastor Wright at derailing Obama. So I hope you are able to keep it alive.

    I think Obama's follow-up has been masterful politically, but I don't have a blog, I am a former Clinton supporter, and I teach English, so what do I know.

    I am not even from a small town, but (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by MarkL on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:30:15 PM EST
    the insistence that Obama was telling the "truth" in his horrendous gaffe is pissing me off, by proxy.
    Obama has no clue what he's talking about.
    He has a better chance of winning a bowling tournament in PA than avoiding slaughter in the primary, after his horrible, elitist, incoherent, MISTAKEN remarks.

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    Many voters identify with the Clinton roots (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Manuel on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:51:30 PM EST
    Obama's statements are a problem because they remind the voters that he views them from an outsider's perspective.  The Clinton's current wealth status won't affect that feeling.  

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    You (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by nell on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 03:46:40 PM EST
    are missing what was so offensive about the statement. I grew up in a small town in Indiana and the area has been hard hit by steel plants closing. Are people frustrated? Yes. That part of what he said was true, though I thought bitter was a poor word choice and condescending.

    The part that was really offensive is that he equated this bitterness to the reasons that people in these communities are religious, love their guns, and dislike immigrants. My neighbors were religious long before times got hard, their faith is a constant. My neighbors had their guns long before times got hard, and they will continue to hunt and do whatever else they do with their guns. And my neighbors may be a lot of things, but they are not anti-immigrant. They welcome my immigrant family with open arms and have never made us feel like outsiders. Now I don't doubt that in some places there are some people who turn to religion, guns, and hatred of others as an antidote to their own frustrations, but it is wrong for a president to cast all working class Americans from small towns in this light. And I mean, honestly, you don't think those same feelings exist in big cities? Just listen to Senator Obama's pastor of 20 years - I would say he is plenty bitter. You think people in big cities don't carry guns out of bitterness? Yes, they do.

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    Can't you read? (none / 0) (#53)
    by Ardie on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 11:14:24 PM EST
    Can't you read? Obama never implied that your ilk turned to religion and guns after Clinton's and Bush's neoliberalism policies (i.e., Milton Firedman = disaster capitalism) sent American jobs to the Chicoms and elsewhere.

    Obama said: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

    So logically, to cling to guns and Jesus, both guns and Jesus must have been there previously...right?

    So now tell us, how are guns and Jesus, not to mention nativism, working to restore America's good jobs?  By the way I can't think of two more irrational refuges, in the face of jobs losses, than guns and Jesus. If that is all Mr & Mrs. Bag-o-donuts have..they're doomed.  

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    I don't think that response (none / 0) (#55)
    by waldenpond on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:08:50 AM EST
    would work for Obama....

    [By the way I can't think of two more irrational refuges, in the face of jobs losses, than guns and Jesus. If that is all Mr & Mrs. Bag-o-donuts have..they're doomed.]

    Tell him to go ahead and try that and let us know how it goes.

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    Clinton has won you over... (none / 0) (#59)
    by rayray21 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 05:40:37 PM EST
    That is what the media, the Clintons and the McCain camps want you to believe...Like Bill Clinton said, "We are Proud people..." yes we are but some of us are bitter and frustrated of how our country is run.  How is it possible that our government is so out of touch with the people; did we fall asleep and all the sudden woke up in the middle of this nightmare?  It's not just small town America that suffers here, we all do.  Watch the debate tonight, maybe Hillary will understand then the words that she has twisted into something so nasty and untrue....well she is used to lying with a straight face so this should be a walk in the park for her.

    Hillary knows that she twisted the bitter remark to suite her next attack.  In hard times we do look for refuge in what relaxes us, makes us safe.  For some that could be religion, for others it could be choosing a candidate based on his gun policy or any other policy for that matter and yes...when we see our jobs go overseas or see an import come in and take your job from under you because its more cost effective for the company's bottom line...yes we all get frustrated and a little bitter and hopeless because it seems like we cannot do anything to avoid this trauma on our daily lives, on our dreams that we have worked so hard for.  Yes, we get bitter and angry but we roll on because that is who we are.  We need to fix this country, fix this government and take charge of it again, Obama is the only one of the 3 left that can do this.  McCain is more Bush and Hillary is too tied up in special interests groups to really do anything, she will just represent corporate America.  Haven't you noticed that even the media plays more of what Obama said than videos where he explains his stance?  Think about that, and try to be as honest as possible and you know that corp. America controls that too....So what are we going to do about it?

    Vote Obama 08 for a real chance at real change...people do not blind yourselves when it really counts, we need everyone...every single person counts.

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    there's an audio clip (none / 0) (#40)
    by diplomatic on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 02:27:10 PM EST
    and these hard working Americans drive to work, listening to radio. Plenty of time before April 22 to hear it.

    nuff said.  

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    Tempest (none / 0) (#52)
    by Ardie on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 09:40:13 PM EST
    This could be the perfect storm for a mighty tempest in a teacup.  If enough people decontextualize Senator Obama's observations together with his volte face clarification, surely this will enhance Hillary's fulsome reputation for vanity, pettiness, and exaggeration, traits, incidentally, admired by Republicans.

    WOW....I hope we are not falling for this one (none / 0) (#58)
    by rayray21 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 03:48:37 PM EST
    WOW!!! the press will do anything to sell a story...amazing, you should be ashamed of calling yourselves the press......People, I don't know about everyone else but losing jobs to overseas companies or to local U.S. companies who want to make 10 billion dollars of profit instead of 7 billion and run OUR countries unemployment rates sky high by moving their offices overseas, does frustrate and does make people bitter.  If anything, McCain and Hillary, if they are so in touch with the people like they say they are, they should recognize this as a true statement of how we the people feel or maybe they should leave their millions and come live my life for change.  Bitterness is not part of our fundamental values like they are saying Obama stated, but a byproduct of how this government has been run and how their dumb decisions affect us all.  The big corporations have taken away the government from the people and now it's time to take it back and keep a level balance which has not existed for many decades...YES, INCLUDING THE CLINTON YEARS...which were good but could have been a lot better, it could have left us setup for progress instead of faulty trade deals that only benefit corp. America and leaves the people at the mercy of their will.

    People let's take back our government, NOW IS THE TIME.....cast your vote for true change.  Even Lou Dobbs can agree that out of the 3 left in the race, Obama is the best chance at getting government to work for the people again and not the rich and definitely not a liar.

    Funny how the Clinton campaign has played with the words of Obama and turned it into something they very well know is not true.  He has clarified his stance since and she apparently misses his true message.  I guess when your drowning you will try anything to stay afloat.  Yes we are frustrated, sometimes even bitter and disturbed as we see our own government forget that we even exist until its election time....then all the sudden we are 1# priority.  We need a true change candidate and the only one that has stated this from the beginning and Clinton caught on and even McCain has caught the "Wave of Change" because this is what we truly want and need, not a play on words.  The only candidate that can make the change and has spoken of change from the get go is Obama and he will and we will hold him accountable.

    Rayray....independent America...think free, be free.